 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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So it begins...... 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Sell, sell, sell 
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A bunch of opportunistic ambulance-chasing scumbag vultures in Seattle has released a news statement saying it is "investigating" whether GoPro cameras........
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FIFY
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Please tell me there are not going to be law suits against GoPro... FFS!!!!
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Gopro will respond saying
"Sorry no claim as the battery life is so bad by the time they got up the mountain the device would be flat and wouldn't interfere with anything" 
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I am investigating starting a lawsuit seeking compensation for the hours I have spent watching poorly edited gopro footage of people slaying flat groomers 
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| Arno wrote: |
| I am investigating starting a lawsuit seeking compensation for the hours I have spent watching poorly edited gopro footage of people slaying flat groomers |
Ho ho.
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| foxtrotzulu wrote: |
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A bunch of opportunistic hedgefund scumbag vultures who have aggressively shorted Gopro have encouraged their lawyer mates in Seattle whose firm has released a news statement saying it is "investigating" whether GoPro cameras........
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RFIFY
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Top tip: Go Pro don't force you to wear a camera...
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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This again?
BCA put it to bed years ago:
http://www.backcountryaccess.com/2012/11/19/issw-2012-avalanche-beacons-and-electrical-interference/
I've witnessed those tests being repeated with similar results. As they say, you can screw up a receiver with quite a lot of things if you want to. I'm looking forward to the law suits against Apple for the iPods and whoever for the GPS. And don't even start on the mobile phones. Guides I ride with generally advise people to turn off mobile phones (useless anyway), but not other electronic devices (cameras, radios etc).
I'm fairly sure that if you swallow a GoPro it will hurt quite a lot too. The instructions definitely don't point that out - perhaps your American lawyers could have a go at that one too?
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| timlongs wrote: |
| Top tip: Go Pro don't force you to wear a camera... |
And gopro state on their website
"Always select a helmet that meets the applicable safety standard when you use with a GoPro helmet mount."
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You know it makes sense.
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| ansta1 wrote: |
| timlongs wrote: |
| Top tip: Go Pro don't force you to wear a camera... |
And gopro state on their website
"Always select a helmet that meets the applicable safety standard when you use with a GoPro helmet mount." |
And so say all of us!
Why do some people feel they are entitled to issue writs against manufacturers/other people when s**t happens?
No one ever forced them to buy/purchase/wear the product, this in my opinion is what is wrong with the world & solicitors/lawyers who offer their services on a 'No win no fee basis' are Bottom Feeders who work on the assumption that manufacturers will pay up rather than go to court.
I say stand up to the low life, fight tooth & nail & eventually they will give up & crawl back under their rock 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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michaelbury17, +1
too many people not willing to face up to their choice.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| ansta1 wrote: |
michaelbury17, +1
too many people not willing to face up to their choice. |
Unfortunately that appears to be the truth together with the possibility of getting a cash payout ...unethical, immoral but hey just my opinion!
In the long run we all pay because insurers will up the premiums, so guess the only winners will be the low life solicitors/lawyers who appear to thrive on other peoples misery..shame on their profession!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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michaelbury17, have you felt put out by these charlatans? Traumatised perhaps? Don't just suffer. Call me for a no win no fee damages claim. 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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i don't understand why people mount them on their helmets anyway, as most helmet mounted footage is rubbish. The footage posted here of a race in Austria last year, with camera mounted on the shin was excellent.
The question of "is the safety of a helmet compromised when holes are drilled in it and a bracket is attached?" Durr.
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| thecramps wrote: |
i don't understand why people mount them on their helmets anyway, as most helmet mounted footage is rubbish. The footage posted here of a race in Austria last year, with camera mounted on the shin was excellent.
The question of "is the safety of a helmet compromised when holes are drilled in it and a bracket is attached?" Durr.
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part 1 answer. because the head and body provide a very easy and no-cost way of stabilising thr video footage.
part 2 answer. Most people dont drill holes to mount a gopro or other camera.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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will be interesting to see how ruroc get on with this as they have an in built mount?!
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For snowboarders helmet-mount is almost completely useless, although that doesn't stop people trying it. Poles are more common -they too do not come with idiot health warnings. "Insertion of this pole into your eye socket may damage your ability to read this health warning".
