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| Steve Angus wrote: |
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| Damn, I missed that. Is the piece online anywhere, it would be nice to see Clare being interviewed. |
Its on her Instagram page here:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVSHDAlooZX/
Hope it works. Copy and paste job perhaps! |
Thanks Steve. I though that was excellent, she did really well. I did a live radio interview once and found it a terrifying experience, but Clare looked calm and was extremely clear in all her answers. Top marks!
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| PeakyB wrote: |
Did I read there’s a new multi storey car park in Val Claret as part of the masterplan?
If so, maybe the last bit to be built?
I think the regular Tignes thread on here had plans, details and comment last month. |
Yes, I think so. Built on the first bit of the site that you get to when you arrive in Tignes, but they are using that space as a construction compound this year.
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Hi Steve, question please about the Champs Avalins in your neck of the woods La Daille.
Is it still running...we have stayed there a number of times through Ski Total and Inghams, but it seems to have disappeared off the radar for booking it for this season (actually looking for next, but anyway)? I hope we can somehow as it was one of the few affordable places to stay left in Val and great location.
Cheers.
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Hi @Steve Angus, we're coming to Val D'Isere for Christmas week and are wondering how to manage the Pass Sanitaire for the kids who will only have 1 jab by then. I see the Solaise Pharmacy will be providing anitgen tests, however many other pharmacies across France only seem to do these on an appointments basis with limited appointments available. Would you be able to find out what the provisions will be for the British teenagers showing up - i.e. can we just drop in every 72 hours or do we need to plan appointments in advance? Thanks in advance (and we'll be in touch for the lesson we missed a few years back when we were staying in Tignes!)
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You need to read what the French govt websites say about teenagers and unvaccinated
As for pharmacies it’s likely they will require appointments booked if you consider how many people in your situation are going to be after tests in peak season weeks
Give the pharmacy a call and book them in as soon as (everyone will be doing the same!)
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Put a quick Motte ski report in t'other EK group. General gossip around Val; no restaurants open, nadda. Only bar currently open is Blue Note, which is good for Matt and Emma at least. The Casserole closed last week, for good. The building owners have taken it back and won't do anything with it. Same is happening up the Rue de Park Des SPorts and Rue de Coin in anticipation of the dreadful Coin development which has been mooted for years and, IMHO, will do great damage to Val, turning it (even more) into a rich persons ghetto. The Lodge bar is closing (yet another good seasonaires place going), but the restaurant will probably limp on.
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@Dr John, all sounds a bit concerning - The Lodge was always a favourite for a cheap pint until 8pm when we were there! Just been reading about the development, does it finally seem like it might get underway then?
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| snowornever wrote: |
You need to read what the French govt websites say about teenagers and unvaccinated
As for pharmacies it’s likely they will require appointments booked if you consider how many people in your situation are going to be after tests in peak season weeks
Give the pharmacy a call and book them in as soon as (everyone will be doing the same!) |
This link below should tell you everything you need to know about entering France from another country and should be the location where any changes to procedures are posted.
https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france/coronavirus-advice-for-foreign-nationals-in-france/
Note - France is using a traffic-light system for countries you may be entering from. UK is currently an 'orange' country.
If dependants are entering France with adults who are fully vaccinated then the dependents don't need to be vaccinated. But if they're over 12 and unvaccinated they'll need a negative PCR taken less than 72hrs before entering France or a negative antigen test less than 48hrs before entering France.
Coming back to the UK, the UK rules apply, which for England would now be a private LFD test on day 2 after arrival back in the UK.
If the adults travelling are unvaccinated then I don't think travelling for holiday from an 'orange' country would be one of the permitted reasons for travel and entry to France would be prohibitted.
At least the above is my reading of the current rules in preparation for a business trip in a few weeks time. Of course, the regulations could change at any time.
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Thanks both. I am well versed in the rules for entry and return. What I really want to know is how to get some peace of mind around getting access to the Pass Sanitaire for the teenagers whilst we are there.
I have contacted a pharmacy in Bourgeois St Maurice who said they won’t open up their appointments until the end of November. I’m also waiting for a response from the Solaise pharmacy in resort. I would (perhaps unreasonably!) hope that the resort would recognise this potential problem and have plenty of capacity to test British teens during the season
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Is your concern that a pre-trip negative test result expires part way through your trip and therefore a re-test is required?
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Pre trip tests can’t be used for the Pass Sanitaire (at least not the lateral flow tests we have booked). So we will need to get lateral flow tests for the kids (aged 15 + 13) every 72 hours (basically need 3 during the 8 days we are staying) for them to be allowed access restaurants (and potentially lifts). But it’s really not clear whether in-resort pharmacies will be set up with lots of capacity and testing on demand, or if there will be a booking process. I’d rather not leave it to chance. Hoping someone on the ground can help find out how it will work in practice.
