| How many hard falls do you take per season? |
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6% |
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19% |
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| can't remember: I hit my head... |
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4% |
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 Poster: A snowHead
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As per the original instructions,
If in doubt, leave it out.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I think that on pistes which are fairly hard packed the best method to fall is to roll with it as far as the 'sliding on your back' point and then just spin like a turtle. Always keep your skis clear of the snow, preferably to the rear of you and do not attempt to stand up until you have completed the slide. I fall a great many times on jumps and pistes when pushing my limited skills, but it is very rarely that I even suffer bruising. I guess that if you can relax when falling then so much the better.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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masmith, well- yes!
googling 'ski injury' gets you to the ski-injury.com site- which is a mine of info about rates of well- ski injury!
Hard injuries are quite rare- but if yoy blow your acl- expect at least 1 night on hospital food- 'a hard fall'
amazingly according to this site telemarking is the safest snow sport- with less severe acl injuries as well
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I've fallen a few times this season - maybe 5 or 6 in 4 weeks of skiing. Almost all of them were of the low speed tumble/strategic sit variety, and none were hard - all but one were on deep powder snow (i.e. knee deep or more). On three of them my skis released, but I have the bindings set to 3.5 because of my bad knees and so they will release pretty easily. On only one did I have to roll over to bring my remaining ski below me to arrest a slide.
So the last big crash was last season in Austria, right under the chairlift, resulting in a "car boot sale" of equipment scattered right over the slope 
No bruising or pain on any of them even the big crash in Austria.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| masmith wrote: |
I like you're thinking. Or going that bit further, the 'hardness' of said fall to be quantified by the resultant number of nights in hospital ? So taking it to the extreme:
0 nights in hospital = get on with it you pussy
1 night in hospital = hard fall
2-3 nights = very hard fall
4+ nights = extreme respect |
I think any hospital VISIT would qualify as "hard" falls. And one tend to be a bit more timid for a while immediately after a sled ride followed by a recommended hospital/doctor visit. If you can't get down the hill on your own after a fall, it's "hard".
(Some people get really shaken up after a fall that had no bruising. Others continue skiing with bloods running down their face. So the definition is more personal than scientific  )
I've had a few of those in my 10+ year of skiing. But still way below 1/"season". Intend to keep it that way.
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I have had thousands of falls this year, there is a Rob (me) shaped furrow carved into most of our resorts pistes, even off piste - not intentional (and the odd tree). This all being down to "testing" of my new secret weapon - the "WMD" 
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in garbure we trust, Can't wait to see this much heralded WMD 
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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| in garbure we trust wrote: |
| I have had thousands of falls this year, there is a Rob (me) shaped furrow carved into most of our resorts pistes, even off piste - not intentional (and the odd tree). This all being down to "testing" of my new secret weapon - the "WMD" |
Have you taken up boarding?
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waynos, jeez,was he run over by a piste basher?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Here's something to think about:
The worn-out saw "learn from our mistakes" is familiar to most.
Memorable falls stem from a mistake or flaw, surely.
Do we learn more from -memorable falls- or the mistakes we don't trouble to remember, that have a less negative outcome?
Status: 27% percent of respondents don't expect to have a memorable fall next season. 3 falls per season really tough, apparently. Numbers for ONE real baddie and 4 or more, get up regardless really close at the moment.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I think I learn with both, in different ways though.
The more "memorable" falls tend to worry me and left a "never repeat" mark in my brain, which isn't always the most benefitial. (I'm NOT counting binding release as "hard" fall, remember, only sled rides and hospital visits).
The less memorable falls still offers the feedback of "do something different". But not the negative of "DON'T DO THIS AGAIN!" (not too useful).
(BTW, my less "memorable" falls still occasionally left small bruises, but I tend to lump those into the same catagory of "soft" falls nonethelss, and tend to forget them after a few days  )
I think the less memorable falls tend to provide positive feedback and hence are more useful learning tools. While the "memorable" ones tend to bring on fear, which does not much for improvement of tecchnique. (but are nonetheless useful for self-preservation)
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I think as you improve, you generally fall much less often despite skiing faster/harder terrain. You would expect a total beginner to fall often, probably on almost every run at first. Experts rarely fall, even on the toughest runs. If I was taking a hard fall 4 or more times a season (30 ish days in my case) I'd seriously question my own ability. From the 97 votes so far, it's interesting that people either rarely have a hard fall or they are prone to falling quite often.
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You know it makes sense.
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Normally have one spectacular one every year last year it was that bad the lads thought I was dead but walked away with a bruised shoulder. Normally involves a tree or a cliff face
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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uktrailmonster, Yes, I agree to an extent but I've found that you fall less and less on piste, then when you start venturing off piste, the falls start again with a vengence! 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Quite right, maggi! It goes more like this:
- First, lots of falls on piste while learning. Trying to stay upright was a challenge. Lots of little bruises too. Then, you got better and better and you don't fall much at all
- Then you went to some easy off-piste when condition is good, some falls. Then you go off-piste a lot, and in all different conditions, Lots of falls. Eventually, you started to get the hang of many of the off-piste conditions and fall less and less.
- Then someone persuaded you to give racing a try. The gates were set on a red piste anyway so it doesn't look all that bad. So you try it and you start falling, sometimes with your skis caught in the gate poles!  Then you either got better at it or you think it's not such a good idea and gave it up. Back to skiing piste and off-piste without much falling...
- Then you start going into the half pipe or skiing backwards. The fall starts again, with a vengence!
- And if you get past that stage, you start jumping off cornieces or small cliffs. More falls again.
Or you take up snowboarding, or telemark... you know what that does to your "falls"...
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I luuuuve fallin I dooo 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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maggi, Good point. There are several occasions where you would have to go through a new "learning curve" and accept a few hard knocks along the way.
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