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Season work in Japan for 15/16

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Hi Snowheads! Very Happy First thread!

I'm in my last year of university and was thinking of spending a ski season in Japan for the 15/16 season. I would ideally like to stay in either Niseko or Hakuba as they both are a well-known English speaking resort. I would like to work as bar staff as it would give me a chance to get as much skiing done, I've looked and researched into the threads that already exists but I'm in a rather different situation. I'm a British born Japanese and fluent in both languages but the problem is the passport. I have both Japanese and British passports at the moment, but when I turn 22 this summer (June) I have to choose between which passports to keep due to the Japanese law not accepting to have two different passports.

I would like to start looking and applying for work soon but due to this passport situation I'm a little stuck.

This would be my first season and wanted to ask a couple questions... Puzzled
.Other than a bar staff, what would get me maximum skiing done or a job that requires fluent Englsih + Japanese?
.Will most Job vacancies provide a place to stay?

Appreciate any feedback and info etc!

Thanks! -Junpei
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Ask the japanese authoroties nicely - I know 4 people with dual nationality - 2 of them have only one passport (the non japanese one) but have no problem in terms of working/living in Japan. 2 are American, one is British and the other is Dutch, all born aborad to Japanese parents. So it is possible just a bit of a paper trail.

If I were you I would look at how hard it is to get a UK passport having inotialy given it up, or just getting permenent UK residancy on the Japanese passport, probably the easer of the 2 ways to play.
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A job at one of the more premium hotels would cry out for someone with those language skills. I worked at the Niseko Village Ski School and we were based next to the Niseko Hilton. They'd bite your hand off (as would the ski school for counter/booking staff), and they do provide accommodation, too.
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@Soda, Sorry for hijacking, @Idris, @thedrewski, Thanks for the tips. Know the problem. Sad
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Idris wrote:
Ask the japanese authoroties nicely - I know 4 people with dual nationality - 2 of them have only one passport (the non japanese one) but have no problem in terms of working/living in Japan. 2 are American, one is British and the other is Dutch, all born aborad to Japanese parents. So it is possible just a bit of a paper trail.

If I were you I would look at how hard it is to get a UK passport having inotialy given it up, or just getting permenent UK residancy on the Japanese passport, probably the easer of the 2 ways to play.


Does sound like a bit of hassle, I'll look into those and see what I can do. I was thinking of trying to keep my Japanese passport for as long as I can while keeping my british passport, I know of many people that does even after 22 but things can get out of hand once the Japanese government finds out! Worst comes the worse I'll keep my british passport.
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+1 to thedrewski.

The higher the role the higher the pay. But also less time to play.
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@Soda, your problem does not actually exist.

You cannot give up British Citizenship...no process exists! It also cannot be taken away unless you are convicted for Treason (and that would be too big an ask by the Japanese).
You can not have a British Passport issued in your name, but at any time you could simply apply and get one.
Have a proper conversation with the Japanese authorities and you will find that this is something they are well aware of. Perhaps let your British passport expire and then you can truthfully say that you do not have a British passport and that will probably be enough.
They may not like it, but they will lump it.

The British couldn't care less how many other nationalities you have!

Do make sure that you always enter/leave Japan on your Japanese passport.

My son is dual US and UK, under US law you have to chose...except you don't if it is dual US/UK because of the UK thing. The Americans just have to put up with it, and so they do.
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@Mike Pow exactly, need to get out there and get as much skiing done!

@rungsp Yeah, I figured that out after posting the thread Confused Probably going to end up using my Japanese passport, just going to have to do some paper work after I move into Japan for the season rolling eyes
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https://www.gov.uk/renounce-british-nationality/overview Puzzled

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/279405/Guide_RS1_January_2014.pdf


It is a bit more complicated.


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Hyst wrote:
https://www.gov.uk/renounce-british-nationality/overview Puzzled
I'm not getting rid of British nationality!
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@Soda, Just reacted to @rungsp, statement.

Are both your parents japanese by nationality?
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Plenty of jobs with many operators depending on what you fancy. as people have said with the language skills you'll find no problems. Get in touch with ht holidays, nisade or ski Japan as they're the biggest in Niseko. Most of the big companies will provide accommodation.
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Is Japan likely to ask you for proof that you've given up your UK citizenship? Because if not, I'd just keep schtum and leave the UK passport at home.
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@Hyst, Yup, they are both Japanese

@glp9, Awesome! I've already looked through skiJapan but not ht holidays or nisade, will have a look!

@Lizzard, They wouldn't know so that's what I'm most likely going to do.
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@Hyst, that's interesting! I wonder if that is a new process?

When my son enquired he was told (at the time) that there was no process under UK Law to give up British citizenship.
It must have changed...

Still my overall advice would be to keep shtum and wing it!
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Soda wrote:
exactly, need to get out there and get as much skiing done!


That's the trick though. If you want a job you'll actually have to...work! Unless you're an instructor you're not going to be on the snow as much as you'd like.

If you want to just ski, then just ski. But if you want a job, then you'll have to accept that you're going to sacrifice some ski time.
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@rungsp, The japanese authorities usually know if somebody has dual nationality. In my country just this december was past a law witch accepts dual nationality. So until 22 years there is no problem for us.

Just a little funny thing in todays security society - my daughter leaves my country with her this country passport with her this country name and disapears in the air, just to land in Japan with her japaneses passport with a different name. So much for flying security.

@Soda, There is always the Fujimori case, as both your parents are japanese nationals, there is the a good chance always to become japanese nationality again (even if you have been president in an other country).

Don't think Japan will go for dual nationality for many many years to come. Sad
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@thedrewski, Yes I understand, but I just simply can't afford to spend a whole season and not work, plus it has some advantages of accommodation etc, would be much cheaper too. I just want to experience what this 'doing a ski season' is all about!

@Hyst, The Fujimori case is a little different though, he did run a country and most likely had some connections to the Japanese government so he just carried on having both nationalities. Only if i ran a country... rolling eyes
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@Soda, Madeye-Smiley Your time will come! New PM?
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@Hyst, You better be clear about that next time, I had a think and thought..... personal message Puzzled Puzzled
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Niseko has incredible night skiing so depending on shift patterns you should be able to ski at some point everyday if you are motivated to.
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