Poster: A snowHead
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Do not start a fat v thin discussion again please!
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Are Hire ski's built to the standard as ski's in the shop for purchase?
For example if I hire (for arguments sake) a Rossignol B2 will it be the same B2 that I can buy in the shop, or are ski's manafactured differently for Hire shop use?
I appreciate that bindings are another story.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I reckon they are in most cases, though there are "made for hire" skis, such as those you find at snow domes.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Rental skis run better over rocks etc
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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boredsurfin, sometimes you find a ski that has been especially made for rental, but usually they are the same, although of course rental bindings are a tad heavier than normal bindings. I prefer rental bindings as they are much easier to adjust, I don't believe the extra weight makes any difference to the ski.
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Whilst working in france last season i found out that they are generally the same skis but do not have such a polished finish.
For example. The Head ixrc800. For rental it doesn't have the textured top sheet and glossyness that the shop skis have.
The guy in the test centre told me that this is a way of keeping the cost of skis for the hire shops down.
So on first appearence they look the same and in fact are the same in construction, but if you look closely the rental pair will not have the same finish.
I am not saying this is the case with all makes models and hire shops, but certainly true for Ski Set in La-plagne
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The bindings are also different, hire bindings have a wide range of adjustment, adding noticeably to the weight.
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boredsurfin, Pretty much if you're going for a "proper" ski as you mention. What is different are the base rate hire skis like the Dunastar Agyl, which are rubbish, and not available to buy. I haven't noticed the difference FastCarver, mentioned, but that's only cosmetic anyway and therefore irrelevant.
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easiski, when you say basic hire skis are "rubbish" they are still alright for total beginners to get the basics aren't they? I only ask coz I am taking the wife skiing this season and she will need to hire. Would rather not have to pay the extra for "silver" skis if I can help it!
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the ice perv, basic hire skis will be fine for your wife. Anything better will just be a waste of cash. Hire skis are generally in very good condition as they are serviced regularly.
People that buy skis are generally intermediate skiers , and therefore beginner skis are no good to them( hence people saying they are rubbish), as they have a soft flex and are very forgiving. However a soft flex and forgiving ski is EXACTLY what a beginner needs.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Thanks FastCarver, I agree a basic ski is all she needs, but I gather easiski is an instructor so I was wondering if they knew something in particular about the Dynastar Agyl, as that is probably the ski my mrs will end up with....?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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the ice perv another way to look at it; as with all products, some ski brands are bottom of the heap. That's not necessarily to say they're compete cack/unsafe/etc, just that they're not worth the money in comparison to what you get with other brands.
So as an intermediate looking to purchase skis that will see you through a few seasons, [b]you[b/] probably [i]should[i/] turn your nose up at whatever brand is bottom of the heap. But since your wife won't have the skill for brand to make any real difference, there's no point her paying any more than necessary for a rental and so the bottom of the heap might be, well, at least not INappropriate for her first week or so.
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the ice perv, Some rental places might give her a free upgrade (or reduced) if she progresses quickly during the week. You can ask if that happens - and pick a part of the day when the store is quiet eg mid afternoon.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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FastCarver, "People that buy skis are generally intermediate skiers" ???
D'you reckon? Most skiers I know are 1. good/competent/recreational skiers and 2. buy skis. Most intermediates I know hire skis.
Why your comment? (Not wanting to contradict, just curious me )
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