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No, I am told he has been limited to one post a day on SnowHeads and has shifted his trolling of Inside Out Skiing to Facebook...Sigh....
Back in January he posted regarding usage of a logo on various pages on Facebook and we patiently answered his questions in private and then in public. The reaction by other ski instructors on FB was similar to here but he seems to feed on the oxygen of conflict and continues to repost the same information every few months even though no one cares. A few of his posts were removed back then as they contained links to his own FB "news" page or contravened forum guidelines...
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Thank heavens he's not a Facebook friend of mine!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Nor mine but the problem is that he can join open forums there to do with BASI and troll there. He also set up an anti SH's page to vent his rants...
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@skimottaret, Seriously? What a tvvat
SHs I am sure has its faults, not least being a terrible occupier of otherwise productive time, but WTF?
How can you have an anti-ski-chat-down-the-pub page?
What. A. Tvvat.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Beyond grotesque. 
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As we are seeking peoples votes for SnowSports School of the year I will reply in detail to allay any concerns that members of SH's may have of my business through continual allegations by Mr. Goldsmith. Some who will know has been banned from the Ski Club of GB forum and has been severely limited and moderated on what he can post here. This is Rob and I's business and livelihood.
To try to clear up any confusion caused regarding the photo that was posted on Facebook and Snowheads page by David Goldsmith
When working in the Trentino region of Italy we apply for a license to teach under the European temporary provision of services directive EC2013/55 which covers us for the week(s) that we are working there. Once we submit our paperwork (Instructor licenses, criminal records checks and liability insurance) to the regional authority in Trentino they send us a temporary licence, which specifies the date and location we will be teaching.
I am an L3 and Rob is an L2 and we have been granted temporary licenses to practice there. There are a lots of visiting instructors who work in the area, from mainly Poland, Slovenia, Denmark and the Netherlands, all bringing their own clients. The system they have put in place to monitor visiting instructors from outside of Italy is that foreign instructors need to carry our temporary license paperwork on us when on the hill AND wear an arm badge patch showing country of group origin so that the local Police are able to easily see who is legitimate, with papers in order, without having to "control" you on the hill in front of clients. A neat solution all round.
The patches were provided via the local ski school, who gave them to us after we showed them our Italian temp licenses. The patches have either a Maestro logo (for Italians from other Italian regions) or ISIA logo with their respective national flag for foreigners.
The patch contains the Logo of the International Ski Instructors Association (ISIA). Mr. Goldsmith may be confused as many years ago the ISIA “stamp” was only granted for the highest level of instructor in a national association and the corresponding logo was a stamp of quality assurance. The ISIA has created a “pyramid” of recognised qualifications a few years ago. At the top is the ISIA “Card”, then ISIA “Stamp” and an “Association” stamp for lower level instructors. National Associations, like BASI in the UK have their qualification levels checked against the ISIA’s minimum standards and are then aligned with other nations. The ISIA Card and Stamp are not licenses per se but rather a global quality assurance standard to compare qualifications from different countries. Here is an example for BASI qualifications http://www.isiaski.org/download/20111010_Budapest_MS_assessment_en.pdf The use of the ISIA logo does not imply any “level” of qualification in a similar way that use of the generic BASI logo doesn’t imply a specific level.
That’s why Rob was wearing an ISIA logo, he wasn't trying to pass himself off as L3 and he only wears it when he is in this resort and not at Hemel or elsewhere. His bio on our website clearly says he is L2.
I could care less who makes these patches and who controls the issue of them.
Ps I am Irish and wasn't trying to pass myself off as a Brit but they don't have any Irish flagged patches 
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| skimottaret wrote: |
| No, I am told he has been limited to one post a day on SnowHeads and has shifted his trolling of Inside Out Skiing to Facebook...Sigh.... |
I think you mean "pedalling", or "pushing". He may also have been a troll, but he could not "troll" his own product.
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@PaulC1984, I have two passports 
Problem is mud sticks and casual readers of this forum may think where there is smoke there is fire so sadly I need to continually spend time refuting this rubbish here and on FB.
