 Poster: A snowHead
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So Mrs rungsp and I are off to Japan to see The Lad for two weeks tomorrow, having driven back from Switz' yesterday.
On saturday Mrs rungsp took an akward fall, her first of the season.
She screamed in pain and took a long time to get up.
Badly torn lower hamstring, and suspected meniscus (spelling?) damage in her left knee.
After much agonising (!) she has decided to come anyway, but on crutches and with very little prospect of skiing.
"I'd be bored at home on my own, the money is spent, I might as well be bored there"
Stoic attitude, but such a shame 
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Fri 28-02-14 10:59; edited 1 time in total
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No! That is a shame. Quite a different experience in Hirafu compared to Verbier, so not all is lost. Try to get to the Yo restaurant in Hurry Slowly for an amazing Japanese meal. Needs to be booked at least a couple of days in Advance.
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Sorry to hear that rungsp!
+1 for Hurry Slowly and please tell Stef I send my best wishes.
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that's a real shame for her. Fingers crossed she feels better in time to ski. On a positive note, Mrs NBT fell and tore her hamstring on day 1 of a two week trip to Canada some years ago, and while she was on crutches for a few days she did get back on skis before the end of the two week trip.
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rungsp, ouch... another thumbs up for Hurry Slowly and the Korean joint is good for a quick meal. I would also get up to the Boyo So (sp) hut up on the hill, not sure if accessable with crutches though... The Fridge bar is great and there is a jam session at a jazz bar that is worth taking in as well. I am sure Jnr. is well versed in the local scene though 
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I snapped my Achilles just after booking a holiday for myself and two young children and arrived at the report on crutches and spent the week looking after children. I did think about standing outside a ski shop to see if they would pay me to go away. 
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rungsp, on the plus side she should be able to enjoy the long list of onsens in the area! The one near Moiwa and the really old school (100+ year old) ones being my favourites. There is also always the prospect of visiting Otaru/Sapporo for a day trip to avoid the Aussies! Best of luck with the healing
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That really sucks, but as mentioned she should enjoy the onsens at least!
Tip tip: If you have any time to kill (or need somewhere to sleep) at Chitose Airport, the onsen/spa area there is great!
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physio visit today, our first day, and bad news.
Mrs rungsp has ruptured her ACL...it is a gonner
Told us that at her age, early 50s, reconstruction is not really an option.
Stay fit, stay light, get stronger...and wear a brace for sports.
Obviously we will get a second opinion in th UK on return, but all a bit shiity really....
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rungsp, definitely get a second opinion. Hopefully Jonathon_Bell may drop a line. I guess I can't comment as my reconstruction was when I was 29, but I am sure I know of people who have had reconstructions in there early 50's.
i presume she is fit and active? In which case there is a LOT of damage which can be done subsequent to an ACL rupture (or even after a partially damaged ACL reconstruction as you can see from my posts).
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rungsp, no way would i be accepting no reconstruction based on early fifties. Get referred to a consultant and I'm sure he/she will want to do what they are best at and get things fixed, they are surgeons after all and like nothing better than mending stuff (always assuming they confirm the diagnosis).
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rungsp, That sounds balls to me...ACL/PCL reconstructions are done way into your 60's in preference to a full knee reconstruction nowadays...did she have an MRI or is this just your physios McMurray test results??
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You know it makes sense.
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Oh no, really bad luck for you both. Sorry to hear it.
One of my companions (female age 53) from the last holiday snapped her ACL and damaged her meniscus. She had private health insurance and had it repaired at once in St Anton.
On the other hand, another friend snapped his ACL when he was 62 and has skied the 5 years since without one (fast and mostly off piste).
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rungsp, I had my last reconstruction done when I was 58. It is not a question of age, it is a question of quality of life; your Mrs is very active and continuing with that level of activity relying just on a brace is going to lead to further damage unless she wears it 24/7. Wearing it just for the sporting activity is comprise that could lead to having further damage due to the instability in the joint.
Do get a second opinion when you get home, Jonathan_Bell recently said on here that age should not be a factor in not having a reconstruction. My surgeon's view was if the knee is in good condition (other than the busted ACL that is!), having the reconstruction will help keep it that way and put off the need for a total knee replacement.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| rungsp wrote: |
Told us that at her age, early 50s, reconstruction is not really an option.
Obviously we will get a second opinion in th UK on return, but all a bit shiity really.... |
Bulls**t -
a) that's a clinical decision not in the hands of a physio
b) I'd be changing physio if that was the outlook they had becasue it suggests they don't really understand activity levels in people
You can manage without an ACL - I did for a number of years based on muscle bulk and strength alone, but ultimately it wasn't activities that made me have a recon but the fact I was limping on steps and probably eroding cartillage fast.
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rungsp, Good luck to Mrs rungsp, on my visit to Niseko many years ago there was quite a lot to do and see other than skiing.
I fell and tore a hamstring on day 1 of my most recent ski trip and still enjoyed the holiday, fortunately for me it was not an ACL.
Hope you both have a great time.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| rungsp wrote: |
Told us that at her age, early 50s, reconstruction is not really an option.
Obviously we will get a second opinion in th UK on return, but all a bit shiity really.... |
Bulls**t -
a) that's a clinical decision not in the hands of a physio
b) I'd be changing physio if that was the outlook they had becasue it suggests they don't really understand activity levels in people
You can manage without an ACL - I did for a number of years based on muscle bulk and strength alone, but ultimately it wasn't activities that made me have a recon but the fact I was limping on steps and probably eroding cartillage fast. |
Think this is right, an ACL can definitely be reconstructed in a fit 50ish year old. There are pros and cons, but need to get her into the hands (and possibly MRI scanner) of an orthopaedic surgeon
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I am 59 and ruptured my ACL in Breckenridge 3 weeks ago, as I have medical insurance I was able to see a consultant on Monday and will be having a reconstruction (using the hamstring) once I have built the muscle strength around my knee and the swelling has completely gone.
I know it will be a long slog after the operation to regain strength and mobility in the leg but I should be ready to ski by December and we intend to go back to Breckenridge in February as I only managed 3 days before my accident.
I am also going to take advice on powder skiing this time as having never skied in deep powder before was the cause of my accident
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(Mrs) rungsp and Steve.S, here's hoping for a trouble-free procedure and swift rehab.
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