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Questions about setting bindings

 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi folks,

I'm new to the site, so first of all.. Hello Smile I'm a new skier and have just took delivery of my second pair of skis (the bindings in the first pair were too small for my boots). The new skis are Salomon Crossmax 08 with Salomon S810 bindings. I have set the bindings up to what I believe are the correct settings - the heel of the boot drops in and sits against the lower heel nicely. I have had to move the heel binding quite far back though and just want to make sure they're not too far back, i.e going to fall off whilst skiing!






Appreciate your help, thanks.
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Hard to tell from the photos but there's an arrow on the adjustment tab at the back - this must be within the scribed area to maintain correct forward pressure. Have you checked the front end too - need to make sure there is the correct clearance under the toe of the boot...
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I've highlighted the arrowhead here - there should be corresponding "grooves" either side which it should sit within when the boot is in the binding.

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Thanks Dashed, does this image make it easier to see the "grooves"?





The arrows look to be sitting at the very back of the rails to me.

I have adjusted the heigh of the front binding if that's what you mean? I real it should be 0.5mm or just touching the bottom of the binding (AFD?), so I've adjusted it so it's just touching and no more. I've also adjusted the toe cup width so that both side are just touching the boots.
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That's looks too tight to me - arrow should sit within the notched out area (sorry - notched rather than grooves on that model) Sad
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Sorry that's too loose not too tight.
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Mt feet are only a size 10 why does nothing fit Sad So would it be dangerous to ski like that? I could maybe push it forward one notch but the boot wouldn't sit down as easily and would need a gentle push to sit on the lower heel.
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Have you adjusted the front binding there is a screw at the front very low down ( beneath the din setting screw ) If the front binding is set pretty far back then you will max out at the back with a size 10 boot but if set to max ( the furthest forward ) it should give more than enough safe clearance.

From the position in the pics it looks like the heel unit will be free sliding out of the rear as the clip will not engage into the holes that lock it in place.
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speed098 wrote:
Have you adjusted the front binding there is a screw at the front very low down ( beneath the din setting screw ) If the front binding is set pretty far back then you will max out at the back with a size 10 boot but if set to max ( the furthest forward ) it should give more than enough safe clearance.

From the position in the pics it looks like the heel unit will be free sliding out of the rear as the clip will not engage into the holes that lock it in place.


There doesn't seem to be another screw on the front of the toe binding other than the DIN setting. There is a screw on the side for adjusting the toe width and one on top for adjusting the toe height. Maybe the S810 toe binding doesn't move forward?


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@StevenF,

Not sure I have pilot S912Ti bindings on a set of skis the screw I mention is on the front directly below the din screw but on the base part of the binding. I will try and find some info out but if you can not adjust the front binding like on the 912 then you may need someone like spyderjon to help you out. Do you have a few images of the front binding ? One from directly in front and one looking down into the toe piece from behind it.

Does the front binding look like this ?

http://image.frompo.com/3623302d0c2921386050c9d87f87017d

If you look at the white anti fricvtion plates on the toe piece behind them you can see curved lines marked into the plastic section. If your'slooks similiar but with the black piece that the friction pads are on almost near the back ( very few if any lines showing ) then you need to adjust the toe unit forward.

If there is no screw where I said then it may be behind a plastic cover ( but hopefully as I said spyderjon or someone who has the S810 can confirm this to you first ).
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speed098 wrote:
@StevenF,

Not sure I have pilot S912Ti bindings on a set of skis the screw I mention is on the front directly below the din screw but on the base part of the binding. I will try and find some info out but if you can not adjust the front binding like on the 912 then you may need someone like spyderjon to help you out. Do you have a few images of the front binding ? One from directly in front and one looking down into the toe piece from behind it.

Does the front binding look like this ?

http://image.frompo.com/3623302d0c2921386050c9d87f87017d

If you look at the white anti fricvtion plates on the toe piece behind them you can see curved lines marked into the plastic section. If your'slooks similiar but with the black piece that the friction pads are on almost near the back ( very few if any lines showing ) then you need to adjust the toe unit forward.

If there is no screw where I said then it may be behind a plastic cover ( but hopefully as I said spyderjon or someone who has the S810 can confirm this to you first ).


Thanks again Speed, here are some images of the front binding:





From that picture you sent, mine seem to be further back, but I can't see a screw to adjust them like you say.
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@StevenF, Move the heel forward one slot, the outside point of the etched triangle on the metal tab should sit approx in the middle of the recessed notch. If it had a screw at the front it would have been a rental/ demo model.
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@StevenF, shop manual with appropriate instructions can be downloaded here http://www.salomoncertification.com/manuals/SPM_06_web.pdf
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Guys, thank you for all your help so far but I'm struggling to understand something. From what you're saying, the two arrows on the rear adjustment plate should sit between the notched area pictures above? Even when I adjust the heel binding forward, it still doesn't sit in between the notched area. See the video bellow:

Thanks for the manual FreeRider, I have been using that to adjust the toe height and width, but I couldn't see any way to move the toe binding forward.

See video bellow

http://vid4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/Wonderboy_001/20150212_110255_001_zps6o4apq18.mp4

I thought I had everything set and good to go but it seems not. Might just take them into a shop and get them to adjust them for me.
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@StevenF, You need to put the ski boot in the binding to check the forward pressure. Based in the video above that looks not to be the case.
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Okay so I have partially solved the issue

I unscrewed 4 screws on the toe binding which revealed three different positions 1,2 and 3 for the toe binding. It was set at 2 and I moved it forward to position 1 and put everything back together.



The only issue I have now is aligning the arrows in the notched area which doesn't seem to align!
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@StevenF, You need to put the ski boot in the binding to check the forward pressure. Based in the video above that looks not to be the case.


As you can tell I've never done this before Embarassed

I have now adjusted the heel binding forward so that the arrows sit bang in the middle of the notches. The heel of the boot sits on the lower lip binding just and no more without being pushed in. I think that should be them sorted. Thank you everyone for your help in solving my problem!
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Was about to reply you needed to undo the screws behind the friction pads ( same as some old Crossmax non pilot skis I picked up ).

Glad you have it sorted snowHead
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@StevenF, To be very sure--- you did push the boot down into the binding so the heelpice snapped up (as you would when you step into the ski) --- then you can check the forward pressure. As you have moved the toepiece you need to verify that the boot centre aligns with with the ski centre. You will find index marks (small vertical bars) on the boot and on the ski.

After you are done, I'd take the skis into a shop and have them check them over just to be sure you are all good.
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