 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi we leave for the three valleys on 24 January and just wondering if there is any benifit to ordering lift passes before we get there to be delivered to us in uk? or is it too late? (2 weeks before we leave) heading to La Tania
can anyone tell me if i need to purchase the carre neige? or will my insurance pollicy do the same thing? I dont really understand it
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I have never found a price difference for pre-purchase v's in resort purchase in 3V. They are very efficient, so you should only have to wait a few minutes to buy it in resort.
Have always relied on travel insurance only, but make sure your policy covers you for everything the carre niege does.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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thats great thanks
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polo99,If you have a lift pass from a previous visit to the 3v's you could recharge it.
I have never seen any price saving by getting it before you travel though. It's more down to convenience.
If you are going with a tour operator, they can buy or for you. In the past my hotel has had it ready on the first ski day.
No queuing at the TO.
Personally I always take out carre neige but, if you do, make sure you keep the proof of purchase with you. As well as your E111 and travel/ski insurance details.
My understanding is that at €2 or €3 per day any requirement for piste rescue is covered, no forms to fill out, no negotiations with your insurance company, etc
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polo99, we've been to La Tania a few times and I don't remember queueing for lift passes at the ticket office so i can't see the advantage in purchasing ahead. Maybe at some time there will be a big queue! At Christmas lift passes were offered on the transfer bus 'at the same price', but actually it worked out nearly £35 cheaper (on an 860Euro family pass) at the ticket office due to a difference in exchange rates used.
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balernoStu, we have the 3vs POS passes and we can top them up as required, it gives us the flexibility of adding a half jour if we get to resort (which we usually do) earlier. Have even done it on the transfer when we knew we were going to get into the hotel on time for a cheeky couple of hours.
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We bought ours down in La Tania when we got there. We hummed and hawed cover the carte neidge bit but in the end decided that we'd kick ourselves fpor being so tight if anything happened to us or the kids on the mountain. In saying that, we may well have been covered with our insurance but weren't entirely sure and it just gave extra peace of mind for the cost of a couple of coffees in Courchevel 
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ansta1, interesting, i'll look into those if/when we're going again.
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polo99, The only way the question about carre neige insurance is if we know the terms of your insurance policy. If it is a winter sports policy there is probably no need to buy extra insurance, both companies will not pay out and indeed may argue about who should pay. If, however it is just a generic travel insurance policy then you will need carre neige. I do know people who do not take travel insurance at all but rely on EHIC and carre neige.
As to buying your ski pass in advance it really depends on how close your accommodation is to the lift pass office and whether you fancy the walk or not. It has been a long time since I have seen a lift pass queue in France.
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| johnE wrote: |
| It has been a long time since I have seen a lift pass queue in France. |
Queues of 15-20 minutes in Les Arcs 1800 just before New Year on both Saturday and Sunday mornings.
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I bought a lift pass from my TO New Year week and the Carre Niege was added to the card.
The trouble with that is that you can't 'see' that it was added. We did have a paper receipt but.....
Fortunately we didn't need to test the situation.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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You can get discount pass if there are 2 or more of you, this can be got online
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thanks for all the replies folks. I was just worried we were going to have to queue forever for the passes and we arent one for queues. I was a bit worried about the carre neige. I am just about to take out a winter sports policy for the family it is with insureandgo? not really sure what i am looking at on the insureance. what does carre neige include so i can compare?
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I have never carried my insurance details around with me whilst skiing, they are usually in a folder in the apartment. maybe i should start skiing with them in my pocket? I dont really know what would have happened if you hadnt been carrying the details?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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im really glad you mentioned this. I always carry my phone so what i will do is make sure that i have in it my insurance policy number and emergency phone number. I always carry my credit card with me. I dont, however, have an E111 card, should I? would I have enough time to get these?