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@dunc999, yep, gone the same way as Pacific and Morris. Val needs to avoid the homogenization trap and ensure enough regular bars & restaurants survive to keep the cosmopolitan and inclusive feel that makes it so great. If a venerable old restaurant like the Grande Ourse can be closed down at the land owners whim with nothing to replace it then nowhere is safe. The very wealthy might fund the the 5 star hotels and uber-chalets but they don't go out in the evening, all their cash stays behind closed doors with private chefs and wine cellars.
As for the Coin development, who knows. On the one hand I hear the original planning application has either expired or will do very soon. On the other, it seems landowners are preparing for it and they will probably know more than I and the seasonnaire gossip mongers do. I do know from speaking to Henrick that if it goes ahead then he will cash in his chips at the Danois and won't bother with a new one. Suspect he won't be alone in that so don't believe the development website about the new Danois/Lodge/Whatever.
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| ma94jcg wrote: |
| Pre trip tests can’t be used for the Pass Sanitaire (at least not the lateral flow tests we have booked). So we will need to get lateral flow tests for the kids (aged 15 + 13) every 72 hours (basically need 3 during the 8 days we are staying) for them to be allowed access restaurants (and potentially lifts). But it’s really not clear whether in-resort pharmacies will be set up with lots of capacity and testing on demand, or if there will be a booking process. I’d rather not leave it to chance. Hoping someone on the ground can help find out how it will work in practice. |
As I'd been reading up mostly to figure out how to handle my business trip I hadn't consiered the impact for 12-17 yr olds. And my son falls in that group!
Have you seen the testing info on https://www.valdisere.com/en/healthcare-protocol/
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You know it makes sense.
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Yeah, seen that. It’s as far as I have got. Calling the pharmacy on the number shown gives a recorded message. Unfortunately I don’t speak French and I can’t get it to translate as the recording quality is so poor. Need help!! Think it says something about only testing certain days but need to know how to speak to someone to book a test
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Interesting that recorded message
When I tried to book tests thru the number off Sante.Fr website I got a recorded message too!
I ended up calling the hotel and a very helpful receptionist looked the pharmacy number up in the local directory and surprise surprise it was different and when I called I got straight through and sorted tests out very efficiently!!
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| snowhound wrote: |
Hi Steve, question please about the Champs Avalins in your neck of the woods La Daille.
Is it still running...we have stayed there a number of times through Ski Total and Inghams, but it seems to have disappeared off the radar for booking it for this season (actually looking for next, but anyway)? I hope we can somehow as it was one of the few affordable places to stay left in Val and great location.
Cheers. |
Sorry slow reply. Just been making our way back to the UK for a short holiday!
Anyway to address your query.... tbh I have no idea whatsoever. All I know is that post brexit and with covid and SOOOO much uncertainty the whole market has been TOTALLY turned on its head! Everything from recruiting staff to attempting to be profitable is tricky to put it mildly. The building is still there of course but what is happening with it this season / next I dont know. Sorry not the most useful of answers but I really dont know!
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| ma94jcg wrote: |
| Hi @Steve Angus, we're coming to Val D'Isere for Christmas week and are wondering how to manage the Pass Sanitaire for the kids who will only have 1 jab by then. I see the Solaise Pharmacy will be providing anitgen tests, however many other pharmacies across France only seem to do these on an appointments basis with limited appointments available. Would you be able to find out what the provisions will be for the British teenagers showing up - i.e. can we just drop in every 72 hours or do we need to plan appointments in advance? Thanks in advance (and we'll be in touch for the lesson we missed a few years back when we were staying in Tignes!) |
Hi folks. Sorry off air as been getting back to the UK and having my birthday but catching up on this chat now.
So firstly this 'situation' is VERY well known about - the authorities know this problem is coming down the track! First and foremast will be the decisions the government(s) take on the situation in general and secondly what they do locally. Although last season never happened as such dont forget there were some French (for some of the season at least) travelling to ski via touring. Val set up a mobile testing centre in a hut near the Spar Petrol station.... I have heard rumours that they are likely to do the same again (in multiple amounts if needs be) if the situation arrives. It should be noted that there is ongoing decision making about whether passes for this or that will / won't be needed and for whom. For all the talk about 'everything decided' in terms of 'no pass sanitaire needed for adults to buy lift passes' etc and the rest of it nothing has been 100% finalised and of course could change at the last minture anyway! So what I would say is if the resort are going to welcome Brits and other nationalities and there is a requirement for testing etc then something will be put in place! Thats all I know.
