Poster: A snowHead
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Firstly a bit of background!!
I am in Stuben (close to the St Anton area) with my family early April, and have just signed up for a BASI course in Morzine starting on Sunday 13th April.
Originally the whole family were planning to drive home to Leeds on Sunday 13th.
So I need to help my wife get through some of Europe by me doing the first stint of driving, but then get myself somewhere to get a train back to Geneva/Morzine...and get a transfer from Geneva airport to Morzine.
From a quick check on maps and trains etc I am planning to drive with the family to Strasbourg then get dropped off there and get a train back to Geneva airport. This means I do a 4 hour driving stint, so my wife doesn't have to do the whole lot of driving back to Leeds on her own.
Train costs around 75 euro and takes about 4hr 30 mins
Anyone got a better plan??
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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kitenski, drive a bit further and catch a flight to GVA?
If you didn't have to get togVA yourself, what route would you take normally?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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under a new name, we normally go up thru Germany, Holland, Belgium and avoid the French toll roads...
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kitenski, There's an EasyJ 08h10 flight from Brussels the morning of the 13th? Brussels Air quite often comes up with cheap connecting flights out of GVA. Otherwise, Starsbourg is probably your best bet. Your route manages to go through parts of Gemany that just are not easy to link into Geneva from. (I know from experience over the last few years).
You might find that it's easier to jump on a train at (say) Karlsruhe than detouring (and having to drive through) Strasbourg. SBB.ch suggesting 4h40 or 4h50 from Karlsruhe via Basel.
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You might find that it's easier to jump on a train at (say) Karlsruhe than detouring (and having to drive through) Strasbourg. SBB.ch suggesting 4h40 or 4h50 from Karlsruhe via Basel. |
thanks, will look into that.
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Karlsruhe is a lovely city and very easy to get around - you could practically walk across it in under an hour. At a guess though I would have thought Frankfurt would be a better connected city than Karlsruhe. For train timetables http://bahn.de is pretty good at showing everything in europe, even if you use another site to book.
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kitenski, I'd be tempted to fly EJ from either Brussels or Stansted to GVA.
Or could get a train from Lille/ Brussels to GVA?
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[quote="kieranm"]Karlsruhe is a lovely city and very easy to get around - you could practically walk across it in under an hour.
How come it took me more then an hour getting through it last summer coming home. Ive twice been caught there, once at 5/6 o`clock(never again) and Saturday at lunch time.
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Frankfurt would be a better connected city than Karlsruhe
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I don't think it is (to get to Geneva) and it's more of a detour. Karlsruhe is on route. (Also, flights from Frankfurt or Munich or Stuttgart are eye wateringly expensive into GVA.)
The problem with going much further North is that you're cutting into the family's holiday aren't you (i.e. you need to leave earlier to drive further to travel further to get back)?
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If you are going by train, then I think the nearest station to Morzine is Cluses. I expect you'd might end up going through Geneva either way, but there's a remote chance that Cluses is easier to get to (and then avoids the Geneva airport transfer). You seem to be able to get trains direct to Cluses from Paris for example.
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How come it took me more then an hour getting through it last summer coming home. Ive twice been caught there, once at 5/6 o`clock(never again) and Saturday at lunch time.
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I've never tried to go through it by car, but as a pedestrian it's great. This might explain why it's hard in a car!
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You know it makes sense.
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kieranm, getting from Cluses to Morzine is troblesome (infrequent buses). Train to Cluses is most certainly not direct from Paris. Need to change at least at Bellegarde. Much easier to get to Geneva airport and grab a transfer.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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yes the problem is the further north I go, the further I have to get back and I want to get to Morzine early evening at the latest.
The train from Karlsruhe is looking a good option and at under 50 euros fairly economical
I've looked at Cluses and Thonon Les Bains stations, both involve more train changes and longer times overall....
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Poster: A snowHead
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kitenski, I'd go for Karlsruhe. I don't see/can't think of anywhere else en route that balances what you need to do as well as it does.
If you're starting off there and it's near enough to lunchtime, there's an acceptable asian/noodle bar in the station
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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under a new name, fair enough - I've not done that journey so I'm not sure what is easiest for getting to Morzine. There are some direct trains from Paris to Cluses though, at least on Friday/Saturday/Sunday. There's even an overnight sleeper.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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kieranm, I stand corrected, there are indeed. Dead slow and stop for a TGV after (I guess) Bourg en Bresse. And only until April 25. I wonder how many transfer companies will pick up in Cluses then?
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ok, pushing some buttons....ending up on a German booking site
http://tinyurl.com/p5uz54l
Has me leaving Karlsruhe HBF at 11:10am, arrive Geneva Airport 15:51 with one change.
That change is at Basel SBB, I arrive 12:54 platform 5, next train departs Basel SBB at 13:30 from platform 14
anyone know if 9 mins if fine for the platform transfer? will have one wheelie bag and one pair of skis....
and secondly is that the best website to use for the booking???
and lastly the cheap price mentions combination and a BahnCard 25?? does that mean I need to buy this BahnCard??
Total price of the trip. Special conditions (e.g. use of specific train required, exchange/refund not possible or with extra charge). Combination only possible with BahnCard 25. You will receive the conditions of the offer in the next step
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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