 Poster: A snowHead
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I've got three ski holidays booked this year (lucky me!) so I'm thinking of buying my own helmet, something not too expensive like this.....http://www.surfdome.com/sinner_snow_helmet_-_sinner_empire_air_snow_helmet_-_lime_green-162259 (although probably not in lime green!)
So my question is this: How did folks take their helmets with them? Hand luggage? Checked Luggage? And do they need packing in anything for protection? Any ideas how much one like that would broadly weigh?
Finally, I know I've used the 'H' word here, but please, don't let this turn into an argurment about whether helmets are a good idea or not. I always wear one. end of.
Cheers!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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chopkins13, I put mine in an old nylon stuff sack to stop it getting scratched. Stuff the insides with goggle box, socks, buffs etc. so as not to waste space when you pack.
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Wed 8-01-14 10:03; edited 1 time in total
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I always carry mine in my hand luggage. That way I know exactly what has happened to it.
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| Megamum wrote: |
| chopkins13, If they can save your head, they should survive even airport handling. |
Someone will be along in a minute to tell you why that's totally wrong. I'm not entitled to an opinion.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Bode Swiller, OK, I've deleted it, clearly I am not entitled to a thought process either, but it does seem an intuitive statement and one I would have assumed for my own helmet.
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Have a Transpack boot+helmet bag, padded out a bit with gloves and a couple of base layers or something. Checked luggage. It's pretty robust, and LH more than happy to accept that as the boot bag and helmet bag that comes with free ski carriage.
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It's a squeeze, but I can get the helmet in with the boots in the boot bag (normal size salomon one). Try with the opening of the helmet facing the boots, and in the space you can sick some socks, goggles etc.
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| Megamum wrote: |
| chopkins13, I put mine in an old nylon stuff sack to stop it getting scratched. Stuff the insides with goggle box, socks, buffs etc. so as not to waste space when you pack. |
Seconded, people are way too precious about that whole "One knock and it toast" thing. Application of a bit of common sense and your helmet will be fine.
Just put it in the centre of your luggage with a bit of clothing around it for padding, so nothing too hard can press into it when your bag is buried under a pile of cases. I've moved my assorted helmets around for 12+ years and never had a problem (apart from the ProTec which went weirdly sticky...got sock fluff stuck to it.  )
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Thanks for the comments guys, might consider putting it in the checked bag and padding out with clothes for protection. Any ideas on what it would weigh? Flying Sleazy Jet on one occassion so only have 15KG allowance - guessing a helmet is probaly about 1.5kg?
Cheers
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my helmet is 450g
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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chopkins13, kitchen scales?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Clip it to your carry-on. You will look a bit of a tosser, unfortunately (I know I do), but it's amazing how much room the damn things take up in a case.
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I flew to LA with Virgin last year with mine in my boot bag (checked boot bag in), then travelled to Mammoth. When I arrived I took my helmet out of my boot bag and it looked like a golf ball!
My advice would be definitely in your main checked bag with plenty of clothes padded round it for protection.
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You know it makes sense.
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Put it on your head, then it does not count as luggage, just take it off before you go through the scanner.....unless you like being groped 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Any ideas on what it would weigh?
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My Smith Variant weighs 500g - it gets put in its case/bag and goes in the bottom of my hand luggage rucksack, filled with goggles and socks.
Never had a problem at airports yet.
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Poster: A snowHead
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If you can fit it in your hand luggage then do this.
Sure it is very unlikely that anthing would happen to it if well padded but things do often get broken and a helmet is quite fragile. Not like glass or anything but they are designed to crack on impact to discipate the energy of a crash and falling off a baggage converyor of the top of one of those trolley things would be enough to damage it if it fell in the wrong place.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Flet©h wrote: |
If you can fit it in your hand luggage then do this.
Sure it is very unlikely that anthing would happen to it if well padded but things do often get broken and a helmet is quite fragile. Not like glass or anything but they are designed to crack on impact to discipate the energy of a crash and falling off a baggage converyor of the top of one of those trolley things would be enough to damage it if it fell in the wrong place. |
But if it's filled with socks, and surrounded by clothing, that's very unlikely.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| northernsoulboy wrote: |
| Clip it to your carry-on. You will look a bit of a tosser, unfortunately (I know I do), but it's amazing how much room the damn things take up in a case. |
+1
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Mine goes in my hold bag with clothes' etc. packed around it, ditto my ski boots.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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goes in checker luggage with goggles and gloves inside, and clothes packed around it.