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| Dr John wrote: |
| Put a quick Motte ski report in t'other EK group. General gossip around Val; no restaurants open, nadda. Only bar currently open is Blue Note, which is good for Matt and Emma at least. The Casserole closed last week, for good. The building owners have taken it back and won't do anything with it. Same is happening up the Rue de Park Des SPorts and Rue de Coin in anticipation of the dreadful Coin development which has been mooted for years and, IMHO, will do great damage to Val, turning it (even more) into a rich persons ghetto. The Lodge bar is closing (yet another good seasonaires place going), but the restaurant will probably limp on. |
Always is a ghost time at this time of the year be under no illusion at all thats for sure - REAL ghost town! The Coin development started a few years back but as usual with these things is bouncing about in legal action. For the good or bad of val - perhaps - can't answer that. However worth remembering that some of the decisions now were taken a few years back by what one would consider a right of centre of Mairie - that Mairie is now being controlled (as of April 2020) by a left of centre outfit so within their powers they are trying to improve the situation in the town and already on the ground lots more 'socialist' decisions are being taken! IMO.
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| ma94jcg wrote: |
Thanks both. I am well versed in the rules for entry and return. What I really want to know is how to get some peace of mind around getting access to the Pass Sanitaire for the teenagers whilst we are there.
I have contacted a pharmacy in Bourgeois St Maurice who said they won’t open up their appointments until the end of November. I’m also waiting for a response from the Solaise pharmacy in resort. I would (perhaps unreasonably!) hope that the resort would recognise this potential problem and have plenty of capacity to test British teens during the season |
As I say I would bet a pound to a penny that when it comes down to it the resort will make sure this 'worry' is taken care of but for the moment until anything is known for certain there is nothing that can be booked etc. You along with a LOT of people will be in a similar position!
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@Dr John, La Casserole closing? Classic bit of thread drift here. At the back end of the last complete Season we had, I picked up two ski tourers who asked for a lift back to Val from the lay-by near the Lake statue. They insisted that I had a beer with them as a thank you. I was directed down a side street which lead to the old Ducs du Savoie hotel where they opened a private parking area for me. (I had stayed at the "Ducs" many years ago with my son so I recognized it). We then walked back across the main road and up to the Casserole. They got the beers in and we had a bit of banter about Brits in Val'd.
It was mid afternoon and I think the place was actually closed. I was possibly having a drink with at least one of the owners. They were uncle & nephew. The older guy was a proper character and it turned out that he ran the parapenting operation at the top of Solaise. The nephew was a more polished character, much quieter. He and his family owned and ran one of the larger hotels on Avenue Olympique. They also owned the Ducs du Savoie (hence the parking access). The old guy said with a wink "their main hotel is very upmarket, but they don't give a f*** about the Ducs. They just rent it to the Brits and leave them to it."
I had to remind them that I was driving back to Tignes and get them to open up the parking compound. As a parting shot the older guy offered me a free "flight" if I went to find him atop Solaise.
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| GeorgeVII wrote: |
@Dr John, La Casserole closing? Classic bit of thread drift here. At the back end of the last complete Season we had, I picked up two ski tourers who asked for a lift back to Val from the lay-by near the Lake statue. They insisted that I had a beer with them as a thank you. I was directed down a side street which lead to the old Ducs du Savoie hotel where they opened a private parking area for me. (I had stayed at the "Ducs" many years ago with my son so I recognized it). We then walked back across the main road and up to the Casserole. They got the beers in and we had a bit of banter about Brits in Val'd.
It was mid afternoon and I think the place was actually closed. I was possibly having a drink with at least one of the owners. They were uncle & nephew. The older guy was a proper character and it turned out that he ran the parapenting operation at the top of Solaise. The nephew was a more polished character, much quieter. He and his family owned and ran one of the larger hotels on Avenue Olympique. They also owned the Ducs du Savoie (hence the parking access). The old guy said with a wink "their main hotel is very upmarket, but they don't give a f*** about the Ducs. They just rent it to the Brits and leave them to it."
I had to remind them that I was driving back to Tignes and get them to open up the parking compound. As a parting shot the older guy offered me a free "flight" if I went to find him atop Solaise. |
Interesting read..... there are certainly lots of families (well not many actually but a handful of very powerful ones at that) that are landowner etc within Val and they own this bit of land and that. You have to be about 20th generation to be considered a local and those ' locals' are the dozen or so that own most of the land and hotels about town etc. One brother will own this and the other that - its the history of the place and the same across France its just that Val is geographically quite small that its so close nit. For good or bad!
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hey @Steve Angus, first off a belated Happy Birthday - saw the ticker under your name yesterday! I'm considering staying out after the PSB to catch the mens WC race on the saturday - I have been keeping an eye on the ValD website for tickets but it seems that tickets have been suspended for the fanzone by the organiser - would you happen to know if they will be allowing fans this year / or what the deal is with getting tickets? That being said is it worth being in the fanzone / or is there enough atmosphere to soak up the races standing on the side of the piste? - plan would be to try and catch the start of run1 and then majority of the 2nd run.