I know people are saying it is the price of a coffee in Courchevel but we are a family of 4 and for the week it is an extra 80 euros for carre neige as well as about the same for winter sports insurance.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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If you going with a Tour operator, they can get the passes sorted for you anf have them ready. If you are in a DIY in a hotel, they can do the same. If you are in effect on your own, it normally only takes a few minutes at the ticket booths, just allow a little time.
IMO, you should definitely have EHIC cards for your family, if you apply now and if it arrives see it as a plus. They last years once you have them. We also carry a copy of the insurance as well as a CC, when we are on the hill.
Ameribel46, stated the Carre Niege stops all the pay on CC and claim it back 'discussions'. They were, in effect, holding the skis as hostage. If you have Carre Niege receipt, once they see it, it's all covered but remember to have the receipt as it does not appear on the lift ticket,
It's not like the UK, if you need recovering off the mountain or treatment. The normal course of action is that they require paying or an OK from the insurance company first. The person that has the CC with the available limit may not be in a position to do the paying.
I have never had to claim but I have seen the problems not having the correct cover or information to hand can cause.
It's your call (and money) but we consider it just part of the holiday cost now. If you are put off by the cost of this, just wait until you try and buy some food or drink on the mountain in the 3V's, particularly Courchevel. When we were on a tight budget, we always carried snacks or returned to the apartment at lunch time but that wasn't always very practical.
Last edited by Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? on Sun 12-01-14 23:15; edited 1 time in total
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So instead of buying winter sport insurance in UK, we should be buying carre neige? Is that correct? Someone above said no point having both as that could lead to arguments between the insurance companies over who should pay. We always purchase Snowcard wintersport insurance. So get a card and a bracelet to carry on piste, plus we have E111 and each always carry a cc. For the last 2 years we also have the policy document on our phones.
Can I ask about PoS system please? Are all lift passes in 3V PoS? We have last years passes and would happily recharge them. Or are PoS cards different and if so how do you get one?
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Do your cards say POS on them, not sure if the general issued cards can be topped up. That is to say technically they obviously can, it's just they may not allow it. Probably easy enough to check on the s3v website (not that it's the most user friendly site)
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I've found this thread really useful - I've got travel insurance but never have thought about the practicalities of having the right insurance details on me at all times. My documentation is normally back in my apartment, probably in a dark corner of my backpack.
Following this thread I'm going to make sure I have some basic essential information on me at all times and that my mates know where it is.
It's also a shame that people feel that they need Carre Niege rather than Winter Sports insurance because of the pressure they get in resort to pay up. I like the bracelet system that NE1 mentioned - feels like there should be a universally understood system so that the resorts can say 'yep, that's fine' in seconds rather than feeling hassled or held to hostage.
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With a POS lift card you can get a Saturday lift pass half price online
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I have never felt pressure to buy Carre Neige insurance, but the ticket sales staff always ask because the majority of people need it.
I have been rescued once on the mountain. Of course I had no insurance documents on me, but was still taken down the mountain in a blood wagon - no questions asked. The doctor treated me. I came back the next day paid for the medical treatment by credit card and likewise collected my skis. Then claimed off the insurance. The insurance paid up easily, but took a £50 excess and £50 by using their own exchange rate.
E111 was discontinued years ago and replaced by EHIC
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Can I ask about PoS system please? Are all lift passes in 3V PoS? We have last years passes and would happily recharge them. Or are PoS cards different and if so how do you get one?
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P@S lift passes normally cost an addittional 3 euros and are clearly marked. It is not possible to top up on line the standard non P@S cards issued with daily/weekly passes. If you are going to return to the 3V then its worthwhile asking for a P@S when you buy your pass.
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With a POS lift card you can get a Saturday lift pass half price online
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For a 3V Staurday pass its 20% discount online. For a Saturday Les Menuires local pass its half price online. Others may know about Courcheval/Meribel local pass Saturday discounts?
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I don't think ours have P@S on them. If I buy a duo online in advance, will I get a P@s pass? Do they 'last' more than one sea don or us a P@S only valid for one season?
