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'The Good Skiing Guide' becomes 'The Great Skiing Guide'

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Following on from the news that the Consumers Association were not publishing a 2006 edition of The Good Skiing and Snowboarding Guide ... comes news that Cadogan Books have re-published it in "completely rewritten" form, as 'The Great Skiing and Snowboarding Guide'.
The book continues under the editorship of Peter and Felice Hardy.

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After

The Ski Club of Great Britain has put the content online:
http://www.skiclub.co.uk/skiclub/news/item.asp?intCategoryID=1&intItemID=3265
The book costs £15.99

Other resort guides include 'Where to Ski and Snowboard' and Time Out's 'Skiing & Snowboarding in Europe'

If anyone's seen or bought the new Cadogan Books production it would be interesting to have comments.
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Now isn't that a good way to go. SCUK puts all the resort reviews on line and feeds back any new reader reports to the editors. And you don't have to be a member to view the info or to contribute. For once, intelligent use of the SCUK web site.
My only caveat is that some of the reviews are quite old (I have one there from 2003 which is now outdated as far as lift info is concerned) but most readers will give precendence to the most recent stuff if there is any doubt about accuracy.
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SCUK puts all the resort reviews on line
by 'SCUK' do u mean 'SKGB'?
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Yes - whatever they are calling themselves now. The Home part of the website still says Ski Club of Great Britain but the url and parts of the site headers include skiclub.co.uk. Shum confushion.
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Strewth, aren't there enough guides out there already. Who's buying all these books and how accurate can they possibly be when you consider the sheer number of rersorts the editors are meant to have visited? In my experience the majority of British sliders are creatures of habit anyway and know where they are going and what the lie of the land is.
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JohnHill, You're not the John Hill who publishes the Good Ski Guide then, I presume?!
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Well done to Peter and Felice, just scanned some of the "categories" on the on-line version and I'd agree with most of it. You can always find things that you'd tweak - I would have included Killington for moguls (the Outer Limits is one of the toughest bumps runs I've ever done) and I'm not sure I'd include Vail for on-mountain restaurants (there's only one small table-service restaurant, the Blue Moon Grill). I'm also surprised they don't mention the Peak 8 summit chair at Breckenridge but perhaps the decision missed their deadline.
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Martin Bell, No, but now I obviously have a "famous" industry namesake I'll use it to get free lift passes, meals, upgrades etc. I'm confused by the whole Good Ski Guide / Great Skiing Guide thing. Think I'll bring out The Incredible Ski Guide.

So, you're not the ex news reporter / politician in a white suit then.
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The publisher John Hill I know and love used to make very large claims about the scale and power of his organ, to the extent that I always thought his name was too modest - he was always 'John Mountain' to me.

[Statement of interest: John Hill's ski magazine was a direct competitor of the one we were working on (Ski Survey, Rest in Piste).]

Does John Hill = JohnHill? Would the John Hill we know express the opinions we see above? The important thing is to say nice things about him, whether he wishes to distance himself from his surname or bond with it.
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JohnHill wrote:
So, you're not the ex news reporter / politician in a white suit then.

No, but I once got sent one of his BBC pay cheques by mistake!
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No, but I once got sent one of his BBC pay cheques by mistake!


Out of interest, how much was it and would I get as much impersonating the real John Hill (even though I am a real John Hill)?

As you know a bit more than me about skiing, how about we publish The Awesome Ski Guide together? Surely, this'll naturally beat The Great and The Good versions.
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Because you're not a John Hill impersonator and are a real John Hill, perhaps you could answer the following question:

Are John Hill's pay cheques as big as his circulation claims?
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JohnHill wrote:

Out of interest, how much was it and would I get as much impersonating the real John Hill (even though I am a real John Hill)?

Not that much - regular BBC pay for a radio interview. So I sent it back. Had there been more zeroes, my moral dilemma might have been tougher...
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A mate of mine worked in sales for the Good Ski Guide and said that the magazine is about to go bankrupt. He left because he was asked to make up some stuff to PR people in order to get sales, that's how bad it was. Has anyone else hear about this?
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..... i thought that was common place in that industry Very Happy
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Jonathan Scott, welcome to snowHeads. Odd to pick a 3 year old thread to join in though Puzzled
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Thanks! I didn't notice it was that old rolling eyes I found it on google...
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Jonathan Scott, i went to school with a jonathan scott in Essex.... is that you by any chance ??.... or maybe i should sign up to friends reunited !!
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Libertine,

No but close. My parents are from Surrey but I grew up in Florida, now back in London. You should try facebook, but I guess there'll be millions of Jonathan Scotts there Madeye-Smiley
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.... I stopped facebooking a looong time ago, too many weirdo's on there and wasted too much of my time looking at what my zillion "friends" were up to....... yawn.
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zillions of friends?! Confused

I'm lucky if I have reached 100 in the 6 years I've been in there! For the record, I don't like it either, hardly ever check it, but good way to keep in touch with people
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Oh bum. There go the chances of my latest project succeeding...

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Are you confusing Good Ski Guide Magazine (edited by John Hill) with The Great Skiing and Snowboarding Guide (a book, formerly called The Good Skiing Guide, edited by Peter Hardy)?
The magazine is still around but one of the ltd companies was wound up by a supplier in August - this company was called Good Holiday Ideas Ltd, formerly Good Ski Guide Ltd - it had a name change but was still the same ltd company. The magazine is held now by sister company Mountain Leisure Ltd but, could well be in peril because it was owed over £100k by Good Holiday Ideas Ltd. Confused yet?
All public domain information at Companies House.
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Has anyone ever seen a copy of the Good Ski Guide magazine in a shop anywhere?
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Yes I have. At least ten years ago. John Hill was a legend in his own lunchtime, which is probably still at 'coffee and mints' stage.

Can't recall seeing the mag since then. Maybe it's at the printers.
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powpow wrote:
Has anyone ever seen a copy of the Good Ski Guide magazine in a shop anywhere?


Yes, regularly, although I don't recall seeing any this year.

But usually the issues I have seen in the shops haven't arrived there until after the closing date of the competitions in that issue Sad
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It's OK, Swiller, it wasn't shyness.

I wrote it

for my optician

who has a problem

with large point sizes

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I understand that the guide has been renamed once again after a change of publisher... something like Hardy's Great Ski Guide, after the editors.

David Goldsmith, don't be shy
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Whoops. I mistakenly edited the posting before Swiller's, which is supposed to be this one. Work that one out!
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Just glanced at it - the basic factual information on Les Saisies is grossly inaccurate - stuff which you could get from a simple glance at the piste map is just wrong. So frankly, I wouldn't trust the guide very far. I suppose I should send in corrections. Can I be bothered, I wonder?
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