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Some companies have been showing a strong growth this year, others have seen things remain steady despite the conditions and a late easter. Could the snowsports industry finally be turning the corner after the decline throughout the recession and whatnot?

http://www.powpowpow.org/has-the-snowsports-industry-turned-the-corner/
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Has there been much of a decline??
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http://www.planetski.eu/news/5119

The FIS launched World Snow Day to combat the year on year drop in skiing participants:

http://skiracing.com/stories/fis-hopes-world-snow-day-will-combat-participation-decline/

Also, the Crystal Report in July showed a growth for the first time in 4 years
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Damm - that just means it will be even busier
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It's all downhill...
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This in direct contradiction to CdA who operate 14 resorts who saw a 4.7% reduction in skier days overall.

http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=110554&highlight=

I smell cowdoo somewhere
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boredsurfin, from their own half year figures.

http://www.compagniedesalpes.com/amf_en/CDA%20CA%20S1%202013-2014%20English%20version.pdf

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overall activity for the FY is expected to be on balance. This must be put into perspective after two years of strong growth. This solid business level testifies to Ski areas' resilience in an unfavorable context characterized by increased VAT, unfavorable European school vacation schedules and poor weather conditions in the second quarter.


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boredsurfin, nah - lots of people taking their grandparents for childcare - so more people going - less skiers
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Boris, From another part of the report huge growth in peak weeks but naff all in low season. So it's you lot with school age kids that are increasing the tour ops profits paying those school holiday prices Toofy Grin and as you say taking MiL for the Nanny.
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Boris, the answer is to go out of school holidays and to somewhere off the tour ops "big names" lists. Then you get lots of nice quiet pistes.
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There was lots of scaremongering about early season avalanche conditions, also about your guide or instructor possibly being arrested and not much snow to write home about... I think the press has a lot to do with ski resort business and particularly last minute bookings due to weather. I wish the press would help about a bit more, 1 negative article is probably worth about 10 positive ones in terms of social media and hype.
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I think the press has sweet FA to do with ski business having a good bad or indifferent year. Likewise avy conditions or Michael Schumacher. School hol schedules, general consumer confidence and limpics would seem to have more to do with general skier visits.
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Dave of the Marmottes, External factors do seem to influence our sales. Last autumn we did a roaring trade in off-piste equipment, which tailed off with the reports of dangerous snow conditions in December and never really got going at the same level again. On the other hand, helmet sales went up dramatically after poor Schumi's accident. I know some of the ski schools in Tignes also saw people switch courses from off-piste to all-mountain on the back of the snow stability stories. Don't get me wrong, I think it's right that worries about conditions are publicised (although in some quarters of the press I think the response was over-dramatic- no surprise there), I'm just making the point that in our experience it affects consumer behaviour.
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pam w, indeed, but will have to compromise on Easter. Regardless of the regs I'm not sure would take kids out of sec school for week
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Boris, Easter is a pretty reasonable bet - cheap (given that you drive and accommodation is at low season rates) and quiet. It's just a long time to wait!
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pam w wrote:
Boris, Easter is a pretty reasonable bet - cheap (given that you drive and accommodation is at low season rates) and quiet. It's just a long time to wait!


Which is why we tend to do Christmas and Easter!
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It's just a long time to wait!


tell me about it Sad

As we had Christmas last year, it is extremely unlikely that both Mrs B and myself will be allowed that week again this year - has to be shared out amongst others.
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
I think the press has sweet FA to do with ski business having a good bad or indifferent year. Likewise avy conditions or Michael Schumacher. School hol schedules, general consumer confidence and limpics would seem to have more to do with general skier visits.


I am quite convinced that the press has a lot to do with our bookings. As does snow fall. Even when it's effectively irrelevant. e.g. we get a rash (?) of bookings when it snows, even when the actual travel dates are months away. This year we had very few last minutes as the perception was that the snow wasn't good. I didn't get to ski a lot of powder to be fair but very few of our clients (and we are in Chamonix) want anything other than blue skies and well manicured pistes. Which all of them would have got all season (maybe not the blue skies).
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feef wrote:
Some companies have been showing a strong growth this year, others have seen things remain steady despite the conditions and a late easter. Could the snowsports industry finally be turning the corner after the decline throughout the recession and whatnot?

http://www.powpowpow.org/has-the-snowsports-industry-turned-the-corner/


Most of the companies discussed do other things as well as skiing or skiing equipment. It isn't a worthwhile analysis.
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pam w,
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Boris, the answer is to go out of school holidays and to somewhere off the tour ops "big names" lists. Then you get lots of nice quiet pistes.


No, really?? Not heard you say that before Very Happy
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kat.ryb, yes, I don't know why I do, really. Call it sheer altruism. I should just pipe down and enjoy the quiet pistes.
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