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The holy grail of backpacks

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I like the robustness and compartments of the travel backpack . . . I like the weight,straps, security and carry systems for skis/boards of a backcountry (largish) daypack.

Does anyone know of or can recommend summat that I can use as a capacious carry on but yet will work well out on the hill for a day or two's trecking? I've been looking and can find great examples of the two types but not a decent hybrid Confused
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Picked up a Dakine Heli Pro DLX recently.
Pros:
Really good ski/board carry options on it, including a cable ski carrier.
Comfortable wide shoulder straps
Plenty of attach points
You can get a 2l integrated water bladder for it.

Cons:
20 litres, so may be a bit small as a trecking pack unless you rationalise your pack down to essentials.
T'aint cheap.
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What's a travel backpack when it's at home?
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meh, Like a school or laptop business pack. I hate the large canvas buckets that so many daypacks seem to be. I've a Nike 'puter pack that's great for carry on where I can split my electronics, paperwork, spare pants/soap etc. and consumables to easy dig out in security or on the plane, but it's a soggy mess on the hill.
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Masque, I use an Ortovox cross rider 20+ that I got second hand from a SH in very much the same way as you describe. I got fed up with the total lack of longevity in 'ordinary' backbacks and reasoned that something designed for off-piste use would be a stronger bet. I've been stunningly impressed with it. It's been virtually everywhere except the off-piste environment it was designed for - on piste, summer walking trips, airflights, trips to the zoo/museums/London etc., boot fairs, shopping trips you name it - if I've needed enough space for gear for me and kids on any sort of day out it's been deployed. It's been on the go around 5 years now and I can't fault it. I don't know if you can still get them, but for my money I'd buy another as a spare if I could.

This one http://www.backcountry.com/ortovox-cross-rider-20-pack


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I ve skied last years model of the Ortovox freerider 26 ( the difference between the 24 and 26, aside from the obvious 2L is torso length important because it has an integral back protector). This years model has a removable back protector which can be used as a stand alone item. 2 main compartments for avvy gear and the rest , along with another couple of small internal zip aways. VVV form fitting and comfy for skiing, extra large neoprene waist strap which provide good "core" support. Possibly too specialist for "travel mode" but I would recommend it for on the piste. May require an accessory snowboard carry but I am sure it is designed for it.

Good product video here
http://youtube.com/v/CDwdRSnqMpw which shows all the features of the various bags, I think from 2010 so updated now.
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Masque, The problem you may encounter is that for a 2 day tour you need something of a decent size, which then maybe too big as a carry on.

The new Freerider 26 from Ortovox has everything you need plus is a lot more adaptable this season, as things like the spine guard are removable when you don't need it giving extra carry space. But you need to watch the hand luggage sizes as the newer smaller restrictions are pretty tough!

I have lived out of my 26 for 4 to 5 days, but only with a close friend otherwise it gets a bit smelly Shocked Shocked

PS Nice cross post mishmash!
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meh wrote:
What's a travel backpack when it's at home?


I suspect it's a backpack for the man who also carrys his other-half's shoe collection.


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These Osprey series are very nice as well, good hip belt arrangement for skiers. I'd be tempted: http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=104131#2387223
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Don't mention it Madeye-Smiley
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Just get some small bags to keep stuff in inside the pack? Lots of choice and colours to keep stuff organised.
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No. You can't have too many packs though.

For riding (as opposed to climbing), I like the Da Kine stuff.

I'm a photog so I use their photo packs, which aren't like climbing bags in that they are designed to be thrown on the ground and then opened. The key bit is that they open from the side with the straps on, so you can actually see your stuff and pull out what you want, and the back doesn't get dirty/ wet. They're over-equipped with straps and can carry board(s) any way you want.

I have the one which is "maximum legal" carry on for obvious reasons. You can fill it with about 25kgs of cameras without difficulty, although that's a lot to ride with.

For other sports I use other bags; like snowboards, you need the right tool for the job.
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Do any of the many larger snowHeads (six foot plus & broad shoulders) have a recommendation for a backpack similar to the Ortovox Freerider 24 about 20 liters or upwards?
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musher wrote:
Do any of the many larger snowHeads (six foot plus & broad shoulders) have a recommendation for a backpack similar to the Ortovox Freerider 24 about 20 liters or upwards?


Yes - the Ortovox Freerider 26!! - the main difference between the 24 and 26 is torso length (26 for over 6 ') and fit due to the back protector! look at the notes on the Ortovox website...
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mishmash,

Don't suppose you know of any stockists in the South West? Very Happy
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lets stay in the other thread now!
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Holy Grail . . . Holy Crap!!!! $1200 for a backpack http://www.rei.com/product/859586/ortovox-tour-32-7-abs-avalanche-airbag-pack . . . there is no way that that price represents anything more than market deception Evil or Very Mad


Pretty though . . . must resist, must resist Shocked
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http://www.backcountry.com/ortovox-deluxe-freerider-26l-with-3-package?ti=U2VhcmNoIFJlc3VsdHM6b3J0b3ZveDoxOjIwOm9ydG92b3g This bag - without the tool and tranny !!! about£ 120 ish I think in UK?
NOT the frigging ABS version!!!
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As in here: http://shop.snowshepherd.co.uk/epages/es122028.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/es122028/Products/ss046742black !!!
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Masque wrote:
Holy Grail . . . Holy Crap!!!! $1200 for a backpack


Pfft. How about $700 for a non-airbag rucksack? http://www.cilogear.com/dyneema45.html

Alternatively, you could just get something custom built. It'll be under $700, but I'm not sure by how much wink http://www.mchalepacks.com
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Masque, surely Mystery Ranch have something to suit? http://www.mysteryranch.com/mountain-adventure/skiing-snowboarding-packs/fuze-pack
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Masque,
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Holy Grail . . . Holy Crap!!!! $1200 for a backpack


Yep that is a little steep but I guess they have import stuff going on as well Toofy Grin
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zammo, I've been using the same MR Fuze for the past five years for pretty much everything and it's going strong still. Awesome pack although that Mint colour is awful.
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Osprey make some solid ski packs;

- they are shaped to allow you to move your arms around without hitting the bag,
- have lots of storage compartments,
- have an all important a-frame ski carry option (safest way to carry skis on your back),
- and a load bearing frame to ensure that the weight is transferred to your hips and not your back and shoulders

I have the 32 litre Kode and it is one of the most comfortable and useful bags I've ever skied with. It has plenty of space for all your one-day adventure needs, without being bulky. If you don't do BC touring you can get away with the smaller (22 litre) version of the Kode, or if you're looking for a multi-day tourer you would probably want something from the Variant series.
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1 problem with the Osprey packs is the hip belt pockets are difficult to unzip or zip when it’s on your back.
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@Masque,

Just one thought - I don't think ski packs are very good for trekking. They tend to be built to hug your back closely which is just too sweaty for hiking in nice weather. Quite a lot of commuting type packs have the same problem and as you suggest all the pockets and zips add weight and reduce weather protection.
If you want a multipurpose pack then I would tend to go for a simpler climbing or trekking pack and perhaps use sleeves / rollbags / stuffsacs to divide your stuff within the main compartment when that is important.
If you only want it for skiing and travelling then quite a lot of ski packs have multiple compartments that should suit you.
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Is @Masque still looking for a travel backpack after all these (6) years?
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doh! Embarassed
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To be fair to @Gordyjh, and @jedster, the thread was bumped by someone spamming their USB Charger backpack Puzzled that's since been moderated away
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