 Poster: A snowHead
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What are the best gloves? By that I mean those which keep hands warm. I bought a pair of North Face Decibel's, and they are crap! Even on warm days my hands would get cold after a run, I assume from windchill. I guess their HyVent material isn't properly windproof. Okay, I know that they are not top of the range, but for 60 quid I'd expect better. Luckily I had my tatty old pair of Hestras with me, which I went back to.
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Tue 6-04-04 14:41; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I find that layering works well. Fleece inners and thicker, waterproof outers (these may need to be a size bigger than normal). Each can be worn on their own in certain conditions.
Two interesting ideas that I haven't tried but have seen, are mittens that convert to fingerless gloves undoing a flap (mittens are warmer than gloves) and some that have a zip on the thumb so you can use it without taking your gloves off - not warmer as such when skiing but may help in that they're rarely removed. Erm, can't help on the makes as I can't remember tham, sorry.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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A good hat or helmet will also keep your hands warmer. (sorry, I mean wearing it on your head - as this is where you lose most of your body heat)
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I have also used hand warmers in particularly cold times (I tend to keep a pair of disposable ones permanently in my ski coat when I'm out there, just in case). They are not perfect but they are great if you've had to take your gloves off for some reason, and they do have a noticeable effect.
I was trying to work out whether they worked best in the palm or on the back of the hand (not sure where the blood that flows *to* the fingers flows closest), but didn't have enough cold days to try for sure. Maybe one of resident medical experts could advise? 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I second both skanky and WTFH's points. I'm always saying to the kids "If you want warm hands; wear a hat!". I use inner gloves when it gets cold. Silk ones super coz with them on you can take your hand out of the gloves for intricate actions (take a photo) without your fingers immediately freezing solid.
The best gloves I have found are Boarder-type gloves such as Level (levelgloves.com).
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You had the best already, Hestras. Mine have lasted me since last Feb' and look good for a while yet.
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Referring to Handwarmers
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| I was trying to work out whether they worked best in the palm or on the back of the hand (not sure where the blood that flows *to* the fingers flows closest) |
Good question. The arterial supply to the fingers runs mainly along the front of the forearm and hand, but precisely where to put the warmers would make an interesting project for our next Belle Plagne Anaesthetic Meeting. I might get my Nobe Prize after all 
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"Nobe"? Should I ask? 
Okay, so the ones at the back of the hand is taking the blood away?
Maybe they should be strapped to the wrist?
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xyzpaul, I have a pair of Swanys that do the trick for me (they include an inner fleese glove). I agree with Wear The Fox Hat, too, though: make sure you're wearing a hat (and keeping your "core" warm) if your hands are getting cold.
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skanky, Sorry for the mispelling. It should have read "Nobby Prize" - similar to the Nobel, but without the money, medal or ceremony.
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Ah, that makes sense now 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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My Hestras are lovely. To hot to wear them in Courchevel this year though! Lent a friend one of my spare pair only to have them coming back smelling like a badger's backside. Guess those ones aren't breatheable then!!
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Anyone come across hard shell protective gloves? A guy at our club broke his thumb again, I can't afford to follow his example.
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You know it makes sense.
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Level do snowboarding gloves that have an insert to prevent wrsit injuries when you catch an edge (having tried it I can vouvh that if you're travelling, there's no time to brace for impact - one minute you;re nice, the next you;re on the ground wioth not even enough breath to moan)
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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MartinH, your mate Dan Botham is a skier, so I presume you are too, and the injury you are trying to avoid is "Skiers Thumb" . Those wonderful Level Gloves (I have a pair) will prevent Boarder Wrist injuries (similar to the ice skating unjury featured later in the article), but will not help with damage to the thumb.
Various clever gloves have been marketed, uncluding some with the thumb and forefinger tips fixed together. I am not sure there is any evidence any of these devices work.
As all the articles suggest (and there are many: just Google "ski thumb injury") the advice seems to be keep your wrist out of the straps and get lessons on how to fall.
If loss of income is a real problem, you can insure against this.
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I can recommend the kevglove from www.pmgearusa.com - great value, strong construction. Mine are warmer than the £90 Mammut goretex gloves with fleece liners I had before.
The company was started but some people on a US ski forum. Not bad 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| masopa wrote: |
| My Hestras are lovely. To hot to wear them in Courchevel this year though! Lent a friend one of my spare pair only to have them coming back smelling like a badger's backside. Guess those ones aren't breatheable then!! |
I find the inners from Hestra too hot most of the time, I've switched mine. It's the shell that's so good for the Hestra's anyway.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Jonpim, I have never fallen on my thumb (I'm sure skiing since the age of 4 has much to do with it) but the thought of it scares me. Music is not just a job to me, being unable to play would be almost as bad as being unable to ski.
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MartinH, what do you play? Take up something that can be played without your thumb.....er like......trumpet!
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Elizabeth B, good idea, though I can't really spare 10,000 hours to learn another instrument to that level. Perhaps a triangle...
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MartinH, triangles can be difficult to play. Why not start out with something geometrically simpler, like a circle.
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Fux-Up, You have to make sure the triangle is the right way up, can be tricky...
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You sure a circle is geometrically simpler? It may look simpler, but geometrically...? What with Pi and all that? I think it's easier to play the bar, meself.
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Pi and chips come after the gig. Beer in the interval, if you want to hang out with the brass section.
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That's a bit bold of them 
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They will go bold if you keep polishing them
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