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Hand luggage. Its important kit that you don't want to be without on your first days skiing/snowboarding.
At Gatwick tomorrow, mine will be clipped to my rucksack containing boots, gloves, snowboard pants, socks and goggles. I'd hand-luggage the snowboard if I thought I'd get away with it 
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A helmet thread with 20 replies in 4 hours all about how to safely pack them but with no anecdotes so far either about how a helmet has prevented the teller's certain death or how a helmet nearly caused a deadly collision from a downhill but out of control, reckless old, fat and bald man who thought he was invincible while listening to Bruce Springsteen through his helmet's bluetooth headset and iphone which was also measuring his skiing speed on the blue run with its GPS app. 
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moffatross, until you came along, eh? 
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mine looks really cool.
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hey - I look really cool
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Mine keeps my ears warm and I don't really notice it.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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moffatross, +1
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| Flet©h wrote: |
| (Helmets) are designed to crack on impact to discipate(sic) the energy of a crash |
Is his correct? Helmets are designed to crack on impact?
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You know it makes sense.
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| Jonpim wrote: |
| Flet©h wrote: |
| (Helmets) are designed to crack on impact to discipate(sic) the energy of a crash |
Is his correct? Helmets are designed to crack on impact? |
No, it's not correct.
They are designed to absorb impact, not to crack.
If the impact is big enough, they may crack, in which case you need to buy a new one, or ski slower.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I can fit my helmet in the bottom of my 18 litre ABS pack. Facing up, so the helmet gets filled with items and doesn't really take up much room.
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Poster: A snowHead
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The one (serious) knock and discard is not without foundation, but you need to better understand the construction.
Basically what you want to avoid is a situation where the helmet would have helped save you from injury, but it doesn't or doesn't as well as it might otherwise have done. There's an awful lot of discussion that could go on around those phrases, but leaving that out, I don't know that much about ski helmet construction so I'll talk about cycle helmets.
I cover a lot of miles on a bike and I wear a helmet. Not because I think it will save me from DETH but because I think that there are a small subset of incidents where a helmet will help and for me the minor discomfort of wearing a helmet is a reasonable stake for a bet that I won't have an accident where it will help. Now cycle helmets go from the cheap and basic to the expensive, you don't get any better protection with the expensive ones, in fact you are paying for less helmet: lighter, more ventilation; I use an expensive one. These typically have a frame internal to the structure on which the expanded polystyrene is formed, with the plastic shell over the top. If that structure is compromised, wearing the helmet might be worthless.
Relatively recently, my handlebars failed as I was riding along at around 20mph and I ended up nutting the back end of a car. I walked away from that (the bike didn't) and the helmet looked undamaged. I spoke to the manufacturers who have a replacement scheme for crash damage (half price) which I took advantage of. Before I sent the helmet off, I peeled back the outer cover and discovered that polystyrene was cracked underneath, from the frame. I'm relatively pleased I made the decision to change.
Now skiing helmets, I've actually only recently started wearing one after realising the irony, and I can't say it bothers me (mind you, I haven't been skiing at easter yet). The construction appears to be less complex and overall sturdier, but in the unlikely event that I do crack my head in one, or I know it has suffered a serious knock I would change it. When considering the strength of the knock, it is worth remembering that it is designed for an impact with substantial momentum behind it.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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They are designed to absorb impact, not to crack.
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Thats a bit pedantic isn't it? They are designed to absorb impact by deforming. That will eventually result in a crack if you hit it hard enough but any deformation is a bad thing.
Either way your helmet is the most fragile thing you will pack to go skiing and if broken it may not be apparent to you. Anything else will be a pain if broken but at least you will see imediately and be able to claim off the airline. Helmets are also light and small so they will fit in your hand luggage without any bother so for me it makes sense. Other people will make different choices and 99.9% of them will be fine.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Ours go in hold luggage in the middle of the case stuffed with goggles and socks and surrounded by clothes.
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| Flet©h wrote: |
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They are designed to absorb impact, not to crack.
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Thats a bit pedantic isn't it? |
Well, it's not worth falling out over but to be honest, no, I don't think it is.
You said 'helmets are designed to crack on impact', which is a pretty bald statement, and a guy asked (again baldly) if that was correct.
I just said, No, it's not correct. They are designed to absorb impact, and will crack if the impact is great enough.
But no biggie.
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