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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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They have talked about it for a while, the issue stopping them putting it up was there was enough money in the road kitty, wish our taxes worked like that.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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It's not difficult to get to Geneva airport without using the Motorway.
40 chf a year is much cheaper than French tolls where you can pay that in one trip...
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Beware, there will be a vignette for Germany introduced sometime during the current parliament. The SDP (socialists) and CDU/CSU (conservatives) announced an agreement on moving towards the introduction of one for ALL foreign-registered vehicles. Those of us with German plates will pay as part of our road tax. No solid indication of when or how much, but I think the groundwork has been agreed from what I heard today. I know the CSUhave wanted it for a long time as here in Bayern we have a huge trans-European traffic load but the money for keeping the autobahns safe currently only comes from Bavarian tax payers and some subsidies from Berlin.
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Posidrive, but you could use the non tax route. Your choice. !!?
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So when is the UK going to introduce a vignette for foreign registered vehicles? 
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I think progress will be made when they introduce some method of foreign drivers paying to drive on our motorways!!
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Alastair Pink, Good idea, especially the Bavarian ones they can pay double and any car with a BVB sticker can travel for free  , It's annoying enough having to pay twice a year just to enter and leave Austria. Then if Holland, Belgium and France introduce this too no one will be able to afford to drive anywhere and as for that umweltsplakette perhaps we could have everyone introduce one of these too.
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I think progress will be made when they introduce some method of road tolling on our motorways!!
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this has apparently been mooted before, on numerous occasions and hasn't happened...
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Samerberg Sue, this one with Germany makes me "a little bit" pissed. Few years back, Slovenia put out this vignette system and the one complaining most about this were guess who... Germans! Because they would need to pay vignette when going to seaside. At that time there was was yearly and 6 months options. And our idiots just agreed to change it, so Germans can drive freely (well... with 10days one) to their holidays. Now when they will put vignette out only for foreigners everything is cool. And yes, we do pay road tax too, which foreigners don't, but I still need to buy vignette, otherwise it would be discriminatory against other EU citizens. Weird German option is not discriminatory against others.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I don't really see the problem, everyone has to pay the same M6 toll and the Dartford Crossing after all, it's not cheaper for UK residents who already pay road fund licences.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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With the amount of road works around us at the moment, I'm not surprised the road kitty is feeling the pinch.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Fattes13, what's Poland got to do with it?
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UK residents who already pay road fund licences.
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I don't think any UK resident pays for a road fund licence. Not since 1936 at least.
A lot of UK residents do pay their car tax though - or Vehicle Excise Duty.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Tirol, ??? Link brings you to this
The cost of a Swiss motorway tax sticker could rise 150 per cent if the government and parliament have their way. But a referendum against the increase has been called for November 24, so voters will have the final word.
An outcry followed the announcement that the tax “vignette” - an annual levy required to use all Swiss motorways and dual carriageways - was to shoot up in price from CHF40 to CHF100 ($44-$110) from 2016.
Opponents complained that the increase was too high, that foreigners would be getting special treatment because they would benefit from a new short-stay vignette and that small and-medium sized companies with vehicle fleets would be at a disadvantage.
Soon, a committee against the increase was founded and 107,424 signatures were collected within just three months – only 50,000 are needed to put a proposed bill to a popular vote.
“The private citizen, the driver, is being ripped off, with nothing being given back in return,” said Nadja Pieren, a rightwing Swiss People’s Party parliamentarian and co-president of the referendum committee.
“We won’t have fewer traffic jams or better connected roads. We'll just be paying more for roads which have already been built, which are currently funded by the cantons, and which the government is to fund in the future.”
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UK residents who already pay road fund licences.
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I don't think any UK resident pays for a road fund licence. Not since 1936 at least.
A lot of UK residents do pay their car tax though - or Vehicle Excise Duty. |
Noted (I haven't paid UK tax for years so forget these things) but I don't think an error in terminology completely negates my point here.
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| Posidrive, but you could use the non tax route. Your choice. !!? |
I know it was our choice, but we were in a hurry to get him onto the only flight availble at short notice. Very nearly didn't make it. It was also quite a few years ago when (a) we were all relatively skint and every penny counted and (b) We didn't have SAT Navs to show us the way. Now I would use the SAT Nav and stick 2 fingers up to those who police the Vignette system 
Just felt a bit peeved. We don't tax the Swiss when they venture onto our roads.
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| Posidrive wrote: |
Just felt a bit peeved. We don't tax the Swiss when they venture onto our roads. |
Compared to the French charges though it is very reasonable....from Geneva to Chamonix return for example it is about chf 18 a day, for an hour's journey each way. There are also toll roads in many other countries, and a handful in the UK (Dartford and Severn crossing for example).
I agree though that it would be good to have a short term 10 or 20 franc pass.
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We don't tax the Swiss when they venture onto our roads
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We tax (or charge) them when they venture on to our toll roads. They charge (or tax) us when we venture on to their toll roads. I think that's fair.
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| I agree though that it would be good to have a short term 10 or 20 franc pass. |
Yep I would have been quite happy with that. Forcing people to pay for a whole years worth of use for 1 short return trip is just unreasonable
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Posidrive, but nobody's forced. Getting from France into the airport without using the Swiss motorway requires very little in the way of navigational skills.
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Switzerland aside, I'd imagine that as with trains, electricity and mobile phones the European project will call for the breakdown of national monopolies on road tolling and at some point allow eg AREA in France to operate roads in Italy and Austria, so someone with a beeper will be able to trundle across three countries and just see it all on their usual bill when they get back. Being landlocked the Swiss might even open up to that one...
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albinomountainbadger, there's already an EU directive for that (for HGVs at least), and some countries already have interoperable onboard doofer systems. Think German and Austrian ones already do?
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You know it makes sense.
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andy, yeh was just searching to see if it was in the pipeline and the HGV directive from 2006 popped up. Apparently the commission/whoever aren't happy with it though, want to do 'more'.
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