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... I follow and take an interest in the results and progress of a couple of the Brits who Race on the Ski Cross circuit.
I checked out the BSS website this morning to see whether we had anyone coming up in the junior ranks.
http://www.teambss.org.uk/
It seems we have a British Squad for pretty much everything, including Snowboarder Cross... except Skier Cross. 
So how does it work for Emily Sarsfeld, Pam Thorburn and Ed Drake? How come they aren't recognised?
The reason I take an interest is because imho, Skier Cross will become the 'in thing' when it comes to racing.
It ticks many box's, and brings together an element of Racing and 'cool freestyle image'... and makes for a great TV as well as live spectacle.
I also believe it will be a lot easier for certain British Athletes to compete equally on.
Is there a reason why the 'Authorities' aren't promoting this sport better?... it's the future as far as I can see.
Any ideas folks?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I think your "cool" compass needs a reset!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| spud wrote: |
... I follow and take an interest in the results and progress of a couple of the Brits who Race on the Ski Cross circuit.
I checked out the BSS website this morning to see whether we had anyone coming up in the junior ranks.
http://www.teambss.org.uk/
It seems we have a British Squad for pretty much everything, including Snowboarder Cross... except Skier Cross.
So how does it work for Emily Sarsfield, Pam Thorburn and Ed Drake? How come they aren't recognised?
The reason I take an interest is because imho, Skier Cross will become the 'in thing' when it comes to racing.
It ticks many box's, and brings together an element of Racing and 'cool freestyle image'... and makes for a great TV as well as live spectacle.
I also believe it will be a lot easier for certain British Athletes to compete equally on.
Is there a reason why the 'Authorities' aren't promoting this sport better?... it's the future as far as I can see.
Any ideas folks? |
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Really..? Not from the groms I've spoken too...
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Think the squad is just missing from the website - here is some news from the website about the skier cross team http://www.teambss.org.uk/news/latest-news/big-weekend-for-british-ski-and-snowboard-sochi-hopefuls/
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'The Team BSS Ski Cross racers they will compete in the first World Cup of the season in Nakiska, Canada. In action will be Emily Sarsfield (who has already met the Olympic Qualifying Standards), Pam Thorburn, Ed Drake and Pete Whelan. Competition runs across Saturday and Sunday.'
Think there also some juniors who represented GB at the end of last season.
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| Scot_Ski wrote: |
Think the squad is just missing from the website - here is some news from the website about the skier cross team http://www.teambss.org.uk/news/latest-news/big-weekend-for-british-ski-and-snowboard-sochi-hopefuls/
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'The Team BSS Ski Cross racers they will compete in the first World Cup of the season in Nakiska, Canada. In action will be Emily Sarsfield (who has already met the Olympic Qualifying Standards), Pam Thorburn, Ed Drake and Pete Whelan. Competition runs across Saturday and Sunday.'
Think there also some juniors who represented GB at the end of last season. |
Yes... cheers for that... I did notice it... I just thought it weird for the squad members not to be included in the Website. All very odd... especially if there were any potential sponsers looking to attach themselves to someone.
They don't help themselves do they? 
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Have you contacted BSS and asked them why?
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| Dashed wrote: |
| Have you contacted BSS and asked them why? |
I haven't to be honest... although it's 12.30, what's the point?...they are probably quaffing on their 3rd sherry by now, admiring one another's polished Blazer buttons and discussing the finer points of the décor in the Fitzroy Tavern 
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Skier cross this weekend is Friday and Saturday; not sunday unless they postphone because its warm, but they are using the track on sunday
spud, Skier cross is fairly big time here now; they have a long term development plan and are now having structured programs for U12 and up integrating with the ski racing programs. It falls under canada alpine's umbrella and they tend to align it with alpine racing, not freestyle http://www.alpinecanada.org/ski-cross/development-ski-cross . Alberta Alpine are responsible for it in Alberta and they are into alpine racing.
Like you I think its great opportunity for the brits, put in a great time trial and suddenly you are in the top 32 or 16 and then anything can happen; plus its a great spectator sport. Hoping for a good result from both the brits and the canadians at nakiska
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They will be competing at Val Thorens at the end of the week. We will make sure we go and cheer them on. Agree with you that it is a great looking sport, lots of direct competition and a whole range of skills and thrills.
We have a very strong team and being an Olympic event will be bound to grow with the exposure it is getting. I think 4 of our skiers have qualified for Sochi??
I don't understand, or even care to, the governance and various clubs of British skiing so have no idea if they are being officially supported. I know they they were doing an inventive thing where if people personally sponsored them a small bit for Sochi then they entered you into a little prize draw.
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| gryphea wrote: |
Skier cross this weekend is Friday and Saturday; not sunday unless they postphone because its warm, but they are using the track on sunday
spud, Skier cross is fairly big time here now; they have a long term development plan and are now having structured programs for U12 and up integrating with the ski racing programs. It falls under canada alpine's umbrella and they tend to align it with alpine racing, not freestyle http://www.alpinecanada.org/ski-cross/development-ski-cross . Alberta Alpine are responsible for it in Alberta and they are into alpine racing.
