 Poster: A snowHead
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Hello all,
I'm booked onto a BASI 1 course in the winter and am looking to buy my own skis. Usually I ski twin tips as I'm the sort of guy who likes a bit in the park a bit on the piste and a bit off the piste and on the moguls! I understand however that the course is very focussed on technique and as such a decent pair of on piste skis would be better. I'm disinclined to purchase a pair of these however as I feel that after the course I won't really want to use them that much and I'll be yearning for twinnys ( I should say I'm doing the course for no other reason than fun, I don't have much ambition to become and instructor...yet!). I spoke to the company that runs the course and they said, whilst a decent pair of piste skis would be ideal, for just the level 1 course you could get away with twin tips.
As such I'm looking for a pair of versatile all mountain skis with a slight on piste preference, or simply a pair of twinnys that won't turn like an oil liner and that I can carve well in! The pair I've been eyeing up have been the Salomon Rocker 92's (I understand they're the new twenty twelves?) or even the Arma El Rey's or Triumphs...My feeling being that if I get a pair of versatile twinnys I'll definitely get some use out of them, and if I do find them a bit cumbersome for the BASI course I can always rent a pair out there for the test days.
Thoughts and suggestions please 
HD
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Providing that they are not center mounted and not symmetrical I would have thought that you could easily pass L1 on a pair of twins. You probably don't want anything wider than mid 80ish underfoot though
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I thought that the main objection to twin tips was that snow thrown up from the tails prevents the trainer seeing what you are doing from behind.
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hoggiedogg, L1 just isn't that big an ask, so pretty well any skis will do if you can handle them
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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hoggiedogg, slalom skis are the easiest to pass on, I saw a group doing 1 at HH recently and a girl on a pair of Atomic SLs was on the best for the job.
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Cynic, IMO slalom skis (as opposed to piste skis) are best avoided unless you've done some race training and are already comfortable on them. I have seen many recreational skiers held back by thinking that slalom skis (or fat skis for that matter) would make them ski better.
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| slikedges wrote: |
| Cynic, IMO slalom skis (as opposed to piste skis) are best avoided unless you've done some race training and are already comfortable on them. I have seen many recreational skiers held back by thinking that slalom skis (or fat skis for that matter) would make them ski better. |
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hoggiedogg, welcome to snowHeads. Just for your info, you mention "test days" on the L1. In general BASI courses don't work like that, as they are a process of continuous assessment so there is no "test day" as such.
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hoggiedogg, from memory of my l1 folk on 80mm+ were encouraged to hire thinner skis for the week.
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I passed my L1 on park skis with touring bindings - so go ahead!
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hoggiedogg, from what I gather, it's more about your trainer's opinion than what you actually slide on. There is a clear bias toward a 'mid range, piste orientated, carver' for L1/2. Talk to your course director before asking us numbnuts what's best.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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As someone above said, the back of your twin tips will send some spray up that could make your carving seem a little skiddy when in fact your turns are ok.
Give yourself the extra advantage - use a pair of piste ski's for that week. Don't get me wrong, twin tips are fun to blast about on but a piste ski will feel a lot better when going a little faster and when trying to show off your clean carve lines.
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Thanks for the replies guys, some good advice there!
I think I'll wait and probably just rent some piste skis for the week, and maybe buy myself some twins when I get back!
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You know it makes sense.
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| hoggiedogg wrote: |
| I think I'll wait and probably just rent some piste skis for the week, and maybe buy myself some twins when I get back! |
That's a good plan. It's an enjoyable course, so hope you get lots from it.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| kitenski wrote: |
| hoggiedogg, from memory of my l1 folk on 80mm+ were encouraged to hire thinner skis for the week. |
Hmm I have Volkl Auras which are 90 something or Elan SLX but they are pretty stiff at slow speeds, not sure what to use?
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Poster: A snowHead
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lynseyf, I used some very stiff Storm skis for my l1, 65mm underfoot, they were fine! I suspect you will struggle with performance shorts and longs on a 90mm wide ski.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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lynseyf, you can do L1 on any skis you feel comfortable on as nothing that demanding will be asked of you during a L1. However when you are asked to demonstrate personal performance, it's done at speed and is easier and more fun to do on performance skis *if you can get the performance out of them*. The stiffness won't hold you back on the slow stuff because that's all skidded, I mean steered 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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ok thanks will probably take the slalom skis as I can carve better on them
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The level one course is of very little consequence and merely a means of getting people into the system. At higher levels ie: two up to full cert twin tips would not be at all suitable, however for the level one and the low level of technical ability required I'm sure that they wouldn't pose a problem.
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