Little clip I put together to take the pee out of my mate from a recent trip.
My video and sound lay over skills are in their infancy so the filler (when I'm collecting the skis) is a bit long/annoying-OK some will probably find it ALL annoying....
The sound layover might be a bit lost on most but it comes from the other clip that I always find amusing.
This happened on the last day, you'll see my mate appear on the right in blue straight lining it then pooing himself and trying to scrub the speed off before going back bottom over tit. He's a great bloke (when he's not skiing) but he generally skis far too fast on piste for his ability and the amount of traffic so he's lucky to have not done anyone else or himself any damage.
This is the Mont Vallon red-if you take a left at the top and this was pretty close to the bottom.
Ha ha that clips absolute carnage! Particularly like when it pans the the person face down.....
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Get them both lessons, especially the kid. The kid shouldn't be on a run of any length until he can stay in control and stop safely. And he doesn't need poles.
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I still look at Mont Vallon and wonder if it's still beyond me. I understand that both reds off the top are long and robustly steep and often mogulled. Given that there is no snaking blue path that I could jump to (i.e. once you go for them you are committed) I've always given them a miss so far.
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Was it just last week that Ministers were proposing to make emotional cruelty to children a crime? Suggesting that an out of control beginner on a red run should "do a pizza" is sheer idiocy.
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Bene, the other clip is far from amusing . It's been posted on SH's previously and what I'd like to do the idiot screaming at the kid isn't repeatable.
You know it makes sense.
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Megamum wrote:
I still look at Mont Vallon and wonder if it's still beyond me. I understand that both reds off the top are long and robustly steep and often mogulled. Given that there is no snaking blue path that I could jump to (i.e. once you go for them you are committed) I've always given them a miss so far.
I've seen your videos. Having done both sides a few times I reckon you'd get down without any serious injuries
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Megamum wrote:
I still look at Mont Vallon and wonder if it's still beyond me. I understand that both reds off the top are long and robustly steep and often mogulled. Given that there is no snaking blue path that I could jump to (i.e. once you go for them you are committed) I've always given them a miss so far.
Megamum, I love the runs of Vallon. My understanding us you are a good skier, so they shouldn't be beyond you if I am right. Do them before coffee or the latest before lunch and they should be fine. They provide the most amazing views.
From the top, the one off to the right has a steep top section but rounds the corner and flattens off for a few yards. It fluctuates between steepish and not. It can get busy. It's very long and magnificent. One of my fave pistes in the alpes. You are missing a treat.
The one off to the left is steepish at the top , but is also a narrow path. After the first 200yds it opens out and is neither steep or narrow and I have rarely seen another person on it.
If you can do reds you can do these. Have fun.
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swiftoid, NE1, 'Good' is probably over playing it IMV. I think I can probably ski most pisted reds now and I have done some fairly steep shorter sections (i.e. top section of Portette - there is also a steep bit in just over the top down into Wagrain in Austria on one of reds there), but I am not confident when faced with more challenging snow conditions (i.e. more than minor soft mounds) on steeper slopes. That isn't 'good' in my book, I reckon I'm a solid 6 on the Inside Out scale. From what you put it sounds like I might be OK earlier in the morning, particularly if I took my time and maybe made sure I had got a bit fitter as it is a long run. Maybe I will be ready for a try the next time I'm in the 3V's
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Oh my God the guy filming the second vid is an absolute dick. I hope to God its the kid's stupid teenage brother and not his father...
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Maybe I will be ready for a try the next time I'm in the 3V's
I don't think you'd have any problem - just finish the turns to avoid picking up too much speed and revert to the trusted sideslip for any bits that look too horrible. That's my strategy, anyway!
Humpfknick, you're right. And I think using the cries of that very distressed child, just for a laugh, is despicable. Maybe I'm hyper-sensitive tonight....
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pam w, no I agree, it turned my stomach!! The poor kid was genuinely terrified, he was lucky not to split his pelvis going at that speed with no control...
I really enjoyed the Mt Vallon runs. The one to the left always seemed much quieter-I guess from the Gondola what you see at the top looks narrow-cat track like to start with? The right had run is pretty epic but was pretty busy. The first pitch is pretty steep and I witnessed quite a few people walking back up?! A good thigh burner to try and do in one go.
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Kids love speed, but at a young age they also have no comprehension of risks involved. That's where we as parents come in. The first thing we did when our son started skiing at 3 was ensured he always turned, drummed into him to always be in control, a good skier is not a fast skier. As time went on we would let him loose a little but he was always sternly reminded anytime he was out of control even slightly. Now at 6 I would say he is very much in control, might ski fast but can stop or avoid when he needs to, ok there was a couple of moments last week where he nearly wiped out one of our group coz he saw a jump and thought I'm going there, but again he was told off. We had a holiday a holiday a few years ago, wee one was just about to turn 4, there was an American family in the hotel. We saw the boy, a year or so older than ours, and his dad on the slope one day. The boy was just kinda tearing it down the hill, not really any control should there be another skier or obstacle. I think the father thought he was doing well, until he saw our son.( and us prob shouting about control!) ...then he realised that actually his son had no control. Next day we saw a different father....
Ok I think I'm a bit off topic!
