 Poster: A snowHead
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| Toadman wrote: |
| and the snow doesn't care your nationality. |
Exactly. Just your weight and timing
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Rendl open again .....
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Trains running yet ZRH - St Anton anyone?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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We are at Level 3 today...
It is still considered dangerous.
Folks were breaking all the warnings yesterday and dropping into Descents when it was at Level 4 all over Arlberg.
Perfekt conditions...
Cloudy at weekend..very cold at night
More snow later next week...
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Were there any avalanche incidents yesterday?
I had it penciled in as highly likely tbh, as with all the fresh snow, previous high winds, sunshine & it becoming warmer yesterday afternoon, it all looked set for disaster....
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@stanton, There is an issue that folks think "Level 3" is somehow safe because its less than 4 or 5 when in fact it means there is still a relatively high risk of avalanches.
From Morris over at Wepowder
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| Avalanche danger CONSIDERABLE (3 on a scale of 5) is estimated by many as 'average' and gives a false sense of security. But anyone who dives deeper into the avalanche danger scale immediately sees what it really means. There is a significant avalanche danger when the rating is CONSIDERABLE. The snow cover is then moderately to weak on many slopes that are steeper than 30 degrees. Spontaneous avalanches of medium size are possible. The weight on the snow cover by a single skier or snowboarder may be sufficient to cause an avalanche. That sounds a lot heavier than 3 on a scale of 5, doesn't it? |
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@munich_irish, i know all that and have mentioned many times on here over the past seasons about Leve 3 & the false sense of security
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| horgand wrote: |
Were there any avalanche incidents yesterday?
I had it penciled in as highly likely tbh, as with all the fresh snow, previous high winds, sunshine & it becoming warmer yesterday afternoon, it all looked set for disaster.... |
Another assumptoon
Fact is they (fatals happen when least expected more times than most...
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Folks looks like the descent from Galzig (forseable future) will be
Kandahar Black Piste
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Galzigbahn
Or
Ski Route 1
Off Piste below Osthang
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@stanton, top secret source no doubt.......
Was surprised to see that Mattun was open yesterday (thought it was closed last year with Steissbachtal?)
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@thecramps, interesting video
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You know it makes sense.
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| thecramps wrote: |
| http://youtube.com/v/0pSBUXFJXiY |
Wow, terrifying but also extremely insightful video.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Does anyone with local knowledge happen to know when the Arlbergbahn is likely to reopen? OEBB has the disruption dates as 13-18. SBB is highlighting it for travel today, but not tomorrow. As I’m planning on traveling tomorrow evening, it would be great to know if my planned train will be affected! If yes, the additional phaff of 2 additional changes and additional 1h travel time for the replacement bus might tip the balance in favor of driving.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| stanton wrote: |
Folks looks like the descent from Galzig (forseable future) will be
Kandahar Black Piste
or
Galzigbahn
Or
Ski Route 1
Off Piste below Osthang |
Happy valley closed for the season again?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| munich_irish wrote: |
@stanton, top secret source no doubt.......
Was surprised to see that Mattun was open yesterday (thought it was closed last year with Steissbachtal?) |
Mattun was still open last season. Can't see Steissbachtal opening any time soon TBH. Comments from people who were off-piste yesterday was that they were surprised how stable some of it actually felt. Having said that, the full depth cracks that can be seen going up the Kapall chair (and downslope of the barriers under it) have definitely widened since yesterday, and a few more starting to open up.
@Gämsbock, not heard anything, but from what I saw of the line Landeck side of St Anton the tracks have been ploughed and the rails are visible again so it can't be far off.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| munich_irish wrote: |
@stanton, top secret source no doubt.......
Was surprised to see that Mattun was open yesterday (thought it was closed last year with Steissbachtal?) |
Mattun was still open last season. Can't see Steissbachtal opening any time soon TBH. Comments from people who were off-piste yesterday was that they were surprised how stable some of it actually felt. Having said that, the full depth cracks that can be seen going up the Kapall chair (and downslope of the barriers under it) have definitely widened since yesterday, and a few more starting to open up.
@Gämsbock, not heard anything, but from what I saw of the line Landeck side of St Anton the tracks have been ploughed and the rails are visible again so it can't be far off.
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Has Steissbachtal been closed from the start of this season? Or closed recently?
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@thecramps, great video. That is very instructive to see up close. It's wonderful you survived that!
I spent a winter in the mountains of Alta, Utah about 10 years ago and saw a lifetime's worth of avalanches big and small. I hardly saw anybody with an ABS bag. I suppose they were too new at the time. A handful of people triggered avalanches that year and a few people unfortunately died. But overall, most people seemed to ski prudently in the backcountry.
