 Poster: A snowHead
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My knowledge of ski boots before I started reading sH was cheerfully vague at best and a deep dark chasm of ignorance at worst.
The concept that the shell of a ski boot should be as small and well-fitted as possible, then subjected to techniques previously honed in a mediaeval torture chamber (stretching, beating, cutting, melt-moulding) to achieve a shape providing utilitarian comfort, whilst really being quite logical and obvious, was one that had never occurred to my pampered feet before.
With the liner removed, it seems that for a performance fit there should only be 8mm between your heel and the back of the inside of the shell when your toes are just touching the front of the boot (and proportional space round the rest of the foot), and for a comfort fit no more than 20mm. I have...uhmm...17mm, so pretty luxuriant  .
What d'ya reckon?
How much space between heel and shell do you have?
Can you ski in them all day?
Do you have to undo them at lunch or on chairs?
Do you use the liner the boot came with, a Zipfit, Intuition, or a foamed Conformable or Strolz? (or plugs?  )
Do you have footbeds?
I didn't answer my own questions . SZK and CEM lead the way
17mm
All day
I don't have to undo them at lunch but I do. Sometimes I take my feet out and share the pleasure 
Liner the boot came with at the mo.
Superfeet Full Kork footbeds
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Sun 18-12-05 18:26; edited 2 times in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I measure 28 on the Brannock, weighted and ski in a 26. A 26 will measure around 27 internally and with a good suport my foot happily fits into the space. However this is about preception of comfort. I wear climbing shoes all summer, i've had warm ski boots that are too big and now happily let comfort give way to precission. This won't always be the case for everyone, it just depends how far along the storyboard you are. This is why it's difficult to talk in too much depth about your specific boot/foot needs without your feet in front of us. We need to test your foot's resistance in our hands, look at blood disperssion, bio-mechanics etc etc. Their are too many factors and this is maybe why i feel this has to be done in resort, that way we can be a little 'Medieval' and then ease off the presure day by day.
5-8mm sounds great, i think, but never sit back.
Yep can ski in them all day easily.
Yep undo them on the lift, at lunch sometimes i take them off, depends how long it takes to get served and eat.
Used to ski Zip-fit for 3 years, now in a plug shell with P.U. injection.
I ski like a goon in anything else, in my plugs i feel every pine needle and can fly. 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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easiski,
try sticking a disc of thin (2-3mm)material (bootfit foam, leather or neoprene) to the top of the liner over the toes, this will take out a little volume and might make the fit a little more secure around that area...also adds a little warmth if you use neoprene 
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CEM, Cheers - where on earth would I get neoprene? Excellent idea.
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CEM, Or search beneath chairlifts for any neoprene face masks that have been dropped 
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Scarpa, always a plan if you are stuck
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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you can get those socks that you stick over the outside of your ski boot. I think slush and rubble or ellis brigham sell em. I think they might be neoprene but don't quote me on that.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I'm currently mutilating an old wet suit for my horse riding hobby!
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What on earth does that mean?! 
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finnbob, sounds like a good idea for the lungeing. My favourite horse was Sammy - but that's another (and very off topic) discussion. If you come you must bring photos, and I'll show you mine - horse evening anyone???????
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finnbob,
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Hi George's better skiing partner here. I have had some ski boots fitted whilst in the resort of Tignes last season and they did a great job adjusting them every day for me.
I am happy that they have done everything possible to make them correct for my feet and can't wait to try them out in a couple of weeks in Lake Louise - however - I have started wearing them around the house to get used to them and I experience pins & needles everytime I take them off which last for ages.
I have got very bad circulation and have been treated by the doctor in the past for it. I am going to start taking a 75mg asprin for the next couple of weeks to see if this helps. Has anyone got any more suggestions?
Cheers, Claire
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Don't like the blood thinning idea if that is what it is you are doing...
Maybe you aren't in the right stance when walking round the house,
One for the doctors, boot and medical...
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george owen, Claire, a high strength (odour free) Garlic capsule could help you here. Garlic can improve peripheral circulation.
The stance that you are adopting when in your ski boots in the house, is different from skiing...try standing with the boots flexed, or standing in your bindings, just don't try answering the door 
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Yup - keep a 2 foot distance between yourself and everything you are attempting to reach around the house. That'll make you flex
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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george owen, Claire. Don't forget your house is probably not -10 deg!!! Your feet will be much puffier in boots in house than out on the mountain. I suspect that's reason for pins and needles. Hopefully should be fine when you get on the snow!
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easiski, leads on to another interesting point, which really doesn't help people in rental boots...
After a long journey (say over 3 hours) seated (particularly by plane, but also by car/coach, etc), your feet and ankles will be swollen. for a few hours after arriving, it is a bad idea to get boots fitted, as your feet will shrink back down to normal (particularly if you've been in bed).
So, don't buy boots the day you arrive in resort.
And if you are renting, it's a good idea to put it off to the next morning.
(This info was given to me by a former US ski team boot fitter)
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You know it makes sense.
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Thanks again to all - you have made me feel much more confident about my boots and I am really looking forward to seeing how they are. 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Good hydration is the key to bringing down any swelling should you need to buy boots in the morning or after a flight. Try taking a neurofen before going to the shop, should it be safe for you to take them.
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