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Hi there,
We are 2 intermediate skiers living in Grenoble for the moment. We have access to Chamrousse, 7 Laux, 2 Alpes, Alpe D'Huez, Villard de Lans on weekends. Could anyone suggest some black runs, particularly on 7 Laux or Alpe D'Huez to start with?
We do reds comfortably and just started doing some blacks with caution. We can come down a steep (as in the black Bellcombes, Fees of 2 Alpes) black run or a mogulled black run (as in the Plan du Pra of 7 Laux) one way or the other :0) , just not one that is steep and mogulled (as in Tunnel of Alpe D'Huez, i suppose o ).
Thanks a lot!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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The easiest black at les 7 laux is the Jasse accessed by the Pouta lift. For you avoid the Pas de Chien, one of the steepest pistes in the Alps and the Vallons de Pra and the Combe de Bedina. The rest of the blacks are easy but the Eveque isn't pisted.
At l'alpe d'Huez, for you, avoid the tunnel initially. Nothing particularly difficult about the other pistes but follow the sun as the runs can get very icy. That is, start on the east facing runs to finish the Oz side in the afternoon.
At Chamrousse the Casserouse is the only challenging piste, when it is open.
Some of the steepest slopes in the area are at the Col du Barioz ski area and in some of the small resorts (for example St Hilaire even though it only has reds). St Pierre has some good slopes and off piste too but there is not much snow this year.
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Mon 20-01-14 18:31; edited 1 time in total
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I remember La Fuma on the Auris side of ADH being quite tough. Might be one to test your progression on because it is less intimidating than the Tunnel but still quite steep and I remember it getting quite mogulled
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| davidof wrote: |
The easiest black at les 7 laux is the Jasse accessed by the Pouta lift. For you avoid the Pas de Chien, one of the steepest pistes in the Alps and the Vallons de Pra and the Combe de Bedina. The rest of the blacks are easy but the Eveque isn't pisted.
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Thank you both!
I thought the Eveque joins the Vallons du Pra eventually? When you say that I better avoid the Vallons du Pra and that I could try Eveque, do you mean that it is mostly the very top of Vallons du Pra with the variante that is difficult and one could do the lower part starting from Eveque? Is Eveque more difficult than Plan du Pra?
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themothandthestar, welcome to snowHeads 
Le Fare, down into Vaujany from L'Alpette (IIRC) is a great black run - reasonably wide and consistent (fabulous views too). Because Vaujany is fairly low (1250m) there can be coverage issues, so the piste isn't always open.
Someone mentioned, I think, that Combe Charbonniere is also reasonably challenging (a question of perspective, I suppose).
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| themothandthestar wrote: |
| davidof wrote: |
The easiest black at les 7 laux is the Jasse accessed by the Pouta lift. For you avoid the Pas de Chien, one of the steepest pistes in the Alps and the Vallons de Pra and the Combe de Bedina. The rest of the blacks are easy but the Eveque isn't pisted.
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Thank you both!
I thought the Eveque joins the Vallons du Pra eventually? When you say that I better avoid the Vallons du Pra and that I could try Eveque, do you mean that it is mostly the very top of Vallons du Pra with the variante that is difficult and one could do the lower part starting from Eveque? Is Eveque more difficult than Plan du Pra? |
The top of the Pra is steep, around 30 degrees. The Eveque is a more even gradient but is not pisted so can be a lot of skiing on choppy snow.
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Useless information: La Fare has the steepest average gradient of all the ADH blacks, believe it or not. That's because it doesn't really have any flat bits rather than because it is very steep at any point, so don't let that put you off
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| Cacciatore wrote: |
themothandthestar, welcome to snowHeads
Le Fare, down into Vaujany from L'Alpette (IIRC) is a great black run - reasonably wide and consistent (fabulous views too). Because Vaujany is fairly low (1250m) there can be coverage issues, so the piste isn't always open.
Someone mentioned, I think, that Combe Charbonniere is also reasonably challenging (a question of perspective, I suppose). |
wonderful long runs both.
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Thank you all!
i'm guessing the Combe Charbonniere has moguls, but is also very steep at the same time?
The moguls don't scare me when they don't come so very steep  as they do in the Tunnel, Alpe D'Huez or the Noisette, 7 Laux.
People say that Sarenne is a nice long, rather doable run. I wonder about the last flat part though, how long would it take an average person to go through that flat part?
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Sarenne is great in good snow, the bottom is fine, didn't take us long at all, it's not totally flat/uphill, more NEARLY flat so you have to do some xc style skating, but not so much you are knackered and fed up...
It gets steadily easier after a reasonably hairy start, I remember traversing across a lot to where it was a little less steep/full of stuck folks and after 5 turns or so, never another moment of problem - I was doing it in knee deep powder though, if it gets mogully I think the top would be interesting....
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themothandthestar, it is a pleasant enough run and certainly "doable". I seem to recall the last section taking about 10 minutes. It is a very gentle gradient. Quite spectacular and well worth doing IMV.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| davidof wrote: |
| Cacciatore wrote: |
themothandthestar, welcome to snowHeads
Le Fare, down into Vaujany from L'Alpette (IIRC) is a great black run - reasonably wide and consistent (fabulous views too). Because Vaujany is fairly low (1250m) there can be coverage issues, so the piste isn't always open.
Someone mentioned, I think, that Combe Charbonniere is also reasonably challenging (a question of perspective, I suppose). |
wonderful long runs both. |
Yep, probably my fave 2 in AdH. When we stayed in Vaujany, La Fare was the home run, and we looked forward to it every day!
Did I read somewhere that it's technically the steepest run in AdH? i.e. in terms of distance over vertical. I think it's pretty easy as black runs go...
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| a.j. wrote: |
| if it gets mogully I think the top would be interesting.... |
Agreed.
I do wonder if it is marked black to deter "wannabe red skiers". There are no jump off points, restaurants or control areas for rescuing those who might find it a little too much.
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You know it makes sense.
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Hahaha, as Arno said just a couple of posts above. D'oh.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Mr Pieholeo wrote: |
| Hahaha, as Arno said just a couple of posts above. D'oh. |
Ahhhh.... 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Mr Pieholeo,
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When we stayed in Vaujany, La Fare was the home run, and we looked forward to it every day!
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