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another 2 way walkie talkie thread

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hi all,

this is my first post so don't slag me much please? lol
basically me and the missus will be going snowboarding for 3.5 weeks in colorado and it was only on a BA flight that I saw these watch walkie talkies. I thought this is pretty cool and was about to buy it but decided to do some research and also get your help before I buy anything.

https://www.highlifeshop.com/products/childrens-gifts/walkie-talkie-watches

Yes I know the above is for kids lol but thought it was cool coz we could just put it on our arms and can communicate with each other. I guess the main focus of getting this would be just in case I go ahead or she goes ahead and can't find each other then we can just call each other on the walkie talkie. Ok if its only going to be us two then why do we need walkie talkies when you'll be snowboarding together.

An example of what happened to us, when we were snowboarding down the slopes in Val Thorens (we were near the ski lifts) and I was just going off-piste (well just going on the side where its untouched lol). I went ahead of her and she was on the main slope just going down so then I stopped after my lil excitement and then I couldn't find her. I waited for a bit then decided to go down to near one of the carpet lifts and waited. No sight of her so got worried, didn't know if I had to walk all the way up there to retrace/find her but I decided to snowboard down to the gonadola lift where we said we'll try and get 1 more run before we left for the day and there she way - she flew past me when I was going off-piste on the side! If we had walkie talkies then she could have told me she was at the gonadola waiting for me.

So its kinda hit or miss with getting walkie talkies - i think the other thing I would get annoyed is that I'd probably have my walkie talkie in my jacket pocket and if I needed to contact her, then I'd have to take off my gloves to call her and she would also need to stop and take her gloves off to talk back - i know its probably not a big thing but I don't know - what do people think that do have walkie talkies?

In conclusion
1) should we get a 2 way walkie talkie
2) if so, is that kids one enough? lol
3) or get something like the following (saw from previous threads)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cobra-MT600-Walkie-Talkie-Radio/dp/B000SA93L4?tag=amz07b-21
http://www.amazon.co.uk/2-Way-Radio-Twin-Walkie-Talkie-Charger/dp/B0006FOARI/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1228944612&sr=8-8&tag=amz07b-21
4) don't worry about it and just use our mobile phones instead? (issue with this is that its going to get wet if its snowing hard but if a clear day should be ok but we'll also be on USA mobile plans hopefully anyway)


Background:
We're 2 x 30' year olds aussies doing our working/travelling adventure in London/Europe and its time to settle town (we're engaged). Firs time snowboarders and just learnt it here in Europe, the missus took a while to learn but on our last 4 day snowboard trip to Val Thorens, France she loved it and we were able to go snowboard pretty good (well doing the S turns and being comfortable with turning). I wouldn't call us beginners or advanced, intermediate would be better (oh how i had flats! lol).
Our Visa is finishing up and we're doing a 5 month trip around USA before heading back to Australian summer. I realised that we were hitting the start of the snow season so I thought, f$$k it, lets do it! so i found airbnb accommodation and ski passes here in UK and locked it in. We're planning to buy our snowboards in the states so it will give us motivation to save up for more snowboarding trips! Smile

thanks all
Madeye-Smiley
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We bought our first set years ago, (after getting split up trying to go round the Sella Ronda -the big orange arrows are apparently not big enough). The first set took AAA batteries and was a bit of pain in terms of taking chargers with us to recharge the batteries second set I bought second hand were massively smaller and came with integrated chargers. I have absolutely no regrets getting them. So i would say, go for it
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1) Wait to buy walkie talkies til you're out in the US. Europe and the US have different assigned frequencies for these "family radios" so you may be intruding in the wrong bandwidth.

2) Reception is often pretty crappy in the mountains as valleys, trees, rocks, weather all seem to play a part. Line of sight over a much smaller range than advertised would be my tip.

3) US PAYG mobile tariffs are not particularly generous and/or can be pricey. Certainly difficult to get some of the things we can get in the UK like 6 months unlimited * data for £20

4) Walkie talkies like basic Cobras or Motorolas are available everywhere from Walmart to ski shops pretty cheap. Obviously unbranded/house brand cheapest.

