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How to see on the slopes

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Hoping for some advice

I wear glasses normally and when I go skiing I usually go without which means tired eyes. I can't wear contacts as I struggle far to much trying to get them in.

Are there any options worth considering or should I just man up ?

My left eye is -0.75 and my right eye is -1.75 (with astigmatism)
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The wife has goggles which fit over her glasses. Simples. If you wear a lid, you'll need to make sure that the goggles fit with the lid.
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Goggles with optical inserts, OTG goggles, prescription sunglasses. Take your choice of one or more.
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Prescription sunglasses for me. Skied without any eye correction for years and it was amazing being able to see beyond my ski tips. There is such a wide choice available now that certain pairs also perform really well in flat light.
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The biggest ( and best) option is getting some who knows... to help you get your contacts in (and out). If you can they're a life changer.
High street stores haven't a clue.
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kioksor, skiing was the only thing that made me stick with learning to deal with contacts (and worth it ) Very Happy
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I'm another. Thought I could never wear lenses but a good practice sorted me out. ButOTG
But OTG goggles can work through inserts are better.
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Most major brands make an OTG goggle of some description. I wear glasses too and don't do contacts either and have used Scott or Oakley OTGs for years.
OTGs normally have an additional band of foam to make them sit a bit further away from the face, but if you go down this route, may be worth getting yourself a spare pair of glasses with as small a lens as possible as sometimes you can have problems with getting the frame of your specs within the frame of the goggles, and the goggles push the glasses back onto your face - not comfortable and if you're wearing sunscreen, that means insta-smudge.

Other problem you may get is your glasses misting up. Treat your glasses with anti-fog or make sure the goggles you get have really good ventilation, and avoid getting them too wet if you can.
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I wore contacts for years without hassle, once you get the hang of them it should not be a problem. I did use a specialist contact lens practitioner, not some high street generalist, perhaps shopping around may help.

Eventually my eyes started to ache if I wore them 18 hours or more without a break, so I just got them lasered. It wasn't cheap - I chose the surgeon I wanted - but it was way less invasive than learning to wear contacts and it's brilliant for snow sports and everything else.
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Prescription inserts for me, I change them between bright light and dull light goggles, although I've just ordered a pair of goggles with modulator lenses for this winter. I've also got a couple of pairs of prescription sunglasses and take the oldest pair up the mountain and occasionally ski with them on.
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Greetings - my eyesight is almost the opposite to yours so I could quite happily live without correction on the slopes. +0.5 L +1.75 R with astigmatism too which is the real pain.

I'm planning on using contacts and goggles - the best advice I can give with regards to putting them in/taking them out is this: place lens on tip of index finger of your dominant hand, roll eye up (optionally diagonally), place gently on the white of the eye as much as you can (if you're anything like me you'll have to use to use your thumb and forefinger to prise open your eyelids who resist like buggery), then gently roll your eye down onto the lens, then blink a few times. Out is a little trickier, but finger on lens, roll eye and pinch out - not foolproof especially with dry eyes, in which case get the solution out and give the eye a good dousing.
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Hi I am really long sighted - ended up with 2 pairs of glasses - near and far etc - awful. My optician then suggested contacts which by some miracle do both jobs in one. Need primark +1 sometimes for late nights but a revelation. You can also get daily disposables for most prescriptions so if you lose one on the slope you can just pop another in if you take a sufficient quantity on holiday. They are really cheap too
Best thing is to see a contact lens specialist and give it a try - changed my life - sports no problem - even swimming (not advised but it works OK too!) Good luck.
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I have strange eyes. Can do contacts but have also used quality goggles with specs underneath. Providing you don't get snow inside them then the specs usuyally stay clear. Really doesn't work so well with cheapo goggles.
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I have Rudy Project Gozen wrap sunglasses with prescription inserts ...... work great in fine weather.
Also use normal glasses with OTG Carrera and Scott goggles ..... work well, but have cut out some of the foam where the glasses arm goes to get more air in .... I need a big pair of goggles as some of the supposed OTG sets are too small (Bolle) for me.
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I have to say that I wouldn't bother with contacts if it weren't for skiing and 'going out'. I would be happier if my prescription was available for daily disposables but not yet Sad Long sighted with astigmatism. I will be asking again when I have my check up soon.
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^^ I use dailies with +5.5 & +4.5 and have an astigmatism, OK, vision isn't perfect at the short end, but quite acceptable. Low light is the worst. After just 7 yrs I can put them in and take them out in seconds without a mirror (;>)
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Some helmet manufacturers now do visors that will allow the wearer to have their glasses on. Schuss in Boots modelling a version....although not wearing specs in this pic.
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Thanks for the responses

Long eyelashes (not boasting) and small eyes? lol can't help but touch a lash with the lens and it's all over then. Instant blink.

