Poster: A snowHead
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Hi guys,
I realise this is rather nerdy, but would really appreciate some DWR advice as my Goretex pro jacket has begun to wet out
I've recently washed it with Granger's 2-in-1 (cleaner & waterproofer) which has not solved the problem as I'd hoped! I've also since discovered that the wash-in method of reproofing can inhibit breathability and therefore I am now thinking of going down the spray-on route!
Therefore..... Does anyone have a good DWR info resource? Or could help me with some of the following info?
- I understand that there are a few different types of DWR, (silicone based, fluoropolymer based and nikwax) with some of these not being compatible..... which means that if my jacket has been fluoro coated in factory then it would be counter-productive for me to treat it with silicone this time??
- Is goretex pro treated with DWR by goretex as a pure material or would the DWR be applied by the garment manufacturer? (wondering if best to contact goretex or mountain-equipment with regards to my DWR query)?
- Has anyone tried reviveX with goretex pro?? it seems to come highly recommended....
Many thanks!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Have you tried tumble drying the jacket... Most DWR coating will reactivate a few time just doing that.
On a low setting!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Yeah Grangers has to be heat activated for the water repelency to kick in. Most stick it in the tumble dryer on a low setting and this usually does the trick. Others might just hang it over a radiator (again not in direct heat) which also works.
DWR, to the best of my knowledge, is applied by the garment manufacturer. Gore just supply the fabric, though they do recommend certain products "for best results" which I think for them is Nikwax.
I use wash-in all the time and never had any problems with breathability. Especially with Gore-tex as it has a protective membrane which prevents clogging of the pores.
The DWR is essentially a waxy finish on the fabric which repels the moisture. If the DWR is totally exhausted you will need to top it up several times to return to 'as new' condition. Do this by wash then spray on several coats, letting it dry in between. Give key areas an extra coat or two, such as on the shoulders, hip and back. As if your wearing a rucksack it will wear through the DWR very quickly. If the fabric is totally wetting out I'd suggest using Nikwax Tx-direct first as in my experience it sticks to fabric a lot better than Grangers which, as far as I know, sticks better to pre-existing DWR.Once you have successfully reproofed the garment pour some water over it and it should stay completely dry.
Lastly, when reproofing alway give the garment a good clean so any DWR will go straight onto the face fabric.
For step by step guides head or either Nikwax or Grangers website as they have some pretty clear instructions.
Hope that helps a bit.
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Yeah I've given that a go.... It's had a few washes in its life time and although tumble drying reactivates it slightly, it's still no where near as good as it should be....
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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tomb, I have a retired Goretex XCR jacket that still more or less performs as expected except where it's physically damaged. It was bought in 2000.
~ 40 ski days/year
Typically washed once a year in Tech Wash and proofed with TX-direct wash in, tumble dried on warm/medium.
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under a new name, Does water still bead on the surface? With my jacket the water just seems to soak-in
Interestingly, it seems not all clothing manufacturers use the same quality of DWR treatment... some bad, some good!
I'm currently trying to decide between Atsko permanent water-guard and McNett ReviveX.
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cammyammy, the issue with wash-in reproofers is that it coats the inside of the jacket... surely this would stop your sweat from exiting the jacket?
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I've always had good results with spray on proofing.
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tomb, yep. If it didn't actually have holes in key abrasion areas, I'd still be using it. 11 years of excellent service.
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