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stuarth, doh! Whistler/Blackcomb, poma/T-bar, whatever 
Simple mistake to make!!!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Oops, sorry paulhothersall, my post took too long. Darn work getting in the way!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Guys, I'm out 25th feb for 2 weeks, remember to include me when you arrange a meet for beers 
What are the different courses available then? Which ones should I be lookng at?
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Guys, I'm out 25th feb for 2 weeks, remember to include me when you arrange a meet for beers
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no worries,
what sort of thing do you want to do? instruct/coach or improve your skiing
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nbt, sounds like we can have a proper :sh: bash out there...
I can personally recommend Dave Murray - stuarth is the expert though.
What do you want? Serious learning? Fun touring?
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If anyone want to hook up to chat re the various options of CSIA, CSCF etc. in Whistler over a beer, then just drop me a PM and we'll sort something out!
If you are a pretty strong technical skier (good technically proficient wedge turns, good basic parallel, with edges changing simultaneously etc.) then the CSIA1 should be achievable without any prior training.
With Level 2 this is a different ball game - the stakes are higher, and the standard is also higher. I will certainly recommend prior specific Level2 training in order to understand what is expected of you, and to understand the different strands that make up the requirements. The standards are high in Whistler, and I know the pass rates of those that didn't have prior training.........
For a Level 3 - again - this is a whole step up again, and the skiing part is pretty tough. For the teaching side, you should not consider taking the exam unless you have had about a season's worth of instructing - using the Canadian methodology. It is possible to do the course without doing the 2 day exam.
For the CSCF1 - you should already be able to carve cleanly (perception vs. reality) at speed on hardpack. When I took my CSCF1 - among the other course participants were some FIS racers........
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veeeight, have you noticed how no one is agreeing with easiski? It's just an observation.
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Observation noted.
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nbt, sounds like we can have a proper :sh: bash out there...
I can personally recommend Dave Murray - stuarth is the expert though.
What do you want? Serious learning? Fun touring? |
All we need is an MBT for the hat trick
not quote sure what I want. not realy bothered about getting qualifications, just leanring to ski better on all terrain. Have dabbled in off piste and would like to improve. Am ok on most pistes although I detest bumps. Would like to learn to jump, actually, preferably without injury! Might leave that one for a european trip, just in case...
Quite odd, last night I watched "crazy canucks" on sky, a movie about the said bunch of skiiers in the 19709s, including of course Dave Murray...
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nbt,
Here's a quick summary of the lessons I've done...
- For mixture of on-piste work with gates + some off-pise stuff you really can't go wrong with the Dave Murray Camp. Coaches are awesome (if a little (well a lot) crazy!  ), and the mix works really well to improve all areas of skiing - absolutely transformed MrsH's skiing all round, and I'd like to think my own - though my very shallow learning curve meant I had to go every week!   See if you can get through the start gate of memory erasure and actually think about the technique you are supposed to be working on - no chance, it's just "must go faster"!!
- For more hard-core off piste/freeskiing stuff, Extremely Canadian is excellent, though hard work physically _and_ mentally - most of my more extreme GLC drinking moments occured after Extremely Canadian when I was celebrating still being walking/alive!
- For general all mountain cruising, good social skiing, and great instruction, I'd recommend Ski Esprit (I've only done the weekend one, so I don't know the weekeday staff - I'm sure they are excellent, I think a friend of mine who did the weekend one is now doing the weekday ones and I think she's probably one of the best instructors on the mountain)
- For a technical tune up, Supergroups are good. Small groups = loads of attention to detail.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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nbt, seems we have more than some initials in common
I asked about jumping over on epic last year - got some great replies - did you read it or shall I dig up the link?
I would suggest that you tell any instructor you end up with that you'd like to get a few hops in - they can easily keep an eye out for little kickers at the side of the piste and take you over them - I invariably spot them too late when on my own! Also it can be worth going to the park too. Do some research on park etiquette and use the lead up ramps as kickers. (Watch your insurance - mine has a special exclusion for terrain parks so none of that this year!!)
DM was definitely 'fun' and sounds like it might be your thing.
I was in the most basic group and we did a few bump runs over some *huge* bumps (which I still found v. hard but which were much better afterwards) but my absolute favourite was the steeps. Especially 'dropping in'. Only about a foot drop over a small edge but it was at the stop of a wonderfully steep run. I love the commitment of pointing your skis straight down what feels like a sheer drop and then practically pushing yourself down - awesome!
Any excuse to get off-piste too (which is far more 'normal' than it seems to be in Europe). Lesley, our teacher, would just ski off the edge, under ropes, whatever.
The gates were excellent. A good excuse to get a bit more aggressive and aim for that elusive angulation.
Anything else... one footed skiing (just a bit with some chat about balance etc); video analysis - not tremendously useful as a one-off; more cameraderie than the supergroups where you had different people each day.
If you do do a supergroup thing for more than one day then ask your instructor (if you get on!) whether they'll be able to take you the next day - mine was pleased to and made sure he took my group.
oh, and he was the one who got me into the small jumps...
