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I don't know if it is psychological, but I find it easier to turn left to right than right to left - does that make sense?!
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jb1970, I presume you're right footed.
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Yes, we all have one side of our bodies stonger than the other. One side for jumping off(Stronger) and one side for landing on(adaptive). The over/under use of this will have an effect on your skiing. The problem here is most often found in the hip joint. Maybe see a physio and check there is no blockege. Twisted Evil
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jb1970, have you had your boots fitted (more than just getting a shop selling you a set of insoles)?

(any half-decent boot fitter would know to start off by asking you questions about your boots before coming out with "answers") rolling eyes Twisted Evil
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jb1970, yeh, that's normal if you mono-ski (water) you can get asymetric skis to counter the effect.
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jb1970, Could be and alignment issue

Bodies aren't symmetrical things and its quite possible due to slight differences in joint alignment both skis don't sit on the snow at the same angle. The main tool for adjusting this are the canting adjusters either single or dual on your boots, sadly a lot of shops don't make any attempt to set the cant when you they sell you boots and I spent 2 years falling off drag lifts because of it.

Interesting and relatively easy test (got it from a book).
Stand in your skis, (assuming you have your own) on a soft foam mat in your normal skiing stance. The foam allows the skis to take up their natural angle. They should be flat and level or slightly on the inside edge. To do the complete job measure the angles using small levels. You can make corrections with the canting adjuster on the cuff of the boot.

I should poit out before the flame starts that if you need to make large adjustments you may have bigger alignment problems than a simple cuff adjustment can cure and should seek more expert help,
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Even Bode Miller has admitted he turns better one way than the other. Powder 8 tracks from professional powder skiers are asymetric. Most skiing mistakes happen as a result of your weak side so this is the side to work on.

Of course if there is a massive difference then there could be something wrong with your equipment, your aligment and/or your technique.

Try to find a ski instructor who understands aligment issues and book a lesson with him/her.
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Wear The Fox Hat wrote:
jb1970, have you had your boots fitted (more than just getting a shop selling you a set of insoles)?

(any half-decent boot fitter would know to start off by asking you questions about your boots before coming out with "answers") rolling eyes Twisted Evil


Yeah, send me x-rays of your feet so i can examine their bone density and progresive structuring. A tissue sample would be a help to so i can anylise your pressure resistance and circulation. Also a bi-opsy of tendon mass and ligiment elastisity should help me with remote analiysis. Otherwise, maybe to descuss this on the webb is a little subjective, really too complex, INMO, to speak having never had your feet between my hands. Otherwise please read my post above. Twisted Evil
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jb1970, I think you are just normal, unless turning one way is particulary weaker than the other, then no problem just be aware and work on it improve.
Show me someone who skis symmetrically?
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Just back from Champoluc (Monterosa, Aoste, Italy) and we had a highly entertaining afternoon teaching (?) ourselves telemarking yesterday. All of us had good sides and bad sides. One of those things I guess. Quite normal to turn better to one side rather than the other.
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David Murdoch, taught yourself? Sounds like fun to me, follows my reasoning that if i can ski well, therefore i can snowboard, monoski and telemark wink
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Dunk, worked for monoskis and teles, did NOT work (for me anyway) for snowboarding. Sad

Was a lot of fun. Still not convinced we weren't just alpine turning in a tele position!
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jb1970, nearly everyone has a natural body dynamic bias . . . i.e. which foot did you use when sliding across an icy playground as a nipper, which foot do you kick with . . . etc.? It's down to the lump between your ears to find a way to balance them . . . or not wink
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Masque, fine up to a point. but a fairly typical statement of someone who has a reletively neutral alignment and really can't understand what all the fuss is about because they can pretty get into any hardware and find themselves nicely set up from the word go because of the way they're constructed, unfortunatley we're not all in that middle section of the distribution curve of body type..

I'm not saying jb1970 has any real problems beyond the normal slightly favouring of one side but in principal, continually compensating for a problem that can be relatively easily dialled out will make the learning process tougher and ultimately limit what you can achieve.
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rich, Interesting thought, though I have some small experience of working with physiological asymmetric people and as a result of injury, I've become one myself. I'll run with the argument that the first part of dealing with this issue is undertaken between the ears. Both as a matter of confidence and the need to understand the practical issues involved in your personal condition whether it's just an unconscious bias or asymmetry needing prosthetic stabilisation.
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rich, As both myself and Masque, have stated we are all asysmmetric, however, yes in terms of skiing it is prefered not to be like this. From the feet up we can iron out the bio-mechanical cracks first with orthotics. Compensation can be made here to better align the skier. From here we adjust cuff alignment and finally binding alignment. For us, in resort, this is too carried out with a physio and kinesiotherapist and between us three we can hopefully bring along better balance and with it closer symmetry. Twisted Evil
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Its just a shame I didn't have this converation about 10years ago, could've prevented a lot of pain and frustration.
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rich, Me too, i have a blocked right hip which has caused problems with my knee and strengthens my turning left.. I tried for years to correct this with my orthotics, only to discover through phisio my femur is mal-formed and requires constant exercise. Do i keep up with the exercises? Should perhaps do more. They say the 'most in debt are the best to ask for financial advice'. Twisted Evil
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SMALLZOOKEEPER wrote:
rich, As both myself and Masque, have stated we are all asysmmetric, however, yes in terms of skiing it is prefered not to be like this. From the feet up we can iron out the bio-mechanical cracks first with orthotics. Compensation can be made here to better align the skier. From here we adjust cuff alignment and finally binding alignment. For us, in resort, this is too carried out with a physio and kinesiotherapist and between us three we can hopefully bring along better balance and with it closer symmetry. Twisted Evil


Thank you for repeating what I said earlier.
It's a shame that the first time I said it, you chose to turn it round and attack me for making the post.
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Foxy, your a cock. Sorry can't be bothered. Twisted Evil
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jb1970, You don't have such a big bias as to be a problem. Just normal preference - work harder on your weak side, and it will improve - I definitely turn better on my left leg than my right - as so many have said - it's just normal.
BTW everyone - he really doesn't have a monstrous problem!!
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