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Are Hire ski's the same as Retail?

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Do not start a fat v thin discussion again please!

BUT

Are Hire ski's built to the standard as ski's in the shop for purchase?

For example if I hire (for arguments sake) a Rossignol B2 will it be the same B2 that I can buy in the shop, or are ski's manafactured differently for Hire shop use?

I appreciate that bindings are another story.
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I reckon they are in most cases, though there are "made for hire" skis, such as those you find at snow domes.
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boredsurfin wrote:
...if I hire (for arguments sake) a Rossignol B2 will it be the same B2 that I can buy in the shop ....


NO! (it will have those little rubber handy-dandy tip protectors on it, that you cannot buy for love nor money for your own Bandits). Mad Razz

Otherwise they certainly looked the same to me (but maybe the hire ones have got chipboard underneath the varnish) Shocked
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Rental skis run better over rocks etc wink
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boredsurfin, sometimes you find a ski that has been especially made for rental, but usually they are the same, although of course rental bindings are a tad heavier than normal bindings. I prefer rental bindings as they are much easier to adjust, I don't believe the extra weight makes any difference to the ski.
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Whilst working in france last season i found out that they are generally the same skis but do not have such a polished finish.

For example. The Head ixrc800. For rental it doesn't have the textured top sheet and glossyness that the shop skis have.

The guy in the test centre told me that this is a way of keeping the cost of skis for the hire shops down.

So on first appearence they look the same and in fact are the same in construction, but if you look closely the rental pair will not have the same finish.

I am not saying this is the case with all makes models and hire shops, but certainly true for Ski Set in La-plagne
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The bindings are also different, hire bindings have a wide range of adjustment, adding noticeably to the weight.
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boredsurfin, Pretty much if you're going for a "proper" ski as you mention. What is different are the base rate hire skis like the Dunastar Agyl, which are rubbish, and not available to buy. I haven't noticed the difference FastCarver, mentioned, but that's only cosmetic anyway and therefore irrelevant. Very Happy
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easiski, when you say basic hire skis are "rubbish" they are still alright for total beginners to get the basics aren't they? I only ask coz I am taking the wife skiing this season and she will need to hire. Would rather not have to pay the extra for "silver" skis if I can help it!
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the ice perv, basic hire skis will be fine for your wife. Anything better will just be a waste of cash. Hire skis are generally in very good condition as they are serviced regularly.

People that buy skis are generally intermediate skiers , and therefore beginner skis are no good to them( hence people saying they are rubbish), as they have a soft flex and are very forgiving. However a soft flex and forgiving ski is EXACTLY what a beginner needs.
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Thanks FastCarver, I agree a basic ski is all she needs, but I gather easiski is an instructor so I was wondering if they knew something in particular about the Dynastar Agyl, as that is probably the ski my mrs will end up with....?
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the ice perv another way to look at it; as with all products, some ski brands are bottom of the heap. That's not necessarily to say they're compete cack/unsafe/etc, just that they're not worth the money in comparison to what you get with other brands.

So as an intermediate looking to purchase skis that will see you through a few seasons, [b]you[b/] probably [i]should[i/] turn your nose up at whatever brand is bottom of the heap. But since your wife won't have the skill for brand to make any real difference, there's no point her paying any more than necessary for a rental and so the bottom of the heap might be, well, at least not INappropriate for her first week or so.
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the ice perv, Some rental places might give her a free upgrade (or reduced) if she progresses quickly during the week. You can ask if that happens - and pick a part of the day when the store is quiet eg mid afternoon.
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
the ice perv, I don't like those basic hire skis even for beginners. Beginners need to feel the ski turning for them to gain confidence, so they need a ski that will help them. Whereas ski like the head Big Easy or the Dynastar Agyl are easy to ski on they don't give you any reward for doing it well or any solid feeling from the edge. I really do recommend that you get her a decent but short pair of skis. I suggest something like the Volkl 320 or the K2 Four (a bit last year I know) but only at shoulder height. That way she'll learn much quicker. I hope you're not putting her in 12 in a class ski school BTW.

Manda, It's nothing to do with Brand - only model. All ski makes are fine, just some models are better than others. I used to like to put beginners on the old Head Cyber Space (extrememly shaped), but there aren't any around any more. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

It's important that the beginner learns right in the first place "the ski turns you, you don't turn the ski". You can do it just as well in a crawl speed SP turn as faster - how much better not to have to unlearn pushing the damn things around!!! Very Happy
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
FastCarver, "People that buy skis are generally intermediate skiers" ???

D'you reckon? Most skiers I know are 1. good/competent/recreational skiers and 2. buy skis. Most intermediates I know hire skis.

Why your comment? (Not wanting to contradict, just curious me wink )
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