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Best (wicking) base layers

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Right.... I think I've bored everyone to death with my search for the perfect ski shell. Moving quickly on let's deal with base layers now.

I sweat like a trooper once I start (not sure troopers sweat a lot but it sounded right....) and currently cycle 40 odd miles 3 times a week to keep up my fitness levels for skiing. Am looking for the perfect thermal base layer that will keep me warm (but not crazy hot!) and has excellent wicking properties. I have 2 merino wool ones currently which work well for the skiing but have already found them too warm for the cycling.

Maybe I need different types of layers for cycling and skiing, does anyone have experience of a base layer that might fit the bill for both jobs?

Thanks!
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Do you really need a base layer for cycling?

I only ever use one if it's really brass monkeys.
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Not really for insulation but more for getting the sweat away from my body. Maybe using the wrong strategy (and wrong forum rolling eyes ) but I need something to carry the sweat away. Fairly new to the biking so maybe I need to get on a biking forum and see what most cyclist use.
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mesh - i use Craft mesh baselayers for cycling and actually used them for skiing last year. for skinning i would wear a very light windbreaker (patagonia houdini) over the top and add a fleece over the top of all that if it was really cold

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/craft-cool-mesh-superlight-sleeveless-base-layer/

i got a couple of these on sportpursuit for skiing next year

http://www.aclima.no/products/coolnet/polo-w-zip

keeps the mesh but nice to have some fleece to keep the neck warm and in higher wear areas where mesh can be a bit fragile

if you're a sweaty betty (like me) merino just wets out and even light man made baselayers (eg patagonia capilene 1) doesn't dry out as quickly as the marketing blurb would have you believe. IMO anyway
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Arno, thanks for that info, most helpful. Those Aclima layers look perfect, just read the blurb on them and I think they are exactly what I need and will work for both cycling and skiing. Crew neck ones fine as all my mid layers have collars/polo necks to keep the neck warm. Now to find somewhere that sells them over here..... gutted I missed them on SP, I use the site a lot but never noticed that sale!
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swishtony, here you go

http://www.nordicoutdoor.co.uk/aclima.html

the craft cycling stuff is pretty good and cheap if you want to experiment and see whether you get on with mesh before spending too much cash
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Arno, many thanks, Google found nothing! Just ordered a mesh one from Wiggle for £20, bargain! I think it might do the job perfectly for the cycling and I can always stick to the wool layers for skiing.
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I still just go for a simple thin Helly Hansen Lifa top combined with a shell for skiing. If it's really cold I'll use the high wicking t-shirt underneath. I use them for cycling as well and find them fine.
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I have tried loads of the wicking type stuff, Helly Hansen, Adidas clima cool, Nike dry fit etc.

I used to get the Adidas clima lite tennis stuff as its cut nice and loose and never feels restrictive.
However, I recently got a berghaus Argentium top and find it amazing. In the last couple of week's crappy weather I have been running in my mountain equipment Firefox jacket and found that all my various tops started to hold moisture and started to wet out the jacket in certain areas. The berghaus top doesn't seem to do that at all, it seems really efficient.
So much so that after a 10k I stopped to stretch out and could actually see the steam vapour coming off my back through the jacket yet the jacket was bone dry on the inside by the time I got home a couple of minutes later.

I'm going to be getting a few more in I reckon.
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When cycling, I find my cycling jersey is as good at wicking as anything else. When it's cold I might wear an underarmour base-layer but that's about it.
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I also cycle as well as ski and own Helly Hansen Lifa, Icebreaker Oasis 200 and Odlo Evo Warm. I've found the Lifa to be the best all rounder, it wicks sweat much more effectively than the Icebreaker, but isn't as warm. The Odlo also better at wicking sweat but is noticeably warmer. Saying all that the Icebreaker is the nicest top that I wear most often.
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Arno, Bought one of those mesh layers, it is brilliant! Had a very hilly ride last night and worked up a real sweat. Skin totally dry but top was soaking..... now to get a decent breathable jacket!
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swishtony, great - glad it's working for you! Cool
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