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Snowy, I have to try it one day, time to stop being a wimp...
Of course, i mean to do Extremely at a Robbie level, not a DF/Stuarth level!
You are right, have been eating my weetabix for the last 2 weeks in preperation 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Extermely Candian isn;t included in the 50% offer, os it's off th elist for me. Need to sit down and work out whether DM or Ski Esprit is going to suit me better, what I can afford to pay, and how much time out of my holiday it'll take away from me spending with my mates. then do the same for MRs NBT and work out what the overall result is!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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There is another option, that isn't part of the Intrawest Umbrella - the Mike Dempsey Tour.
It's kinda ski improvement program in generall, although you will get Level 4 Instructors. It's called the Mountain Master - and it encompasses enerything - groomers, off piste, bumps, powder (when available), steep & deep etc. etc.
It's an all round ski improvement on all terrain.
http://www.dempseytours.com
The prices there already include accommodation & lift pass - so if you have your own, just email him on the "contact us" page - and ask him for prices just for the instruction part of the program.
Similar format to other programs, 1 video analysis day per week, wrap up and report cards on a friday whilst munching on snacks and drinks on a Friday.
Mike has been running this program for over 23 years, so it isn't a fly by night outfit.
Highly recommended!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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veeeight, Dempsey rocks, and the pros are great too. I had some of them on my Level II.
Snowy, Mr Snowy plowing, tee hee hee. THat i have to see.
YEp, i knew we would over lap in Feb/MArch - am looking forward to it.
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Robbie wrote:
Of course, i mean to do Extremely at a Robbie level, not a DF/Stuarth level!
Do they do 'Cautiously Extremely Canadian' courses????!!
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Well, they do take people from Level 4 up! COme join me on my cautiously extremely 
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Hmmm, just a couple of small glasses of vino, eh geetee, ??
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Robbie, small? Did I say small? I think you'll find I just said glasses.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Robbie, PS get back to your revising!!!
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Doh, skulks back off to her books
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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geetee, hee hee 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Robbie, durh blonde moment - I meant.....
Robbie, hee hee
(see, I know you're still here)
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geetee, started early today?
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You know it makes sense.
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doh, i thought you were just talking to yourself!!!!
Out of here now, exam starting in 2 hours.
Bye.
PS 3 SLEEPS!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Ok, umming and ahhing at the moment. DM looks good but Ski Esprit is $100 less per person and money is tight. Which way do we go?
And is it worth us booking in advance? Do these courses get filled up quickly? only 74 days left now...
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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nbt, The impression I got was that Ski Esprit is more about touring than teaching; DM is more about teaching than touring. And given DM is advertised on the quality of the coaches rather than cameraderie like Esprit...
(nb, I know they both teach and tour - I think it's emphasis - and the attitude of the others in the group)
And isn't the point of this thread that you're getting it half price that week (Or have you accounted for that?)
Because of the 1/2 price thing I've booked already - better safe than sorry...
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Robbie, how was the exam?
(actually - what was the exam?)
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nbt
Personally I try to do both Ski Esprit and Dave Murray when in Whistler but if you have to plump for only one and want to be in a more teaching environment then go for Dave Murray.......but I would still encourage you to try both !!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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It's looking like I'll be the only one doing any lessons, so I reckon I'll go for the DM. Reading the description, it seems that the DM course includes skis - is that right? Although I had a laugh at the EOSB race, not *really* sure that I fancy doing gate training on Pocket Rockets!
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Well this thread is probably in the wrong place but then again it was initially posted as a news feature so no matter.
I've read through this thread and I don't know why you are all upset as there was no malice in Easiski's initial comment.
If you are happy with your ski school then you will likely go back..
Easiski has taught many a person on this board and they do go back...
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nbt,
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it seems that the DM course includes skis - is that right?
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They have demo skis which you can pick up at their hut next to the Roundhouse. The idea isn't actually that they give you skis for the course; you're meant to have your own and they let you try out the demo skis for some of the time. If you get there early enough there shouldn't be a problem though in getting hold of a pair of demos. You then return them to the hut when you're finished with them.
What dates are you going to be doing the DM?
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We're out feb 25th - mar 11th. that probalby means I'll do the course on 6/7/8 march, as I reckon the previous week would be a shock to the system - need time to get my ski legs!
Ski wise, It's only the gate training that concerns me - but then again I reckon I put in a fairly respectable performance through the gates at EOSB considering I was on skis with a 92mm waist!
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Don't worry about the 'gate training' - I know what you mean though - I was a bit concerned that I wasn't ready for it
In reality it just means that there's 2 or 3 runs with some gates!!
It gets you thinking (and doing) more about angulation, it makes you plan your turns and demands that you control (not increase) your speed.
It's "just" another training tool - much like 1-legged skiing or skiing without poles...
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nbt, the gate training is really good fun - especially when one of the coaches gets you to follow him down the course and he's on twin tips. Isn't that right Robbie? However, if it's been snowing then you might not even do 1 gate run during the whole course. It depends on the conditions.
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