 Poster: A snowHead
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I hear on the grapevine that the Canadians have approached the ISIA to be granted card status and that they have been inspected and are in the final throws of getting approval. Just thought I would pass on as many here are advised not to go down the CSIA route as their licenses arent widely accepted outside of Canada. I dont know if members will need to do extra modules or what. for the stamp they need an avalanche training module and first aid course in addition to the L3 award..
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Mon 25-04-16 22:02; edited 1 time in total
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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CSIA Level 1 = 18 hrs
CSIA Level 2 = 30 hrs
CSIA Level 3 = 42 hrs
So that's 90 hrs of on snow time.
Can't remember how many hrs of classroom time I did for those, maybe 1 per day.
So that's another 15 hrs.
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Where does the ISIA card actually help you work? I know in Argentina they are quite strict about equivalencies, but anywhere else?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Looks like that is for the stamp, not the card. The ISIA has two levels, stamp is the first level and card the top level. Currently about 15 nations in ISIA can issue the card.
PSG
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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jimmer, The Card is fairly new, Switzerland is main ski area that it is recognised within Europe, A BASI or Irish L4 gives you card status that can be used to gain a Swiss Patente. I believe Japan has gotten card status for their top certs and NZ as well. They are running an ISIA tech test in Cardrona in Sept. sharpen your GS boards and get down there 
Also, the Eurotest was meant to become THE standard for equivalence within the EU but after a pilot programme last year has failed to attract enough countries to vote it into law so things may change and the ISIA Stamp and Card may gain some recognition but who knows...
the political problem is that France, Austria and parts of Italy are at war with the ISIA as they dont control the board nor the standards. Typically BASI are siding with the French while saying in public they are supportive of the ISIA pyramid structure of qualifications. Confusing eh...
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Not just CSIA though, CSCF (racing), CASI (snowboard), CSGS (back country), CANSI (Nordic). You get your proficiency badges from all over the place in Canada  .
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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| Kenny, question is how does CSIA expect members to reach 320 hours? Pay all their different branches/affiliates to do loads of courses? Works out more expensive and time-consuming than BASI. And that's saying something. Truth I reckon is very few CSIAers bother. |
I agree and quite frankly ISIA is irrelevant for the vast majority of Canadian instructors because they don't need it to get year round work. However every qualification you have increases your basic pay and your likelihood of getting work. The courses are exceptional value IMHO. I did the CSCF level 1 a couple of years ago and for significantly less than the cost of a 1 day private lesson I got 3 days (and evenings) with a coach who had 20 years coaching the US and Canadian national teams.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I believe for many instructors the ISIA stamp is irrelevant as they are already working in a vibrant industry that does not export ski teachers.
The ISIA stamp / or card will serve a purpose for instructors wanting to move around the globe. Plus it does get you various discounts with lift tickets etc.
I think another factor in holding the stamp / or card is that as a personal achievement you can reference your education level against other associations. You have reached a “standard” which is recognised as a professional level.
I have skied with many ISIA licence holders from many nations. One thing that is clear, although all different they all performed to a good standard.
From an employers point of view instructors with ISIA should have completed the minimum training hours and education. This is useful to know.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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skimottaret, it still doesn't seem worth the effort to get the card, I have the stamp and have more than enough work in both hemispheres. I'm kind of tempted to go back to NZ sometime, but Chile is really so much better.
Does anyone on here have the card? Has it proved worthwhile?
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I have the card ( through BASI and also IASI). I know the Swiss issue it to their top certs and it is well recognised there. There are 15 other bations who issue it in the ISIA family as I know of.
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You know it makes sense.
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jimmer, yeah I hear you on that, until the card gets some traction and is more widely recognised may not be worth the hassle but on the other hand as gilleski says an L4 badge cant hurt your prospects and if you get your tech pass in early before your knees are buggred could be good for the future earnings
where is your stamp from ? basi ?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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skimottaret, Oh for sure if it was run anywhere near me I would give it a crack, but as far as I know there's no races run on Hokkaido or in Chile so it's a bit of a moot point. I have my stamp through the NZSIA, I actually emailed BASI about what I'd have to do change systems but they didn't get back to me 
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Poster: A snowHead
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jimmer, try giving the office a call. My understanding is that to switch to BASI they ask you to go back one level, so you would get exemptions from L1 and L2 but need to do L3.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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jimmer, You could also try emailing IASI they seem to have a better policy on granting equivalence than BASI do. If you are interested in obtaining the Card, in BASI you must do the Eurotest, they dont recognise the ISIA test. IASI offer two exits at L4, if you pass all the modules and the ISIA tech test you get an L4 and ISIA Card, if you pass the Eurotest you get an ISTD, ISIA Card and EuroSki Pro license and you are sorted within Europe.
http://www.iasisnowsports.ie/
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