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@skimottaretwhich is the same as rob's orginal response that he posted on slow ski news hub. Nothing underhand from your side scott/rob. Just a case of dg's new venture, he promised on here would take up lots of his time, which clearly hasn't been as successful as he planned not actually working out in that respect.
The original question may have carried some merit, but to continually question the response is somewhat childish.
'are we there yet?'
'are we there yet?'
'are we there yet?'
Slightly sad.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| philwig wrote: |
| skimottaret wrote: |
| No, I am told he has been limited to one post a day on SnowHeads and has shifted his trolling of Inside Out Skiing to Facebook...Sigh.... |
I think you mean "pedalling", or "pushing". He may also have been a troll, but he could not "troll" his own product. |
Inside Out Skiing isn't his product, it's Scott's/Rob's product.
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@PaulC1984,
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Well if you ever need backup, I'm sure there is plenty here who would pop along to Facebook
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Indeed. Where do we go? I like having a good rant occasionally. 
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| ansta1 wrote: |
| @skimottaretwhich is the same as rob's orginal response that he posted on ... |
And exactly the same information that I provided to David when he first emailed about this, months ago. But it seems to me that the facts don't fit with the narrative he is trying to promote, so he repeatedly poses leading questions (a familiar tactic to anyone who has spent time on snowHeads). So now I'm getting this nonsense on snowHeads, on Facebook and abuse by email where he suggests that it would be a terrible thing if Inside Out Skiing won its category of the World Snow Awards. Frankly, I'm at a loss as to what to do.
However, I have been greatly encouraged by the kind words (and votes!) expressed in this thread and by messages here and in Facebook. It really is hugely supportive, so many thanks.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Hurtle wrote: |
@PaulC1984,
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Well if you ever need backup, I'm sure there is plenty here who would pop along to Facebook
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Indeed. Where do we go? I like having a good rant occasionally. |
As much as I appreciate the sentiment, I think David seeks and thrives on that type of conflict. Best to ignore it.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@rob@rar, This is very true!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| GlasgowCyclops wrote: |
PS: I am not a spy or lost my eye in a fight with Jason Bourne BTW (before you start). |
Thats an accusation id never make
Bears however
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@rob@rar,
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As much as I appreciate the sentiment, I think David seeks and thrives on that type of conflict. Best to ignore it.
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Spoilsport!
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| Hurtle wrote: |
@rob@rar,
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As much as I appreciate the sentiment, I think David seeks and thrives on that type of conflict. Best to ignore it.
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I could not ignore his "Magnum" Moniker.
Great expletive laces revier of skis on youtube by him.
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@GlasgowCyclops,
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I could not ignore his "Magnum" Moniker.
Great expletive laces revier of skis on youtube by him.
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Could you translate, please?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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What's the guy with the gun up to Bob????
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@PaulC1984, 
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I remember the fuss Scott and Rob made about having to sew those damn badges on their jackets. All Wayneo's fault, I expect.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I think if anyone is reading this thread in future please just do a general shout out on SH for opinions on inside out. I am very confident you'll get lots of great responses and good reviews.
My wife and I have used IOS once and we found the day excellent. So much so I'm using my precious holiday to do more days. I've had 4 different instructors in the past (due to holiday instruction) and these guys are up there at the top. In that one day my skiing progressed massively.
I don't post much but I've been reading this forum for a couple of years and and regardless of the troll IOS are what being a SH is about. The post counts alone show what this community is about and willingness to contribute by far demonstrates your character, no troll or self advertising person can achieve 33k posts !
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Badges? badges? We dont need no steenkin badges.
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The fact that I enjoy skiing so much, despite being old, crumbly and unathletic, is entirely due to the efforts of Inside Out Skiing. They took my technique (ie my collection of bad habits) completely apart and put me back together again as a reasonable skier who can keep going on most pistes all day, without getting tired. I am more than grateful. They are also jolly good company, especially when there's some prosecco around.
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