 Poster: A snowHead
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I'm North Bristol... 10 mins off of the Bath junction of the M4.
For me, it's easy to drive East along the M4. Whenever i drive West along the M4, I invariably hit traffic at Cribbs or Avonmouth. During the summer holiday months that stretch can be horrendous.
I used to Ski at Gloucester, Churchill and Pontypool...many moons ago.
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A related question that I've been wondering about is the impact a project like this would have on the local dry slopes, closest is the Avon slope (Churchill) which I suspect is sadly the most likely casualty. To the south, and I think probably slightly closer than Gloucester is Yeovil Alpine Village, I don't know the slope so can't really comment apart from to say it looks pretty small. There are a few others too but they're slightly further away. As for Gloucester I think it may survive (given some investment and a strategy for maintaining a market share) but I suspect some of the local ski clubs might be tempted to move to the dome for training which might affect the slope but I guess time will tell!
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Roga its almost a given that the novelty factor of a 'new' fridge pulls many slope users away from their usual facility. In the case of Ski Rossendale the opening of ChillF tipped a poorly run facility over the edge. Some years on we have a situation where Ski Rossendale is now closed, ChillF is not very busy and is churning out special offers, the latest is 2 hours for under £12 for members, £17 for others. I dont know if this is sustainable, but i do know that many skiers and boarders are now regretting the closure of an outdoor facility. The recession is certainly hitting hard in this area of spend.
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Roga its almost a given that the novelty factor of a 'new' fridge pulls many slope users away from their usual facility. In the case of Ski Rossendale the opening of ChillF tipped a poorly run facility over the edge. Some years on we have a situation where Ski Rossendale is now closed, ChillF is not very busy and is churning out special offers, the latest is 2 hours for under £12 for members, £17 for others. I dont know if this is sustainable, but i do know that many skiers and boarders are now regretting the closure of an outdoor facility. The recession is certainly hitting hard in this area of spend.
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Interesting reality check 
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sunnbuel, I have been at CFe today and last Saturday and it looked fairly busy to me.
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sunnbuel, The multiple speciial offers have a lot to do with the new CEO formerly of Alton Towers who is using a well tested format of filling the facility with lots of cheaper use rather than a few more expensive sessions. Her track record is fairly good and It her 'style' of leisure management.
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kevindonkleywood, you are correct about ceo, i posted to that effect on another thread when she was appointed. However, i do know quite a few of the staff and they say things are quiet - instructors are not getting much business. rjs, you would expect saturday and sunday to be the busy times.
CEO is going for footfall and hoping for spend on retail and catering. rjs, despite the great offers CFe is deffo not as busy as it used to be.
The main point i am making is that Roga is spot on in saying existing facilities will suffer/close if a fridge opens in west country.
Got to be careful what you wish for 
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Got to be careful what you wish for
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So true, but just having negotiated some great full day deals for various groups Im a great fan of the discounts  but equaly i like a quiet slope.....just so fickle
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kevindonkleywood, 
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The full detailed planning application for the Leisuredome is now in and can be seen online here, you can feed back on the proposals (hopefully showing support) by using the "Comment On Application" link at the top of the Case file page.
All comments so far are positive and comments from anywhere I'd guess are helpful but there are few local comments so I'm sure it'd help if anyone in the WSM council area made some positive comments too. I'm in Bristol but will add my comments too - I'd say the more support the better! 
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roga, Thanks for the links, I'll add my comments in due course and tell other skiers I know in S. Glos.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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^ lol, ooh arrr send in the carrier pigeons 
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You know it makes sense.
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Objections on the North Somerset planning website (all local, some of whom clearly haven't read the transport proposals) now stand at 5 whereas support is at 7 - a few more objections and they'll outweigh the support!
Can I underline that if you want this project to go ahead now is the time to support it!
Latest from the Leisuredome guys:
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roga, I've now commented (in favour of course  ). Let's hope it goes ahead.
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Poster: A snowHead
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I'm not sure that letters of support/objection make any real difference at planning level in the relatively small numbers we're talking about here. What will make a difference is canvassing the local councilors and those who sit on the planning committee. If you live locally get hold of your local councilor and talk to them about jobs, commerce urban regeneration, youth opportunity etc etc etc. 
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billb, nice one
rogg, I guess you could be right but I suspect too high a proportion of objections might tip the balance in the case of councillors and others in positions to affect the decision if they are undecided on the matter, certainly there's been a spate of objections these last few days so there's either co-ordination or people there's a snowball effect. To counter that I'd say the more positives the better, especially if they're mentioning issues like jobs, commerce urban regeneration, youth opportunity etc.
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not sure about any weight the objections have, recently a local pub was demolished to provide affordable housing, the village its in, Congresbury isnt very large at all and there were some 1400 objections to a tesco express being built on this land, the planning still went ahead anyway!! why is this relevant, involves the same councillors!!
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Thank God it's not Bristol City Council... Merchant Venturer's anyone? 
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roga, Supporting comment submitted.
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Support given. I would be driving up most weekends for this.
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Good news, the planning committee report is now posted on the North Somerset website and is recommending approval of the application subject to certain provisions. You can read the whole report here
There is also a notice on the website of a committee meeting, which I presume is a consultation exercise prior to a final decision.
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NOTICE OF COMMITTEE MEETING
FOR 11/P/0923/F2
The above application is to be considered by the South Area Committee on 21 July 2011. The meeting commences at 6.00pm and it will be held at the Town Hall, Weston-super-Mare. The room number will be displayed in the temporary Town Hall reception area on the day of the meeting.
The committee report will be available for inspection at the Somerset House reception five working days prior to the meeting and on our website at www.n-somerset.gov.uk.
Objectors to, and supporters of, planning applications may address the committee. The number of speakers and the time permitted for speaking is limited. We have prepared a guide to explain the procedure for speaking at planning committees which can be found on our website at www.n-somerset.gov.uk/Environment/planning/planningcommittees. Please note that requests to speak at committee must be received in writing by noon the day prior to the committee meeting. |
Hopefully this'll be a formality and won't delay final approval!
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roga, formalities do not exist with planning approvals.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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iskar, good stuff, do let us know how the meeting goes.
Any idea how long a referral to the Secretary of State is likely to take and can the objectors appeal any decision to give the go ahead?
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You could have a read here. I thought there was an automatic right for a third party to appeal a decision, but reading this it doesn't seem to be the case. (has this changed in the last ten or twelve years?) fingers crossed.
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You know it makes sense.
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rogg, interesting and yes I thought any third party could appeal but it seems not if I'm reading that page right, they do mention new rules since April 2009 so perhaps it's changed. All the same I was under the impression the Snoasis proposal was in appeal hell for years but perhaps that's on the basis of all those rare newts in the quarry they want to use! Let's hope they don't find any rare wildlife at Locking eh!
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I wonder how the Secretary of State will view this scheme in so far as to whether it fits in with UK policy for cutting greenhouse gas emissions ?
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rayscoops, he's a politician ... need I say much more!
600 Jobs in a Tory constituency beset by employment and economic problems or a marginal rise in emissions offset (at least in paper stats, and we all know about them) by a cut in people travelling much further to get to similar facilities and any other 'facts' they can lay their hands on ... hmmmm!
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iskar, excellent!
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Yeeha, nice one!
Thanks for confirming they got the go ahead - was there much discussion or did it just go straight through?
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great news. Makes the prospect of the odd business trip to WSM more bearable!
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iskar, Great news, thanks.
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Mmm, wonder how long it would take me to drive to WSM...?
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rob@rar, and what's wrong with Hemel?
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roga, thinking it would be nice to ski both
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