You are right the website isn't particularly user friendly. From what I understand the duo pass is only available online, is that correct?
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Yes, the POS passes last more than one season, ours are currently on their 4 th year.
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For an first online purchase the 3V lift pass companies will normally include a P@S card for free. They will replace them free of charge if they fail up to one year, however all my visitors have had the same card for years with no problems. The duo and trio discounts are also available at the ticket office.
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^ thanks
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You know it makes sense.
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I normally stick 10 euros, the EIHC, the lift pass, a copy of my travel insurance, and the Carre Neige in the same zip pocket (where they stay all week). I think I paid 2.80 per day in the 3V over Christmas, under 20 euro's. In the scheme of things really its neglible and my kids just have to point to the pocket if disaster strikes. You can't put a price on that.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| NE1 wrote: |
So instead of buying winter sport insurance in UK, we should be buying carre neige? Is that correct? Someone above said no point having both as that could lead to arguments between the insurance companies over who should pay. We always purchase Snowcard wintersport insurance. So get a card and a bracelet to carry on piste, plus we have E111 and each always carry a cc. For the last 2 years we also have the policy document on our phones.
Can I ask about PoS system please? Are all lift passes in 3V PoS? We have last years passes and would happily recharge them. Or are PoS cards different and if so how do you get one? |
NE1 It's not an either or situation, as neither give the cover I require. It's a package the plugs the gaps. I have EHIC, travel insurance (inc winter sports ) as well as using the carre niege. The winter sports insurance also covers piste closure, ski pack and skis as well as the usual travel items.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Ive just found our EIHC cards which I had applied for 3 years ago and stuck in a cupboard and attached to them it say something like "this does not replace holiday insurance as it does not cover repatriation etc" I have just spoken to an insurer for a quote and asked if the cover covered me being airlifted off the mountain etc and he said yes, so Im guessing that as long as I have my credit card with me to pay for the immediate excess or fees (so that I can claim at a later date) i should be ok?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Is carre neige only aplicable in France? It looks like it from their site.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Unlike travel insurance, I doubt that a carre neige or EHIC will get you repatriated to the UK in the event of something really nasty happening.
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homers double, no, Carre Neige coverage "applies to metropolitan France and its bordering countries during
the amateur practice of a snow sport." So, pretty much all of mainstream skiing Europe except Austria.
xyzpaul, why don't you check before publically doubting something? Repatriation is one of the major selling points for Carre Neige.
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meribel46,
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| Carre neige & the EHIC most certainly wont get you repatriated |
WRONG.
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really? Oh please tell me more......
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To save me having to correct everyone who makes inaccurate statements about Carre Neige and presents them as facts, this is the T&C's download page: http://www.carreneige.com/en/downloads.php
I suggest the English version if you're capable of comprehending it.
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Raceplate, thanks for the attitude but I was genuinly asking as I really didn't think it did but I didn't expect such a sarcastic reply. Ive obviously been really lucky with the advice Ive had from other snowheads as I've never had a reply like that 
I'm more than happy to be told I'm wrong but it would have been nice in a decent manner.
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meribel46, you didn't ask for advice or ask a question. You made a categorically incorrect statement.
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| Carre neige & the EHIC most certainly wont get you repatriated |
is a statement, not a question. Questions have a question mark at the end of the sentence. If you don't understand that, then English comprehension clearly isn't your strong point.
Maybe if you checked your facts before making ignorant statements to the whole world, you wouldn't get a sarcastic reply?
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Whilst my insurance paid for all that & my operation & overnight stay in hospital I will definitly buy carre neige next time as it saves all the hassle at the bottom of the mountain whilst been loaded into the ambulance when all your insurance details are needed. The bill for my trip in a sledge, ambulance to the medical centre then to hospital was 700 euros & that would have all been covered (as I understand) by the carre neige so for a couple of euros a day I think its got to be worth it-as one of the other posts says its only the price of a coffee in Courcheval 1850 