Any advice on inserts? Smith do an insert but then I need to shell out for the turbo fan goggles? Sad

Best prescription sunglasses? I always find my eyes get cold/dry

I own 2 pairs of OTG goggles but I really hate wearing them over glasses. Puzzled Puzzled
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kioksor, I have long eyelashes too, you just need to train away the blink response and hold the eyelids further apart.

Friends have the Adidas goggles and inserts, they seemed fine even on snowy or wet days, there are several other brands too.
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Contacts!

Can then wear goggles, sunnies, nothing as required. As has been said get some help with getting them in and find a lens you like - lenses are by no means all the same!
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kioksor, I often think about going the visored helmet route, I think they would be brilliant, but having spent a small fortune on decent goggles and contact lenses I can't justify the expense.
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has anyone tried these before: http://www.spex4less.com/skiing_goggles.shtml

You tell them your prescription and they make the lense for you. Considering buying a pair but would like to know if anyone has had any experience with them
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enfilade, I just looked at your link - unfortunately those prescription goggles would be no use for me as the spherical correction only goes to a maximum of -6.0 dioptres, and my short sightedness is a lot greater than that!
I used to wear OTG goggles over my spectacles, and although keeping the spectacles as clean as possible helps reduce fogging, it still occurred on occasion. This last season however I bought one of the visor type helmets as in Cacciatore's post, and I've found this the ideal solution for spectacle wearers like me. Mine is a Bolle that comes with two interchangeable visors - one grey for general sunny conditions and one yellow for flat light conditions. I bought mine from here


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>.. I often think about going the visored helmet route, I think they would be brilliant, but having spent a small fortune on decent goggles and contact lenses I can't justify the expense

I tried it, but it's not that great. There's a gap around the bottom of the visor which in good powder is a magnet for the blower, plus it's a place for cold air to hit warm skin. So although I find goggles crude (better used for driving 1930s cars perhaps), they are better than the visors I've tried, so far.
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I wear some big arsed Bolle ones, which fit over my glasses, but I find I can see fairly well in the brightness of snow.

If you really want an out of the box suggestion, how about eyesight correction exercises? You might just about get enough improvement with a few minutes a day between now and when you go, that you can not bother with any form of correction.
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kioksor, have a look at http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?p=2463029&highlight=#2463029 from earlier this year. I've used Adidas Climacool glasses for the last 3 years with prescription inserts and work fine for all but the really grim goggle-days.
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I've been around the houses on this one and by far the best solution for me are goggles with prescription inserts (Adidas ID2s in my case). Not the cheapest option by far but work!

Nothing = Everything past the tops of my ski poles out of focus so not a good idea

Contacts = I've got quite dry eyes so worked when learning but as got better/faster/poor light you blink less/stare more... Trust me when the edge of a contact dries out and scratches the inside of your eyelid at the top of a black it makes getting down REALLY hard and painful!

Goggles over glasses = Works for some and fine until they do fog up at which point you seem to fog every time you stop moving for the rest of the day. I also found it uncomfortable having the goggle strap + hat sandwiching ear/glasses arm/skull the whole day. I accept this will vary from person to person and maybe I just needed to MTFU Smile

Prescription inserts = Just like wearing normal goggles without glasses and no fogging issues unless you're an idiot and put them on top your head while stopped for a chat (thankfully only done that the once). Main down-side is, depending on eyesight you may end up having to carry your glasses and prescription sunglasses out with you, as you're blind as a bat as soon as you stop and take your goggles off. First world problems...
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Contacts for me (prescription is -6.0, though these days I have -6.0 R and -3.5 L (known as monovision) so I don't need reading glasses)- been using them for 37 years, and I can put them in in <40 seconds and take them out in < 20. I'm using high water content (69%) lenses Generally I take them out in the evening and go back to specs to allow oxygen to get to the eyes.

Never have any problem with them drying out on the slopes - I just wear wrap around sunglasses or goggles depending on weather/light. OTOH, over the years I've had the occasional bout of conjunctivitis and been unable to wear my lenses during a skiing holiday - then I use prescription sun glasses, or normal glasses under highish volume OTG goggles - never had a misting problem. The only problem with prescription sunnies is that you need to carry your normal specs too, so that you can swap over when you go into a darker area, eg downstairs to the loo in a bar.

