 Poster: A snowHead
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@billy not a boy, I would not wish to comment further in a public domain.
Let's see what happens next, still twenty days before court of sessions.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Dunk wrote: |
| @billy not a boy, I would not wish to comment further in a public domain. |
Forever the diplomat eh Dunk, I understand though if it's personal stuff
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| Let's see what happens next, still twenty days before court of sessions. |
... and nicely brought back on topic.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@mozwold, (edit) Gallic Shrug. 
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| mozwold wrote: |
@halfhand,
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Nice attempt at derailing the subject of the thread mozwold but ultimately a failure.
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Nothing of the sort, and frankly I couldn't care less so you can get as up your self as you like.
I'm not a member of BASI, and I wouldn't know Simon Butler from Adam.
From my point of view I see (some) members of each faction that are quite happy hurling accusations at each other, but then have a hissy fit when someone questions your morals.
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What faction am I in? Just so I know.
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19 days to go now 
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| Dunk wrote: |
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Can hardly control my apathy.
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I see Simon Butler got silver in the FIS World Masters Super-G in Chile this week. I wonder if the BASI PR machine will go into overdrive, promoting the prowess of a BASI-qualified instructor.
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@laundryman, There will probably be protests to FIS that he is not entitled to a race licence because he doesn't tie his shoelaces in an approved knot or some similar new code of conduct being concocted. That said he might be permitted to operate in Bulgaria like L1,2,&3.(probably have to wear slip ons though).
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Does that qualify him for a pass on the Eurotest ?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@under a new name, yep.
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| deerman wrote: |
| Does that qualify him for a pass on the Eurotest ? |
Nope.
under a new name, medals are awarded within the 5 year age groups.
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You know it makes sense.
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Hmm. FIS website now has the Chile results with the following entry for Simon Butler.
20-09-2015 La Parva CHI FIS Masters Cup Slalom 8
19-09-2015 La Parva CHI FIS Masters Cup Giant Slalom DNF
It looks like someone is having their leg pulled.
Or is this that he got the medal for his age group? Which is still good going.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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olderscot, There were races in Valle Nevado too.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@rjs, aha, now I understand. Good for him.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@olderscot, or he was competing in a Super G race  Do the skis on the podium look like GS or SL skis
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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There were races in Valle Nevado too.
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Good point. I did miss the Valle Nevado results.
18-09-2015 Valle Nevado (CHI) CHI FIS Masters Cup Super G 6
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or he was competing in a Super G race Do the skis on the podium look like GS or SL skis
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You're right. I'm not having a good day am I? Long skis = one of the speed events. I'm genuinely impressed that you expected me to have noticed that.
Mike
Note to self: Must do better, check my facts, be less cynical and think twice before posting. (although this is the Snowheads forum...)
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Very good for him.
Do many people keep up their racing skills like this past 50? I am wracking my brain for other examples.
Many people are impressed. Some may secretly be a little ashamed, when they think about how little ski racing they do to keep up their safety skills once qualified.
Oh wait, they don't actually have to continue racing, because racing has little to do with safety.
It's difficult to remember sometimes. Silly me.
This is why I think it is very good for him.
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| Malaise Meleze wrote: |
Oh wait, they don't actually have to continue racing, because racing has little to do with safety. |
The majority of instructors pass their ET in their 30's. If they had to repass in their 40th, 50th & 60th year the test would be scrapped within a day 
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just as well then, that it has nothing to do with safety.
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majority of instructors pass their ET in their 30's.
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20's
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speed098, People do just Masters races for fun.
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…including ex World Cup and Europa Cup racers. Nothing wrong with fun, of course, but it's not high on the protectionists producer-centric agenda.
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@speed098, I think this whole speed test thing is a load of nonsense. A more sensible test would be check the instructors ability to ski & make safety related decisions after four beers + four Willi ( for a start ).
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Steilhang,
Shirley an instructor couldn't afford four beers in France 
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@musher, paid for by the tester of course.
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You know it makes sense.
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don't call me Shirley.......
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Steilhang wrote: |
| @speed098, I think this whole speed test thing is a load of nonsense. A more sensible test would be check the instructors ability to ski & make safety related decisions after four beers + four Willi ( for a start ). |
My comment was a bit of a "P" take on the ET, TT as any form of test of ability to be a good ski instructor for all but the very best skiers out there. I would hope SB would show a clean pair of heels on both runs to a certain BASI board member thus showing up the whole ethos of a speed test.
@rjs,
And I did know that ex WC and Europa cup racers do compete in the masters not sure how many SB has raced against or beat but the point is it is a very respectable race series and should be a clear indication of someone's skiing ability, and over a period of time show better consistency of that ability than the ET does.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| musher wrote: |
@Steilhang,
Shirley an instructor couldn't hold four beers in France |
FIFY
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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My comment was a bit of a "P" take on the ET, TT as any form of test of ability to be a good ski instructor for all but the very best skiers out there.
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Are skiing 'safety' speed tests like VW's emissions tests?
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Yes, in that "opening the bonnet" tends to slow you down.
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No-one ski's wearing a bonnet
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The week of reckoning is upon us, will there be a last minute deal? 
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Last minute deal? I suspect not unless BASI are prepared to offer a lot of money both by way of compensation and also legal costs which will have racked up at an amazing rate both for Simon and for themselves. This is an unholy mess which should never have happened. Oh the futility of egos and vested interests
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If this outcome is in favor of Simon, could BASI members sue the board of directors?
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interesting to read the statement by BASI's solicitors on page 67 of the Annual Report, they spend more ink arguing the size of the settlement as opposed to whether there is a case to answer to.
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