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I have a very painful shoulder, started from when I was knocked of my bike (landing on my head and shoulder) in 2004. It has been nigerly ever since, but this last year it has been getting worse and worse so I have been back to the doctors yet again, as now my movement is really limited and I am constantly waking in the big due to the pain. She referred me for an ultrasound which I had this morning but she couldn't complete it due to find a calcium build up which prevented her seeing what she was trying to check, and she then sent me for an X-ray.
I am (still) waiting for the consultant referral to come through, in the meantime has anybody experienced anything similar, and have any advice especially in how to stop it hurting as painkillers aren't touching the pain.
Thanks
Oh and just in case any body wanted to know, I was wearing a helmet 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Do you know it isn't t the calcium that is causing the pain? I had a shoulder problem that an X-ray found was a calcium build up. What an x ray can't tell is whether it is still building up or breaking up and going away. The only time ultra sound was involved was when it was used to guide a targeted steroid jab. Within 5 mins the pain had gone never to return.
On a slightly different note it is stuff like this where insurance comes into its own (there was thread running fairly recently on the pro's and con's of insurance) by getting consultant advice and treatment quickly.
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NickyJ, I have a similar problem and my doc is considering something called "Stoßwellen-Therapie" which sounds horrendous but I think it involves some kind of sonic pulse to break up the calcification. I watched a report on it here on TV the other day and it seems it is gaining support. Sadly it is only on offer to those with private insurance at the moment so I'll have to wait until it becomes mainstream before I can try it.
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| ian999 wrote: |
On a slightly different note it is stuff like this where insurance comes into its own (there was thread running fairly recently on the pro's and con's of insurance) by getting consultant advice and treatment quickly. |
Except this accident happened before I had any private health care and when I did have some they always excluded my shoulder, as a pre-existing condition.
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| ian999 wrote: |
Do you know it isn't t the calcium that is causing the pain? I had a shoulder problem that an X-ray found was a calcium build up. What an x ray can't tell is whether it is still building up or breaking up and going away. The only time ultra sound was involved was when it was used to guide a targeted steroid jab. Within 5 mins the pain had gone never to return.
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The comment of the lady doing the ultrasound implied that the calcium build was caused by the underlying issue that I have had since the bike accident
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Samerberg Sue, interesting.
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I found those links via a google. Interesting though they don't mention it being triggered by an impact injury.
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My OH had calcium on both shoulders (when he came home the first time with this news the boys said that "Dad's turning into a fossil"). He had them manipulated under a general anaesthetic. There was a long NHS waiting list when he was waiting for the first one to be done. Then on the advice of a friend he tried some acupuncture which turned the chronic condition acute. His left shoulder was so bad he couldn't hold a loaf steady to cut a slice, he certainly couldn't drive - basically he couldn't do anything and was in a lot of pain. So he shot up the waiting list - result! And a lot cheaper than going private.  I think he had the two done; as soon as one got better the other went the same way. The whole thing took about 4 years.
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pam w, thankfully my left arm is fine, which is why driving is just about possible. It is getting more and more difficult to do things like washing my hair now though. 
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NickyJ, here's a link to an English language explanation about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extracorporeal_shockwave_therapy
It seems to be gaining credence here at least for treatment of kidney stones amongst other things, but the news report I watched was specifically about the treatment of calcifications causing tendinitis in the shoulder which is what I've got. It follows on from a number of full and partial dislocations over the years.
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| Samerberg Sue wrote: |
NickyJ, here's a link to an English language explanation about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extracorporeal_shockwave_therapy
It seems to be gaining credence here at least for treatment of kidney stones amongst other things, but the news report I watched was specifically about the treatment of calcifications causing tendinitis in the shoulder which is what I've got. It follows on from a number of full and partial dislocations over the years. |
Hmmm does look very interesting and looks like a few places are offering it, certainly privately. Time to make few calls and find out what the cost is. It certainly sound much better than surgery.
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pam w, that must be the first time I've heard of acupuncture having a clinical significance! Most excellent!
Samerberg Sue, lithotripsy is fairly standard treatment for kidney stones (although I understand the immediate after effects can be quite tender...)
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You know it makes sense.
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under a new name, I'm aware of the kidney stone treatment's acceptance which is why I don't understand my health insurer's non-acceptance of it as a viable non-surgical alternative treatment. I'm insured with one of the major German government health insurance schemes (gesetzliche Krankenkasse) and mine is known to be one of the more generous and open-minded ones. If they don't support it, then I'm pretty sure most of the other main players here don't. The German Wiki page implies that as well.
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NickyJ, your "impact injury" may have brought the problem to your attention, but the process had probably been going on for some time before that.
Samerberg Sue, be very careful of any treatment available "privately" but not available on the NHS, especially if the doctors concerned do not work in the NHS as well.
Many private clinics are out to make money rather than solve clinical problems.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Jonpim, my impact injury was in 2004. 10 years ago. It left me with a niggly shoulder ever since. It is this last year where it has got worse. I have absolutely no issues with my left shoulder. I am only 38 yrs old.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| NickyJ wrote: |
I have a very painful shoulder, started from when I was knocked of my bike (landing on my head and shoulder) in 2004. It has been nigerly ever since, but this last year it has been getting worse and worse so I have been back to the doctors yet again, as now my movement is really limited and I am constantly waking in the big due to the pain. She referred me for an ultrasound which I had this morning but she couldn't complete it due to find a calcium build up which prevented her seeing what she was trying to check, and she then sent me for an X-ray.
I am (still) waiting for the consultant referral to come through, in the meantime has anybody experienced anything similar, and have any advice especially in how to stop it hurting as painkillers aren't touching the pain.
Thanks
Oh and just in case any body wanted to know, I was wearing a helmet |
May be worth getting a steroid injection, if that fails then sometimes surgery can be helpful.
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Well had the steroid injection yesterday time will tell.
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hope that's successful, NickyJ. Those shoulder things are very unpleasant.
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Well it gave some relief, I have had a few weeks of being able to slep which has been great but Annoyingly it is wearing off already and I am sat here in agony
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