 Poster: A snowHead
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Replacing my STOLEN DPS Wailer 112 190 Hybrids, like for like.
I have skied on Soul 7 and Squad 7 since and know I want to repeat EXACTLY my DPS set up.
Good news is I can get replacements on insurance - bad news is there is no more UK stock of DPS Wailer 112 Hybrid 190... There are 190 Pure in stock but they are 30% more expensive than the Hybrids and no deals are being done on them because there are, apparently, no changes planned for the Pures for next season. I find that hard to believe but it would be nigh on impossible to verify.
My fear is that the Pures which are stiffer and lighter will feel more skittish whereas I was entirely comfortable with the Hybrid feel.
Anybody out there with experience of skiing both Hybrids and Pures? Feedback?
Also - be on the keen look-out for a pair of DPS Wailers 112 Hybrid with Beast 16s (2014 silver heels and 2015 gold toe pieces)...
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Search on TGR for Marshal Olsen's comments on Hybrid vs Pure
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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All my DPS are/skis have been Pure's so can't comment personally on the Hybrid. In general Pure's for touring/powder, and Hybrid for All Mountain.
I do know that the Wailer 112RP Pure has changed every year for the last 4 years, with last year being Pure 3 construction, and this year being RP2 with lower rise tip and tail rocker. I have not really being following the changes to the Hybrid skis, so don't know how they have been changing.
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I had pure wailers and hybrid lotus120s. While it's hard to do a direct comparison, my take was that I preferred the hybrid construction most of the time. Pure was nice for touring and blower (not alps!) pow, but just too much feedback through the ski for heavier snow, crud etc...
I'd only go pure for a ski that was for touring in guaranteed soft snow. For any significant resort use I'd stick with the hybrid.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@clarky999, That was on point ;o) Thanks. I like the way MO declares his interest. Sounds like the Pures will be more down my street and stop me from getting lazy - Captain Crud to the fore: making you work for your turns.
@PowderAdict, Hybrids are changing this year cos they are "on sale" but not by much whereas there is no movement at all on the Pure3. They're holding onto 14/15 stock for 15/16 - else, I am being misled. As if...
I'm leaning towards the Pures but I can't lean towards the Hybrids because there aren't any left FFS.
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Footworks in Chamonix had them all in stock, plus offering a 20% discount if you had bindings and skins.
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I have the Cassiar 95s in pure. I like them, but they are very light and off piste, need to be driven hard to stay on line. On piste, extraordinarily fast in a straight line or big to medium turns, but short turns and bumps are a challenge as they are very stiff and springy, and the rebound on them is a bit hectic. Very sensitive to inputs, and pretty delicate on piste: these, completely conversely to how you have to ski them off piste, require a fine touch. Tiring for the whole day, tonnes of feedback all the time. Unforgiving of fast direction changes/fast turn shape variations at high speeds unless you are willing to dig in the edges and pivot them, or really get down and push your feet into the mountain and force them to behave.
That said, the taut carbon construction and stiffness mean that they are very forgiving of swift balance changes for and aft: stay back too long though and they chatter, the stiff tails dig in and run away with you. The construction definitely leads to unique handling characteristics.
I think as others have said, for versatility, the hybrid construction would be better. These are unbelievably light though - the spring in them and low swing weight means getting them in the air and doing silly things is easy. And at very high speeds in long arcing turns, that carbon construction really seems to be very different - you feel as if you are skimming over the snow, but completely dialled in.
Weird skis. I like them, but don't love them all the time.
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