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Gilly28, You're my sort of parent - my kids have done every sport they have with proper discipline. It ensures that everything is done safely and enjoyed. As you say kids have no conception of what can happen. Once they understand their sport and have obtained the necessary control then they can be allowed a bit of leeway to experiment - mine are 11 and 14 and have been allowed to ski by themselves on parts of the mountain for the last two years, but not before that - they go much faster than I do, but they do have the skills to deal with it and I have never seen them out of control. The kid in that video had been put on a mountain he didn't have the skills to deal with. He was lucky he appeared only cold and scared rather than seriously injured, but it could so easily have been worse and it could have put him off skiing for life. Damn idiotic parent if you ask me and should not be admired or used for a laugh by anyone IMO
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swiftoid, NE1, 'Good' is probably over playing it IMV. I think I can probably ski most pisted reds now and I have done some fairly steep shorter sections (i.e. top section of Portette - there is also a steep bit in just over the top down into Wagrain in Austria on one of reds there), but I am not confident when faced with more challenging snow conditions (i.e. more than minor soft mounds) on steeper slopes. That isn't 'good' in my book, I reckon I'm a solid 6 on the Inside Out scale. From what you put it sounds like I might be OK earlier in the morning, particularly if I took my time and maybe made sure I had got a bit fitter as it is a long run. Maybe I will be ready for a try the next time I'm in the 3V's
Megamum, as a 6 you will be ok( I thought you were about 9). There are lots of places to stop, do it about 10-11ish and you will head straight back for another go wondering what all the fuss was about 😀. Yeah there are some tough bits but they are doable. I reckon I'm a 7. Just take your time and enjoy.
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Megamum,
From your videos you'd be fine on Mont Vallon. Combe de Vallon is my favourite piste anywhere. The only tricky part is the very top and that does have a path to avoid the most awkward part.
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Poor little kid. What a complete idiot.
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Whoever came up with the phrase 'do a pizza' should be shot.
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Is the pizza just a north american phrase? First time I heard it was on South Park.....
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No, you try explaining the physics of snow ploughing to a three year old.
Three yr olds like pizza so its pretty simple.
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agree - not a good idea. But "pizza" is not the only alternative. Instructors in France shout "chasse-neige" - or "snow plough" (with a nice French accent) for an English speaking child. Or "skis parallel". My four year old grand-daughter knew perfickly well what "parallel" means but I doubt she'd have known what a "French fry" was. She calls them "chips" . After her ski lesson, a few years ago, she kept shouting "snow plough Leeeeeely" in a good imitation of her instructor, whose English was fairly minimal. But this was on a very gentle slope and the instructor was very attentive and would have scooped her up long before her speed became remotely dangerous. I was following with a camera and noted that the instructor skied a little behind her, watching out for speeding skiers from behind. Lily had noted that too. She said proudly "I went faster than the instructor, did you see? She got left behind!".
A successful lesson!
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The true phrase is "Make like a pizza"
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After the first half minute, I'd had enough. Reminds me of people who get their snowploughing kids to go down the black run Valentin at LDA.
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Lack of control skiers seems far more common these days, just like driving a sports car if you don't know how to control things, turn, stop etc. you WILL have an accident, how serious is down to luck as much as anything.
People who are out of control are a risk to themselves and everyone around them, the worst are those who are not happy to go down the big slopes but are being pushed to do so by parents, relatives or occasionally boyfriends
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pam w, My son's first lesson on snow was at Xscape when they developed a Penguin Club for little ones and he was in the inaugural class (aged 3).
They decided that to get the kids interested they would spend a few sessions playing about with skis and on the very shallow slopes so to make it fun pizza and chips were used.
Am I bothered that after a few days in the mountains he sped off shouting "chiiiiiiiiiips"? No, quite the opposite.
homers double, it's lovely to see little ones enjoying themselves on the slope, whatever they are shouting!
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NE1, level 9!!! I wish I was!! jedster, that sounds like the sort of path they had at the top of the red run - Arandeliers on Aiguille rouge in Les Arcs, I looked long and hard at the first 50 yards which is part of the black and ditched it in favour of the path. I think I then ran the red from top to bottom in the finish, and was dead chuffed to have managed it especially as it was about 3 years ago and there are places where it meets the black and I know I actually skied the black side of the piste at some points.
.........OK some will probably find it ALL annoying....
I'm in that group, Dude
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Perhaps it's because I am an adult, but the phrase 'make like a pizza always baffles me for a moment when I hear it (once in a blue moon on here for example)' in my book pizzas are circles, it is actually a pizza wedge that is the shape which is being encouraged and I generally do a double take whilst I make that connection. Daft phrase IMO, my kids didn't learn pizza and chips, they learned snow plough and parallel (and started to ski at age 3) and did quite fine.
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meh...
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Well go you and your fancy souther phrases, I'm quite sure their private education and math lessons are far more advanced than those up gottty north.
The chips appear to be on the shoulder. What made you think that Megamum's kids go to private school?
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Pizza is much easier to say than snow-plough, and in the US it's not a snow-plough in any case, it's a wedge....... so pizza wedge makes perfect sense. We all know that most pizza is round(ish) to start with, but little kids don't really see it like that since many only ever see the slice they get to eat. Once they've been taught that the shape their skis make to slow and stop is called a pizza, they know what we're talking about. Since nearly every kids ski school uses the term it's really hard to use something else.
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. It's been posted on SH's previously and what I'd like to do the idiot screaming at the kid isn't repeatable.
