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@Dave of the Marmottes, buy a compressor to pop the bead on!!
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@Dave of the Marmottes, if the wheels are tubeless ready it's pretty easy. You'll probably want tyre levers and a decent pump too (you want to get a lot of air in quickly to seat the beads properly).
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@Dave of the Marmottes, Pretty much, check and see if your tyres say 'tubeless ready' on them. I have Peatys valves that come with a handy spoke tool on one cap and a valve core tool on the other, my other half has Muc Off valves which seems fine too. If you get one of the sealants that go in through the valve with the core removed then you have to get the core back in and air in sharpish before it gets blocked. We've found these inflators to be pretty good for seating beads.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-dmp180z-18v-li-ion-lxt-cordless-inflator-bare/662pr
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It will s possible to get tubeless tyres on with just a standard track pump if you don't want to buy one, but you do have to go at it like crazy. I just have a standard track pump but my arms will ill feel exhausted by the time that I have got the tyre to seat
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Will an ordinary car 12v compressor work?
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@Dave of the Marmottes, Probably
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
Will an ordinary car 12v compressor work?

Probably not, a proper compressor has a resevoir full of air available "NOW" a car compressor doesn't have that resevoir. There are many videos on YouTube of people using empty pop bottles, car tyres etc as a reservoir to give the large rush of air required. You can carry out your own risk assessment wink
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I have a track pump where you flip a switch & pressure a reservoir, then flip it back to inflate fast. That is supposed to give the extra force you need. Get 'em on Amazon etc.
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Yeah special reservoir pumps are making this sound a Pita. Maybe just airline it at the garage?

Of course macho me says I bet I can track pump it. No doubt I fail in a sweaty mess.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, that cordless Makita one I posted isn't masses more powerful than a 12v one and I had to do one of my tyres with the pump on one of those public bike repair stands so a full on workshop compressor is overkill. Obv with a 12v car tyre inflator you'll need a presta adaptor but that's hardly going to break the bank!
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DaveyGTi wrote:
@Dave of the Marmottes, that cordless Makita one I posted isn't masses more powerful than a 12v one and I had to do one of my tyres with the pump on one of those public bike repair stands so a full on workshop compressor is overkill. Obv with a 12v car tyre inflator you'll need a presta adaptor but that's hardly going to break the bank!


They are superb as tire pump. Used one very extensively (so often on other's kit when there's problem) worth every penny in our experience. We do have other Makita tools with obviously common battery that make sense for us too. Only shortcoming is you can set and let it pump, but use a release type zip tie around trigger to let it continue for this. Pressure can be set though to cut off at prescribed figure, so pretty easy.

The car pumps, VAG group tire pump is pretty good too, with no problem inflating to high pressure.

For getting tires on and easy beed POP I use silicone grease around each tire's bead, just a very, very fine smeer all around and they'll pop up onto correct position at about 25 psi. Makes it extremely simple to put on without levers and then inflate.
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@AndAnotherThing.., for mtbing 1x set ups definitely have a performance benefitd, the biggest of which is the ability to use a narrow-wide chainring which are very effective at preventing the chain from coming off. Next is that you getting into the correct gear on terrain where you would have been alternating between the big and granny ring is much quicker than on a double or triple set up, and finally a smaller chainring than you would have with a triple ring (facilitated by a 10 or 11 tooth gear at the cassette) gives more ground clearance. Lots of people are sceptical before they try but almost everyone who does try is fully won over. I would never go back to a double or triple ring set up for off road riding


The subject bike, having an 8 speed setup, will likely not have the option to use less than 12 tooth "top gear" on rear cassette. They change to different mounting in facilitating smaller gear total there, so 11 &10 choice wouldn't be available.

Many different components can be used in changing the bike spec, knowledge of which bits fit a prerequisite though.

Reality for 8 speed conversion to 1X type though .... probably looking at 12 to 32 rear cassette range, in teeth # to give decent scope and likely without changing derailleur etc. Accompanying that, a 34 tooth front ring to keep it within workable effort range. Big legs, and you'd probably start with a 36t front. Smaller legs, a 32t front, both to give decent start point.
All for a 26 inch wheel cycle.

27.5 & 29 wheels will use different ratio set, likely smaller front ring, but also would have later type cassette mount to make use of more extensive rear ratio sets too.
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Never had any issues popping tubeless tyres in to place with a cheap, very plastic SKS track pump. Just need to pump like mad for 5-6 strokes to get the tyre basically in to place, then keep pumping like normal until you get that satisfying ping. That's the same for Conti 26er XC tyres, Maxxis 27.5 on the FS, and Schwalbe 700c gravel tyres. I always fill the jizz via the valve afterwards, so get the tyre seated first. The conti and schwalbe tyres stayed at usable pressure for weeks before I actually got round to putting the goo in, which surprised me.

As for 1x, should be able to fit anything up to 11sp with an 11t smallest cog (unless there's something weird with the frame). Got 11-42t on mine and could go up to a 11-46t no problem. Probably some pretty good deals now for 11sp parts?12sp with a 10t smallest cog might be technically possible but totally uneconomical, and will be fun finding 26er wheels with microspline/xd hubs with presumably ye olde QR dropouts.
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Tyres: the only setup I needed a compressor for was on the fatbike. Those 4.8" tyres are a bugger to fill with a track pump.

1X: converted 2 bikes in the past. Don't worry too much about your lowest gear unless you race.
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Standard track pump; nothing else required.

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standard track pump worked fine for my modern tubeless road bike, completely failed on a 2009 set of rims/tyres both marked as tubeless compatible, also tried car tyre pump then gave up, cleaned it all out and put tubes in! to be fair they didn't even pop out with an inner tube in, mates compressor did the trick!

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Dave of the Marmottes wrote:

Of course macho me says I bet I can track pump it. No doubt I fail in a sweaty mess.


Depends on the tyres. I’ve done 4 Maxxis Exo+ tyres with no issues at all with a decent normal pump, but other tyres or casings may be more difficult. Ie burlier downhill casings or whatever.
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@ski3, Thanks for that. Quite a lot to consider.
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@kitenski, as you've illustrated, its not all a bed of roses with some products.

Some are extraordinary in their reluctance to beed up into position, seeing sometimes up to 70 psi being unsuccessful.

You can have some very good quality products that really don't want to be together in one combination, and just very awkward to work with Very Happy

For ad hoc rim sealing, narrow band Gorilla branded duct tape is pretty effective, if there's no competent bespoke fit product available.
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so as a follow up to my question, there is a shiny new 29" on it's way, sadly to be kept under cover until Xmas, there are some decent bargains around, esp if the company takes Cycle Scheme! This shop was a pleasure to deal with and there are still some of these left at Trek UK apparently!

https://www.bicyclechain.co.uk/shop/bikes/sub/mountain/trek-2023-top-fuel-9-8-gx-axs-gen-3-12113142/option/
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@kitenski, nice wheels!

But wow they need to work on their ChatGPT prompt engineering Laughing

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