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We are going to be landing in Munich at about 6am on an overnight flight from the Far East next Easter, picking up a car and then heading down towards the Stubai Valley. I've never done this trip before and I want to know if anyone can recommend a good characterful place to stop about halfway down for breakfast that's not too far off the Autobahn. Any tips gratefully received!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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dean350, there are some good places actually at the airport which may suit you better. I can recommend a couple of places off the main routes but whether you'd want to drop off into unknown territory after an overnight flight is the question. Plus it depends on which day of the week you are arriving - many laces do a Brunch, but not breakfast as English/Americans know it.
Do you have a route planned yet? There are some nice places just off the A95 (Munich - Garmisch) and in Garmisch itself there are plenty of places that just may be open before 09.00am. going along the A8 route, you may have to come quite a way off the route to find some characterful places that are open.
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We always stop at the first petrol station after the border with Austria (about 5 or 10k in) for a quick break and something to eat and buy a vinette which you will need to get to drive on the Austrian motorway.
It is nothing special, just a small cafe but it serves a purpose.
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you'll need to stop for that vignette before the border now
nice services though
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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andy, Are they getting strict on that? I have probably stopped there circa 40 times, would be a shame to break the tradition.
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yes. vignette required from the border. and before they changed the rule, the most you could do is take the 1st turn off anyway.
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I live in Germany the last couple of years and as they said, the things are more "hard"....they want to have a vignette before you cross the borders.
That was a big matter one year ago, between Austrian and Bayern territory...but didnt hear anything new from that time...
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We have tended to buy the vignette in advance by post in recent years when going to Austria - after a bad experience going round and round in a town somewhere and seeming to miss the garage or wherever we were meant to be going to buy the vignette. Megamum posted a very useful link on here for buying them in advance - we do similar when we need to replace the Swiss one.
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Every single service area between Munich airport and whichever border crossing you use sells the vignette, plus they are sold actually at the border in the Vorarlberg (Western Austria) and Walserberg (Salzburg). You can't miss the places as there are bloody great big signs saying in several languages that the vignette is sold here. It is easy to buy as practically everyone who has face-to-face dealings with the travelling public speaks English. If you are OCD buy in advance but it seems one hell of a faff for such a small amount and such an easily obtainable item.
I've lived in the "kleine deutsche Eck" (as the Austrians call my neck of the woods) for nearly 20 years, I've seen service areas come and go (Only Kiefersfelden left along the Rosenheim/Kufstein section) and only those who leave the purchase to the last minute may have to queue at the counter at the border. The longest I've queued in the Salzburg crossing at Walserberg (I was in someone else's car) was 15 minutes.
To go back to the OP: you can travel down the A9/A99/A995 and then pick up the A95 Munich to Garmisch-Partenkirchen. On reaching the end of the autobahn at Eschenlohe you continue on the B2 following the signs to Innsbruck. This will take you past Mittenwald which would offer you a really good choice of Gasthöfe for a morning break as well as an interesting little walk around a really picturesque centre with gorgeously painted (murals) houses in the main drag. Alternatively there are a couple of places just off the road past Seefeld.
Using this route you do not need a vignette as you do not travel on any of the motorways or Schnellstrasse to which the tolls apply. Be carefu coming out of innsbruck to go up to Stubaital as the short section of motorway to Schonberg carries an extra toll as well. Using the ordinary roads does not incur any extra payments.
JimboS, you'd have been in trouble this last weekend with your strategy; they were stopping ALL the cars (not trucks) and fining everyone who thought they did not need a vignette or believed that they could pick one up later! The reason you got away with it before is that certain sections of motorway were exempt to allow local traffic to be able to access towns with the motorway due to problems with the alternatives (notably the tunnels around Bregenz and the river crossing at Kufstein). These are now no longer a problem and the opening of the Pfändertunnel (Bregenz) last winter meant the exceptions were lifted on December 1st 2013.
Last edited by You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net. on Tue 8-07-14 10:16; edited 1 time in total
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I've been checked 3x this year out of a total of 4 return trips. Twice coming from Kufstein, the other at Pfander. Entire autobahn routed through a check.
For a whopping €8.50 (that would be paid anyway, unless chancing it for the 1st turn off only), is it worth the risk? (think the fine is something like €100 plus a vignette if it's missing, or double if it's tampered with or not stuck on properly).
I tend to pick mine up at Holzkirchen services, mainly because (a) it's not Irschenberg services (which if busy means merging back into a truck convoy right at the summit of a steep hill, with a slip road not much longer than my car, and (b) they sell them in the restaurant.
The only inconvenience is if you need fuel, you'd stop 2x or pay more (PS the first autobahn stop in Austria is a rip off), but coming from Munich, that's unlikely.
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Samerberg Sue, Presuming this new rule still only applies for motorway use? If I was going along the A8 to Siegsdorf and then off along the Lofer - Saalfelden route I'd still not need one, or has that changed too?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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robboj, Ignore the "news" it is nowhere near being law yet! Currently the route you use for Zell via Siegsdorf does not require a vignette either for Austria or Germany.
IF (and it's a big if) it is introduced, then it applies to ALL roads. That is included so that the parallel routes do not get clogged with toll dodgers. 
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Samerberg Sue, OK, looks like time to find a new stopping place.
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You know it makes sense.
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Gosh, never been described as OCD before but it certainly didn't seem like a faff just to get it in advance, couple of clicks on the internet. We were driving into Austria from Switzerland that time round.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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