Like you I think its great opportunity for the brits, put in a great time trial and suddenly you are in the top 32 or 16 and then anything can happen; plus its a great spectator sport. Hoping for a good result from both the brits and the canadians at nakiska |
So I understand... That's why I thought it strange when someone said it wasn't 'cool'.
Also why I was looking under Alpine and not Freestyle...as that's what it should be.
Loads of kids are taking it up.
Have fun in Nakiska... I'm late getting out this season, was hoping to get to LL and this...but missed out. 
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You know it makes sense.
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| spud wrote: |
| ... I follow and take an interest in the results and progress of a couple of the Brits who Race on the Ski Cross circuit. |
So why didn't you know that Skier Cross is Freestyle not Alpine
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| stewart woodward wrote: |
| spud wrote: |
| ... I follow and take an interest in the results and progress of a couple of the Brits who Race on the Ski Cross circuit. |
So why didn't you know that Skier Cross is Freestyle not Alpine |
Because I just look at the results and follow a few on twitter and FB... it never occurred or connected in my head tbh.
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Poster: A snowHead
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I don't know or care what it is classified as - just that it looks a great sport.
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We have a very strong team and being an Olympic event will be bound to grow with the exposure it is getting. I think 4 of our skiers have qualified for Sochi??
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Don't think this is correct. I think that they may have met the Olympic qualifying criteria, but not the british one. Only Emily has a spot currently I think
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Chatted to Ed today; disappointing for him that the second nakiska event got cancelled. Says he needs to be top 32 in world to qualify as they only let 32 athletes in.
Emily had a decent run, nearly getting a second to go through to quarters but she did get a 3rd which meant 24th place overall. She signed my son's helmet.
It was completely cold today. Freezing.
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PS Son (U12) got to slip the course today.
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Very good article, didn't realise it was that bad.
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You will find all GBR Freestyle athlete's international results at http://www.freestylesnowsports.co.uk/res.htm
Click on 2013/14 for the spread sheet which I link to and update after each event. (Just about to post the latest SX results). Highlighted in red are any results that qualify for Olympics for GBR. This has all freestyle events, SX, HP, SS, MO, AE which are all Olympic events now. FIS put SX in freestyle so that's where it is organised although most of the GBR athletes come from an alpine background.
On the BSS website you will find the GBR Olympic qualification criteria for each discipline.
Which athletes get the very limited GBR funding is decided by BOA and they will make the final decisions in January as to who goes to Sochi.
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Should also have said that the 2013/14 results page only shows results from July 2013. To see who had any qualifying results from the previous season click on 2012/13.
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stewart woodward, Its closer to Alpine that freestyle but FIS are a little out of touch!
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| Fattes13 wrote: |
| stewart woodward, Its closer to Alpine that freestyle but FIS are a little out of touch! |
I know what it is & I also know where the results are!
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| Fattes13 wrote: |
| stewart woodward, Its closer to Alpine that freestyle but FIS are a little out of touch! |
Agreed... I presume that's why Canada include it under their Alpine programme
http://www.alpinecanada.org/
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stewart woodward, You can drop the attitude it is neither required nor warranted! Your responses have been quite caustic & bitter, and not in keeping with the tone of the thread.
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spud,
Whilst they do include it in their Alpine programme and are pretty successful at it, they explained on Saturday that the Olympic maximum allowed for Canada is 26 atheletes for Freestyle, including Skier Cross , so whilst these peeps are completely aligned with Alpine Canada internally who gets to go to the Olympics depends on how the other freestylers are doing and not the other alpiners.
It seems that from a safety point of view its more aligned with Alpine as well as from a racer point of view and maybe that's an issue.
Time for FIS to reconsider?
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You know it makes sense.
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Totally more aligned with Alpine than Freestyle gryphea, it's total racing.
I'm guessing it has more to do with 'tradition' and history of the typical 4 Alpine discipline's.
With a little research old wiki came up with the obvious thoughts...
Despite its being a timed racing event, it is often considered part of freestyle skiing because it incorporates terrain features traditionally found in freestyle.
The addition of ski cross as a freestyle discipline drew widespread criticism throughout the freestyle skiing community. Most freestyle skiers believe that Ski Cross should be considered an Alpine discipline rather than a Freestyle discipline. Ski Cross athletes almost exclusively come from alpine programs.
That sort of bares fruit to the argument I suppose...
I've often thought Skiing and it's various sports are hard to follow and navigate from a spectator or promising participant point of view...anyone else find the FIS website a ball ache to navigate?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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spud, FIS have redone the page for this year, its focus is the high end stuff, World Cup competition across all disciplines. It is a bit of a mare but once you get used to it you will know where everything is but its still a mess
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Yes mate... I've always found the old FIS easy to follow...when they changed it, I thought it was for the worse.
It's great if you have the time to play around on it, but I should imagine many followers on the peripheral just give up.
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