Persevere with the contacts lenses, it makes skiing life so much easier. It take a few weeks to get the hang of them when you first start. There are several techniques for inserting them - go to a proper optician and find which works for you.
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Persevere with the contacts lenses, it makes skiing life so much easier. It take a few weeks to get the hang of them when you first start. There are several techniques for inserting them - go to a proper optician and find which works for you.

This. I wore hard (semi-permeable) lenses for 50+ years. Skiing with glasses is awful and really not necessary. A good optometrist will solve the problem for you.
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Pedantica, I've never had a problem skiing in glasses (prescription shades), other than occasional steams ups when I stop, but that soon clears as soon as I am moving again. On the other hand I hate wearing goggles. They make me feel kinda enclosed and removed from my surroundings. Don't care for hats either, for the same reason, unless it is really Baltic. Each to their own I guess.
Never tried contacts, on or off piste.
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dode, agree with you re hats and goggles! I ski in sunnies whenever possible so, to that extent, I do actually ski in glasses. Sorry for lack of logic. wink
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Mjit, hard lens or soft? The newer soft lenses have such high water quantity I've never had much of an issue, but I do carry a few drops to pop in in emergencies
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Another vote for persevering with the contacts. Took me a couple of hours Shocked when I first got them (daily disposables), but I can be done in under a minute now, although I still need a mirror for putting them in. Try different types/brands as the diameter and materials vary, and that can change how easy they are to put in. Different people use different techniques, too, so you have to find what works for you.

Mjit, Dry eyes is a big problem for me - I use Total 1 Dailies now which are some kind of newfangled layered silicone. I find them better than the "moist" options otherwise available, though I don't know if there's a version for longer wear.

My only problem is that they're not available with astigmatism correction, but the comfort factor outweighs the inconvenience of having to ski slightly closer to signposts Cool
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I cannot get on with goggles over the glasses as they always seem to steam up. I have also tried prescription inserts to wrap around sunglasses which were ok but then the answer to my prayers came when I bought one of these helmets and have the three visors as accessories but you probably only need the orange and the mirrored or black rather than both. I have skied without issue wearing glasses underneath for past four or five trips. The helmet visor is definitely the way forward can't recommend it enough. Even looks good in my opinion. In fact I have been stopped and asked for details of helmet by fellow four eyes on the piste!

http://www.dainese.me.uk/ski-snow/snow-equipment/helmets/dainese-v-jet-touch-helmet.html

http://snowboardove-prilby.heureka.cz/dainese-v-jet/
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I'd second the advice to try different contacts first. I don't use contacts for anything but skiing as I dislike the feel, but modern daily disposables are much softer so it rarely bothers me when I'm skiing now. I still take them off and back to glasses as soon as I hit the bar, but they usually last me the day, and I keep a spare pair on me if I need to give myself a break and change at lunch (rarely happens anymore).

I never got on with glasses under goggles, or even goggle inserts (borrowed a friend's who has a very similar prescription), as they always steam up. I have been tempted getting a helmet with a built in visor and using glasses, as this should solve the steam problem, but with better contracts I'm in no hurry.

The other option I like are prescription sports sunglasses. With the exception of the odd January trip I tend to find sunglasses as good as goggles, and then prescription sunglasses offer the best of both worlds.
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I'm with Claude B on prescription goggle inserts - I got them last season. I only need specs for distance vision, so they made sense. And I could actually see what the hell the slopes looked like more than 20 metres away. It was a revelation!
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Another vote for Goggles over contacts from me. I do have a pair of Bolle OTG goggles but prefer to wear them with contacts as I've found you need really small rimless glasses for them to be any good. I only wear contacts for skiing and cycling at the weekends and have found that goggles really help to reduce the amount my eyes dry when skiing and wearing my contacts.

I've just bought a pair of Modulator lensed goggles for this season hoping that they'll be even better to wear whatever the light conditions Happy
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Boris wrote:
Mjit, hard lens or soft? The newer soft lenses have such high water quantity I've never had much of an issue, but I do carry a few drops to pop in in emergencies


Soft daily disposables.

Like I said I do have dry eyes and only got a contact prescription because I wanted them for playing hockey, so only wearing for a couple of hours at a time. Had I been looking at them as a glasses replacement the optician said it would have been a no.

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...The only problem with prescription sunnies is that you need to carry your normal specs too, so that you can swap over when you go into a darker area, eg downstairs to the loo in a bar...


Ah, the most infuriating thing about skiing. Just what IS going through the heads of people designing mountain restaurants that makes "down a flight of poorly lit, smooth tiled stairs" the best answer to the question "where do we put the toilets?"?!?!
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If contacts really are a no go, how about Photochromatic prescription glasses? - I've not had any experience of them but they may remove the need to carry clear glasses or change them when the light conditions change
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