OK, so they're flavour of the month at the moment, but why on earth are they not Rucksacks? I'm sure this is what they are (aren't they?) so where has the word 'pack' stemmed from - yes, I know from Backpack, but surely they are all rucksacks of some form or another?
Discuss.......................
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Megamum, absolutely.
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Megamum, yes your right just like a car is as car unless its a supermini/hatchback/estate/MVP/Soft Roader/saloon/4x4 etc... I think you get the picture
Megamum, you know the answer right? Re-issue, re-package, re-market - re-invent the wheel.... The discerning outdoor sports connoiuseeur (spelling ) can never be satisfied until she has a 'pack' for every occasion... copyright Acme Rucksack inc
but tell me MM - how many handbags do you own?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Megamum, what's wrong with calling them backpacks or a derivative thereof?
I first heard the terms 'backpacker' about 35 years ago. Sounded progressive to me.
'Sack' sounds like unemployment, potatoes, prisoners dutifully sewing mailbags etc.
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Megamum, OK. So rucksack and pack pack you understand, but not all sacks are equal.
A day pack might be from 10L to 30L, or 40L, in size. Unsurprisingly this is used to hold the general items that one might need during the day, whatever your day might be.
You might then have a pack for multi day tours which would be between 25L, at the smallest imaginable end, up to something around 60L, but a pack this big is going to hinder your skiing!
When you see people go off 'back packing' they take bags in the 50L-70L range. These are available in two main styles too. You get your average 'back pack', which has sholder straps and can carry loads of gear, these don't have to be very expensive and aren't very comfortable but great if you're just moving from hostel to hostel. A technical or 'hiking' back pack of similar sizes are much more expensive and have been ergonomically designed to be very comfortable when worn for long periods of time, perfect for serious hiking.
A helipack is actually a particular model of pack from Dakine, one of the more popular or ski / snowboard back packs.
Backpacks have become more and more popular with skiers over the last decade or so, they're almost becoming 'skiing status symbols'. If you go to Chamonix the fashion is to have as much hanging off your back pack as possible.
Some skiers like to show off their bravado by having an avalanche shovel attached to the outside of the pack. It says "look at me, I ski off piste." This is a very silly place to attach your shovel handle and actually says "look at me, I'm a punter" or "look at me, I'm a gaper". I know at least two people that have lost their shovel handles because they have been attached to the outside. And I saw a handle at the bottom of a chair lift the other day, I suspect will have been dropped the same way.
Backpacks are great and I never really ski without one. The list of stuff I (and others) carry is long and can be found with an easy search in the Equipment section.
Hydration packs are also really making back packs popular too, it's great being able to keep hydrated in such an easy way.
/monologue
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red 27, You may find this hard to believe, but I'm difficult to please in the handbag dept. and usually only have one on the go for months/years if I can make it last, at a time - I will also spend upto about £100 if it means I think I have found the right one. However, the last two dear ones have self destructed about 4 months use (I'm quite hard on handbags) so I've given up on leather ones and am now using a cheap canvas one that I picked up in the local town - that has now done about 10 months and is still going strong. I prefer a long strap shoulder bag, but at the moment the current one just tucks under the underarm - not entirely satisfactory but at least its lasting. I also only own about 7 pairs of shoes
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Megamum, are you married - if not, wanna be?
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red 27, I didn't realise this place did dating too Yes, I do have another half - we could always have an illicit on-line affaire though Ahhhhh.........the thrills.......the excitement........
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Megamum, sounds good... not a great love affair you understand, I'm just after a bint that doesn't need an extension to house her Marcos-esque bag'n'shoe collection
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red 27, I only shop for clothes about once or twice a year too!! Seems like I could be the lass you're looking for - However, I believe you should know that Masque has also been on the horizon for a while two, but if the two of you would like to have it out between you I'm happy to go along with the outcome!! Unless of course you see some thrill value in a threesome
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Rucksack sounds very old-fashioned to me - the sort of thing my parents would say, along with the wireless (as in radio, not wifi) and motor car
I went backpacking, not rucksacking
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
and wots wrong with gramophone?
No need to call em record players or stereos.
Cars indeed. Automobiles if you please.
And I think you'll find it's a knapsack.
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Megamum wrote:
red 27, Masque has also been on the horizon for a while two, Unless of course you see some thrill value in a threesome
OK, but this Mosque bird better be good looking....
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
This is what a backpack looks like, not to be confused with a day-pack or rucksack.....
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Megamum wrote:
red 27, I only shop for clothes about once or twice a year too!!
snowball, What i like best about the picture is the fact that she feels wearing the scarf, hat and gloves will keep her warm.
(OK I admit its what i like 2nd best about the picture!)
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What I don't like about that picture...... is that you can't see her t............................................... s !!!!!
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Oh...and some closer fitting packs can help you feel warmer... which you might only notice if you ski without it once in a while.
I did this for the 1st time in ages on a colder day recently and really noticed it... !!!!!!!!
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REAL backpack's are called Bergens, everything else is a pack.
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JT, Well at least with the picture you could use your imagination which may be better than the real thing!!
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Hmmm, looks a bit chilly - I bet she could hang that pack off her nipp.....
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Megamum, if that's Masque count me in
So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
JT wrote:
Oh...and some closer fitting packs can help you feel warmer... which you might only notice if you ski without it once in a while.
I did this for the 1st time in ages on a colder day recently and really noticed it... !!!!!!!!
On the other hand you can get very sweaty behind a closer fitting one. (But in this particular case I doubt that the backpack would object)
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
i wish i was skiing there at the same time
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Ok, troymgc, you've got me intrigued:
How on earth, and/or why, did you find this thread from 5 years ago?
Presumably by using the Search facility?
So what was your search term(s)?
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Backpack is just a translation of the German work Ruksak (sp)
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the real story here is rucksack - what we used to call them in Britain. Backpack - what they called them in the colonies ( ) inc. US. US cultural imperialism has won the argument and everything is derived from backpack now (well mostly).
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Megamum wrote:
I will also spend upto about £100 if it means I think I have found the right one. However, the last two dear ones have self destructed about 4 months use (I'm quite hard on handbags) so I've given up on leather ones and am now using a cheap canvas one that I picked up in the local town - that has now done about 10 months and is still going strong.
Right children..... your essay for today. Discuss the contention that backpacks are more dangerous than helmets. They raise the CoG, get caught on chairlifts and clutter up Gondolas. On the basis that man created skiing merely as a mode of transport between mountain restaurants their role as a hydration pack is both unnecessary, unsociable and economically undesirable. Discuss.
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Odin, there's a rucksack in that picture
It's very simple - if they're just called rucksacks we would only buy one, change the name and we buy one of each. Same with shoes - you used to buy walking boots, but now you have trail shoes, approach shoes, hiking boots, light-terrain shoes etc.
It's the marketeers kidding us that we need a seperate thing for different circumstances - strangely the only thing which has gone the other way is phones, which are now cameras, music players, GPS etc where as before we carried umpteen gadgets
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Megamum, is that canvas bag still going or has it gone?
Seriously........1 handbag .........7 pairs of shoes........really!
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imho, rucksack is what they all arem backpack is just another name for the same.
But daypack/daysack, alpine pack, heli pack are all specific versions of rucksack for specific purposes.
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i was at work and at 3 or 4am was looking for a ski carrying backpack ... i didnt actually realise how old the thread was until i posted my comment....lol
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) can never be satisfied until she has a 'pack' for every occasion... copyright Acme Rucksack inc
