Poster: A snowHead
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I think someone should develop a Mod ski, and then we can watch a real riot start when it comes to determining which is best.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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K2 skis had MOD technology for years before they went rocker.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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zammo, It'll get down alright with someone who knows what they're doing but the Barry Manilow front end will not feel nice at all . . . lots of inertia there.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Isn't this thread about 7-10 years too late?
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Isn't this thread about 7-10 years too late?
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No, you need to wait for the 2015 thread in which under a new name admits he might have been wrong.
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I think I'll have to reserve judgement till I try them. I was just worried that if I don't like them the trend seems to be for rockers to appear on most skis I'd have gone for before (such as Missions).
I've never had any problem with tip dive and I'm not sure I want my skis to smear a turn more. Especially in breakable crust you want to force the ski into a clean carve. Not sure how this would play with a rocker.
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snowball, on the crust front absolutely fine and in fact it's easier than trad camber as the contact point is further back and combined with the rocker engagement is way more progressive so the ski is a lot less hooky. Basically in any snow where more ski than just the ski edge is engaging (most conditions even on piste) you'll more often than not be skiing the whole length of the ski with the sort of tip rocker put on things like the Missions.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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snowball wrote: |
I think I'll have to reserve judgement till I try them. I was just worried that if I don't like them the trend seems to be for rockers to appear on most skis I'd have gone for before (such as Missions).
I've never had any problem with tip dive and I'm not sure I want my skis to smear a turn more. Especially in breakable crust you want to force the ski into a clean carve. Not sure how this would play with a rocker. |
About 4 years ago I had similar reservations. I was wrong (generally when skiers think of rocker then think of extreme examples such as K2 Pontoon!)
The reality with "all-terrain" rocker is that the effect is quite subtle and you can happily carve on boiler plate. For sure, its a marketing buzz-word (in simple terms 'rocker' = 'big ski tips with contact point moved perhaps 5-10cm back') : but it does provide an incremental performance improvement for all-mountain skis in variable snow.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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snowball, I think there's still something to be said for the longer effective edge and grip of a trad ski in certain circumstances like icy couloirs, sketchy traverses and no-fall zones. That said I've regularly seen people on rockered skis skiing very burly lines though perhaps not the 3000ft Alpine variable. In North America it's almost a no-brainer - you're unlikely to be encountering extremes in snow condition in a single run (barring wind polish) - a soft day is a soft day.
For those whose life is less extreme a rockered ski does enable you to ski more creatively in 3D snow.
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You know it makes sense.
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^ Plenty La Grave mountain guides use the rockered skis as their daily driver. (S7s / Sidestash / Dynastars etc)
Last edited by You know it makes sense. on Wed 16-01-13 13:30; edited 1 time in total
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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fatbob wrote: |
In North America it's almost a no-brainer - you're unlikely to be encountering extremes in snow condition in a single run (barring wind polish) - a soft day is a soft day.
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My one experience of Heli Skiing in Canada everything above the tree-line was proper breakable crust (ie you broke through on the turns - usually). In the trees was nice powder.
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Poster: A snowHead
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I'd be gutted if I went heli-skiing and got breakable crust.
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