Where are you going?
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Prankster, Welcome to Snowheads! snowHead

Firstly, the British Airways watch type walkie talkies you referred to are claimed to have a range "up to 100ft", which is pretty useless if you want to use them on the mountain (most walkie talkies will have a range of a few km in contrast).
Secondly, the Cobra MT600 and the Oregon Scientific TP329 walkie talkies from Amazon.co.uk are PMR446 types, which is the standard (i.e frequency band and power) for such walkie talkies within Europe. As the linked article states, these frequencies are used by licensed amateurs in the US and Canada, so if you want to be strictly legal then you'd be better off waiting till you get to the US and going to somewhere like Wal-Mart to buy a pair of the US standard FRS walkie talkies, e.g http://www.walmart.com/cp/2-Way-Radios/164120
Hope this helps. Madeye-Smiley

Edit: I just noticed that you mentioned you were Aussies and aimed to go back home fairly soon. Just to confuse matters further, it seems that in Australia the legal walkie talkies operate in a band designated UHF CB on 477MHz, which is different to both European pmr446 and US FRS walkie talkies. Don't you just love different national technical standards... wink


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I've not got a set but did ski a day with some people who used them and to be honest it was almost comical how poor they were.

Mobile phone calls, while not all that cheap when travelling, are pretty fool-proof.

But my favourite is the rather low tech approach of agreeing which lift/restaurant/landmark/whatever you're going to meet at for each run and then if you do get separated you can just head there and find them.
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Of course always best for when you're in a group and your mate gets on the chair in front or behind with strangers so you can ask him loudly how the syphillis is clearing up and how the paedophilia trial is going. May not be so much fun with the missus.
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fatbob, i understand from recent UK media coverage that paedophilia is properl referred ro as "The Hobby"...... Shocked
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Go for option #4

In my experience the proper PMR radios are great toys to have, but almost useless on a ski holiday. Reception is a real problem in the mountains, you probably still have to carry a mobile phone, the batteries don't last long etc. etc. Save your money for the minuscule extra cost of your phone bill.

If you are worried about getting separated on the mountain buy a bright yellow ski jacket like mine!

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Thanks all for welcoming on the site - theres a whole bunch of info I definitely have to read up before our snowboarding trip Madeye-Smiley

I guess since its just us two so basically i'm happy if we had walkie talkies and were able to keep in contact within 100 metres (of course that depends on what obstacles are around us and line of sight etc)

With regards to mobile plans, I did see this plan for $30 which had 100 minutes, unlimited txt and 5GB via t-mobile. I'm planning to get it but not sure If I should get one for my partner but suppose just in case

so sounds like with your all your feedback, I will not buy it here from UK and if I needed to buy one, just get one from walmart. Was hoping to just get some cheapo walkie talkies that cost maybe $30? lol

regarding the different frequencies between aus and USA, i guess i'm only really using it for our snowboard trip in USA but suppose I could use it for another time, though unless its a rechargeable unit

also regarding the ski jacket - yes didn't know what we were thinking when buying our initial clothes, I guess I was just trying to find some cheap good warm clothes but it was black so yes when we were in the snow fields it was hard trying to find each other lol so definitely i'll go to a ski shop in LA before our trip and get some bright colours (not sure how I will be with yellow? how about orange or blue? lol)

oh and also where we are going
Breckenridge 25th November to 2nd Dec
Vail 2nd Dec to 7th Dec
Beavers Creek 7th to 12th
Aspen 12th to 19th
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LA isn't your best bet probably. Dillon/Silverthorne near Breck have plenty of big ski stores and an outlet mall for buying clothing.
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oh really Dillon/Silverthorne? Basically we won't have a rental car for our stay as we're going to get transfers and then do the bus between the towns plus not sure if we will have time as basically we arrive on sunday and then attempt to start our snowboarding trip on the monday

wonder how this option can be viable for us...
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Prankster, I was joking about the yellow jacket!

Regarding the radios, I hope you got the message that the 100m ones would be completely useless. At that diStance you might as well shout.

You can get Decent PMR raios for £50, so don't even thimk about thetoy ones.

TBH I really don't think you'll need them anyway. Use a mobile, send texts etc.
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foxtrotzulu wrote:
Regarding the radios, I hope you got the message that the 100m ones would be completely useless. At that diStance you might as well shout.


It's worse than that - the link prankster gave to the BA advertised ones said they have a range up to 100 FEET (not metres)! Definitely better to shout over that range ... Laughing
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oh really Dillon/Silverthorne? Basically we won't have a rental car for our stay as we're going to get transfers and then do the bus between the towns plus not sure if we will have time as basically we arrive on sunday and then attempt to start our snowboarding trip on the monday

wonder how this option can be viable for us...


I d check out what size and product I wanted from a UK store and then order with these guys or similar to coincide with my arrival : http://www.backcountry.com . I ve rung my accommodation in advance to advise that I ve got stuff coming and its worked perfectly every time for me. Perfect solution to accessing best US prices and max snow time. For cheaper thermal layers, socks etc also look at LL Bean, Eddie Bauer etc. There is plenty of choice.
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