 Poster: A snowHead
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The piste map for st anton is confusing me, I know you can't get up the second stage of valluga without a guide but is it possible to go up first stage and slide down, say to st Christoph on piste, looks like there is a red that does this but maybe a wee drag lift involved? Want to avoid the dotted line itinerary route although am interested in whether guides and avalanche equipment are needed for those runs or if two competent intermediate boarders could tackle them[/i]
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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kb36, IIRC that drag has a steep section near the top.  But the run itself wasnt to bad. A while since we were there though.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Piste all the way and fairly easy reds. Ski down from Valluga 1 to the T-bar, which might be interesting on a board. Then you have a choice of 14 down to Alpe Rauz via Ulmerhutte, back to St Anton via either 14 and then Steissbachtal (Happy Valley), or via Schindlerkar. The latter is shown as a route, but almost always groomed.
Last edited by Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? on Sat 12-10-13 8:45; edited 2 times in total
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I the words interesting on a board worry me somewhat
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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It is a fairly steep T-bar. The walk out, if you blow it, would be serious slog. What I am saying is... make sure you are comfortable riding T-bars, before tackling this one.
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Missed your 2 other questions...
You cannot get directly to St Christoph from Valluga 1 / Vallugs T-bar. Your choices are St Anton or Alpe Rauz. The latter provides access to Stuben.
The runs I noted are avi-controlled and marked. You do not need avalanche gear any more than any other piste. You do not need a guide for those runs.
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Ride tbars a lot in scotland at cairngorm and glenshee so fairly used to them
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The t-bar is a bit of a pain on a board, but alright if you are used to it (friend of mine ended up having to walk it after falling). Only ever done it once in 5 winter seasons in the Arlberg, and from what I remember there is also a gentle section of downhill as well as the aforementioned steep. Be aware that heading back to St Anton on a board from Valluga/Schindler/Arlenmahder involves a blue section which is very much flat, you need to build up speed on the downhill after you turn skiers left once past Ulmerhutte. It is possible to do without the need to stop and unstrap on a board, but even skiers struggle without needing to pole. Take a look on YouTube for Weisserausch videos as that is the route from Valluga 1 to St Anton (albeit without the aid of the T-bar).
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There is a traverse, take skier's left off 14 above Ulmerhutte, it crosses the lower slope of Schindlergrat and cuts out the flat section mentioned, rejoining the piste downhill of the Ulmerhutte.
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That t-bar off the Valluga iis very steep, I would describe it as absailing uphill. Good luck!!
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