If you're truly scared by all this (I think no one here is that daft), then one of my snowboarding mates will sell you one of these:
http://www.prostandard.com/
It will not prevent damage to your dentistry should you stuff yourself in the face.
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ansta1, stabilizing an image? really? as people ski they look about, and when you do your go pro does too.
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| thecramps wrote: |
| ansta1, stabilizing an image? really? as people ski they look about, and when you do your go pro does too. |
Your neck muscles are attached to a nice feedback loop that helps keep your face, uh, facing the right direction. It takes a bit less effort to use those to keep the camera pointing in one direction than it is to, say, use a chest mount and ski competently.
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| michaelbury17 wrote: |
| Why do some people feel they are entitled to issue writs against manufacturers/other people when s**t happens |
Absolutely agree, but on the other side, if they are selling something you assume it's safe to be used, at least the way they tell you to use it (which mounting on helmet obviously is).
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| michaelbury17 wrote: |
| Why do some people feel they are entitled to issue writs against manufacturers/other people when s**t happens? |
Because they are.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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philwig, I'm going to disagree - I've filmed plenty of stuff from a head mount on a snowboard and prefer it, You just have to be a bit more aware of where you're looking and what you're shooting to keep it in frame, while keeping aware of whats going on around you. Saying that I do have a pole I'm going to try this year, and depth perception is over-rated in my book.
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Perhaps I've just not had the pleasure of the good stuff - care to post an example or two of people snowboarding with helmet mounts?
Personally I often ride with both a pole and a helmet mounted camera.
I'd expect you may find that at a resort "keeping aware of what's going on around you" involves turning your head, making it hard to get anything other than short segments.
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You know it makes sense.
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philwig, I always try to keep cuts short. Most of the time I track others keeping them the object of focus - I have loads of shots of friends riding/skiing but very little film of myself because of it... Did have some success with a board mount last year with the Contour facing fwd and then back and angled up in a 'Selfie' style.
As is traditional for any cammer, I rarely end up doing much with the footage, so I actually find myself filming less and less these days despite the kit being much simpler to use (and carry...AND get through customs) than my original bulletcam rig I put together 10 years or more ago.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| dogwatch wrote: |
| michaelbury17 wrote: |
| Why do some people feel they are entitled to issue writs against manufacturers/other people when s**t happens? |
Because they are. |
Fair enough, just my opinion.
I love it that we are all different & have a choice in life, enjoy the snow 
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Poster: A snowHead
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| michaelbury17 wrote: |
| dogwatch wrote: |
| michaelbury17 wrote: |
| Why do some people feel they are entitled to issue writs against manufacturers/other people when s**t happens? |
Because they are. |
Fair enough, just my opinion.
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It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of law. They are entitled. Whether they can win is another matter.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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dogwatch, Legally entitled is one thing. Whether it is morally right is another matter completely.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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The enabler for many of these lawsuits is no-win, no-fee lawyering, about which I feel conflicted. On the one hand, why should only the affluent have access to the law? On the other hand, there's a financial motivation to settle rather than fight and that in turn motivates dubious claims.
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"Always select a helmet that meets the applicable safety standard when you use with a GoPro helmet mount."
yeah....
but of course no helmets are actually put through the safety tests with a gopro mount in place are they? You have no way of knowing if the combination of mount/camera/test would pass the "applicable safety standard"
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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thecramps, nowhere did i say other mounting options weren't or couldn't provide a stable mount!
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| dogwatch wrote: |
| michaelbury17 wrote: |
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| michaelbury17 wrote: |
| Why do some people feel they are entitled to issue writs against manufacturers/other people when s**t happens? |
Because they are. |
Fair enough, just my opinion.
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It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of law. They are entitled. Whether they can win is another matter. |
Like I said we are all entitled to our opinion & as in life we are never all going to agree, thats life!
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All they are doing is suing. they only want to see if they affect the GoPro sales/share price and hope goPro pay them to shut up.
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| ansta1 wrote: |
| thecramps, nowhere did i say other mounting options weren't or couldn't provide a stable mount! |
I didn't say you did did I?
I was just suggesting an alternative mount that IMV produces a better film anyway.
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