Now I live near the Alps and everyone I see even on the piste seems to have an ABS pack. And I also see a lot of people skiing in places that are very dangerous. And I'm starting to wonder if the airbags are giving people a false sense of security and replacing good judgement. It almost seems like a form of moral hazard.
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Travelling by Train Landeck/Buldenz
There is a Bus replacement service,
you need to call OEBB on a special number on website to guarantee a seat which you MUST have
Also need to allow at least 60mins extra travel time..
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| altaski8 wrote: |
| Now I live near the Alps and everyone I see even on the piste seems to have an ABS pack. And I also see a lot of people skiing in places that are very dangerous. And I'm starting to wonder if the airbags are giving people a false sense of security and replacing good judgement. It almost seems like a form of moral hazard. |
All Four Germans killed in Lech lastweek (Langerzug)Avalanche had Airbags,, all were activated in time but were no use at All.
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| VolklAttivaS5 wrote: |
| Has Steissbachtal been closed from the start of this season? Or closed recently? |
Just recently..after after the last massive dump...It is to dangerous .
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| stanton wrote: |
Travelling by Train Landeck/Buldenz
There is a Bus replacement service,
you need to call OEBB on a special number on website to guarantee a seat which you MUST have
Also need to allow at least 60mins extra travel time.. |
Doesn't say anything about having to have a seat, it's just for those with mobility issues to guarantee assistance and "barrierefreie" travel.
Having looked on their Facebook page, there is a comment from ÖBB saying they will be reopening 18:00 tomorrow
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| stanton wrote: |
| VolklAttivaS5 wrote: |
| Has Steissbachtal been closed from the start of this season? Or closed recently? |
Just recently..after after the last massive dump...It is to dangerous . |
Ok thanks
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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In North America, most accidents occur during level 3 (considerable).
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You know it makes sense.
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And interestingly, a greater percentage of fatalities occurs when the Avi warning level is 1 or 2, versus 4 or 5.
So obviously while the mountain risk is lower when the Avi index is lower, but significantly more people ski off piste at those lower Avi warning levels, so much so, that there are more fatalities when the Avi index is lower than higher, with Avi index 3 being coincident with the highest fatality incidence.
(of course, the frequency of days with a particular ava risk will also affect these statistics I.e. If the ava warning level is 2 say 3times more often than 4, then all else being equal, there's likely to be 3 times the number of fatalities at ava warning level 2 versus 4 over that season say )
Last edited by You know it makes sense. on Thu 17-01-19 18:56; edited 2 times in total
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Most avalanche accidents in Europe occur at Level 3 too
Last edited by Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: on Thu 17-01-19 18:46; edited 1 time in total
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Poster: A snowHead
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@horgand, does that include all fatalities though or just those involved with avalanches?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Sounds like there will be plenty of snow for when I arrive at the beginning of February. Hopefully everything is back up and running again by then.
I was originally meant to be in Serre Chevalier for the week but they haven’t had much snow of late so decided to change plans to Austria instead.
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| Sitter wrote: |
Having looked on their Facebook page, there is a comment from ÖBB saying they will be reopening 18:00 tomorrow |
@Sitter, thanks very much, I didn't think to look on Facebook. SBB this afternoon changed the Friday trains to saying replacement bus service as well, so I was feeling fairly resigned to it. We've decided to take the train despite the extra hassle. However, my train is due to leave Bludenz after 6pm, so I shall keep my fingers crossed I get straight through!
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This link no longer works so does anyone know if trains are back to normal now?
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@o11y, not quite:
http://fahrplan.oebb.at/bin/help.exe/dn?tpl=showmap_external
Has the disruption still ongoing, but as sitter helpfully discovered on the OEBB Facebook page yesterday, they are planning to reopen the line at 6pm today. I’m traveling this evening so I’ll let you know if I get through!
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2 nice dumps have reappeared on the forecasts for the middle of next week.... Thank you Snow Gods -yummy
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There was a short, sharp burst of snow last night around 5:30pm... looked serious, but the morning light revealed that nothing much had come of it.
Most of the area is now open, apart from Vallugabahn 1 & 2 and Schindler. There were 3 or 4 groomers yesterday working the piste from Schindler to Ulmerhütte, so that may open soon. The back of Albona was not open yesterday afternoon.
It has been a lovely quiet week. Alas, the crowds will soon be here. Sigh!
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Cold wintry temperatures & sunshine will prevail next week..
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| ulmerhutte wrote: |
| It has been a lovely quiet week. Alas, the crowds will soon be here. Sigh! |
Due to the weather improvements, or are there Austrian/German holidays next week?
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FAQ
It was just a video I found on YouTube. Still, it is very interesting, and yes, the guy was very lucky. 
