Poster: A snowHead
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Is there such a thing as a quality touring binding which will fit both a touring boot as well as an Alpine boot? Just learning about touring gear, I have a way to go, and am going to invest in a whole new touring set up, would be nice if required to be able to ski my touring/freeride ski on my alpine alpine boot aswell as on the touring boot that i buy.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I use the Atomic Tracker / Salomon Guardian bindings on my mid and full fat skis. The latest model has a sliding friction plate for all soles, if your touring boot is not too rocketed then you can get an older version cheaper. A little heavy but feels rock solid, just like a normal Alpine binding.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Thanks Scarpa. What do you mean by rocketed, do you mean the opposite of concave on the sole, ie what they would call rockered in a ski?
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Fritshi bindings and Marker bindings (I have both) have adjustment to fit alpine (downhill) and touring boots, as far as I am aware all touring binding except dynafit (or similar using pins inserted to the boots) can be adjusted to fit alpine boots
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@jbk12, Damn autocorrect, I typed rocketed Many touring boots have a curved sole for easier walking, most dual purpose bindings will accommodate this. The older Tracker binding had a fixed anti friction place and even when adjusted high some soles would press down too hard on it for consistent releases in the event of a crash. In my case I just cut out a section of the vibram sole in my Dynafit touring boots and glued a small section of replacement alpine sole plate onto them. Have had no problems with them.
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Oh, they also come in two sizes and two DIN ranges.
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Excellent thanks 'on the rocks' and 'scarpa' for your advice. I've been doing my shopping and looking for a bit of decent value on a set of bindings that would be stiff enough for a fair bit of downhill but won't be so heavy that they'll completely defeat the object of the fairly light Dynastar Cham 87 HM 172 ski that i'm going to fit them on + of course will work with both my new Scott Cosmos Tour II boot + my old Tecnica explosion 8 alpine boot (excuse the name dropping, just giving you context!). My research so far has me looking at Marker Tour, Marker Baron and Marker Duke bindings. Anybody have any view on pro's and cons', reviews having skied them and or which'd be most appropriate for me, considering i guess I guess 70% on piste, 10% off piste & 20% off piste via touring?
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For 70% on piste, I'm surprised the Salomon Guardian (same product as Atomic Tracker, just a re-branded appearence; Salomon and Atomic worked on the binding together) hasn't come up in your research yet. Worth a look. Lots of really good information on YouTube for the Guardian (Cody Townsend helped in the development and has some vids up) and they get good reviews. The Dynafit 'Beast' 14 and 16 are the 'best in slot' if you're doing a higher percentage of off-piste or up, but @70% the Guardian is pretty much tailored to your need. Also don't need special boots for Guardian [though knowing little about boots, I don't know if your existing boot is already ready for the special pins of the Beasts. If yes: the Beast would be a no-brainer for you, I would suggest].
And Scarpa is trying to say 'rockered'
Edit - ah - I see you're trying to keep weight down... And these Guardians are pretty heavy. Sorry if that's why you're avoiding them!
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Guardians, Barons, Dukes, Marker Tours and Fritschis will fit normal Alpine boots. None of them are particularly light but will do the job for shorter skins where weight is less of an issue.
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