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@ma94jcg, As it’s currently a very quiet time the Val d’Isere pharmacy shares opening hours with the pharmacy in Tignes. After the Toussaint holiday next Monday you are more likely to get a answer.
Last season (that didn’t happen ) Val d’Isere had put in place 3 testing places, the medical centre/doctors would test people with symptoms. People that worked in town were encouraged to test every week so along with the hoped for holidaymakers, they set up an extra testing facility (large wooden hut) near the ice rink plus the pharmacy.
When we were out in August the pharmacy couldn’t do any tests for a week due to a technical fault, this didn’t affect us as we had test kits with us for our return to the UK and others drove to Tignes or Bourg. It might be more problematic in winter.
I know we all love to plan on Snowheads but I think after the decision on whether the Pass Sanitaire is required for ski lifts, which is expected soon, options will become clearer.
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Thanks @muppet and @Steve Angus. Hopefully we’ll know more soon!
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@Dr John, Where in town is now doing a workers set lunch in off season ? They would easily do 100 covers some lunchtimes.
Casserole was always our go to place late October/Early November 
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@muppet, I think the Lodge is doing a workers menu du jour during the week. We always like the lodge in off-season and summer, but tend to avoid when the resort is busy as the service tends to creak a bit.
We asked around about the covid check plans and the answer is no-one has a clue. If pass sanitaire isn't required to buy a lift pass (and it wasn't for a season pass a week ago), then checking at each lift would be a nightmare. One solution in my mind would be to have your lift pass flagged as having been verified once for pass sanitaire, thereafter you're free to come and go as you please. Drawback is it would require software development and roll-out, and maybe a two queue system at the lifts.
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Quick update on covid testing. The Solaise pharmacy responded to my email - they asked to get in touch after the 22nd November when they will have planned their testing approach for the season
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| hey @Steve Angus, first off a belated Happy Birthday - saw the ticker under your name yesterday! I'm considering staying out after the PSB to catch the mens WC race on the saturday - I have been keeping an eye on the ValD website for tickets but it seems that tickets have been suspended for the fanzone by the organiser - would you happen to know if they will be allowing fans this year / or what the deal is with getting tickets? That being said is it worth being in the fanzone / or is there enough atmosphere to soak up the races standing on the side of the piste? - plan would be to try and catch the start of run1 and then majority of the 2nd run. |
Thanks!
Interesting as this year they seem to be going MORE towards the 'ticket or nothing' system - before it was only if you really wanted to have the plum spots / views that you needed a ticket - so the fact that tickets have been suspended at the moment is somewhat intriguing! TBH I dont think there is that much to be gained from being in the thick of the action personally - in terms of good view (you have to time it right of course!) I always think that being on the lifts over the pistes at the time of racing is the best bet! Yes you might get a good atmosphere in the action but its not like the Kitzbuhel DH race with 100,000 people watching - its never more than a few thousand people max.... and to be honest unless a French man is winning there is sometimes a feeling of sour grapes about in my experience! Anyway Im sure that something will pop up soon for tickets though so keep checking!
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| muppet wrote: |
@ma94jcg, As it’s currently a very quiet time the Val d’Isere pharmacy shares opening hours with the pharmacy in Tignes. After the Toussaint holiday next Monday you are more likely to get a answer.
Last season (that didn’t happen ) Val d’Isere had put in place 3 testing places, the medical centre/doctors would test people with symptoms. People that worked in town were encouraged to test every week so along with the hoped for holidaymakers, they set up an extra testing facility (large wooden hut) near the ice rink plus the pharmacy.
When we were out in August the pharmacy couldn’t do any tests for a week due to a technical fault, this didn’t affect us as we had test kits with us for our return to the UK and others drove to Tignes or Bourg. It might be more problematic in winter.
I know we all love to plan on Snowheads but I think after the decision on whether the Pass Sanitaire is required for ski lifts, which is expected soon, options will become clearer. |
Good points there - especially the oncoming decisions on Pass Sanitaire as then we will know more that is for sure!
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Dr John and ma94jcg - indeed - no one really knows yet - still all to be decided. Not ideal for international travellers wanting to plan in more details now but it is what it is - I am sure that within the next couple of weeks things will become clear.
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barracuda - further to what you were asking about above, Radio Val this morning released the info on their website - look for the 'info' part of their website for todays update and it is written at the bottom - you can use the real link there as well as translate what is written. Anyway looks like tickets can now be purchased if you are keen.
"Les billets pour assister aux épreuves hommes du Critérium de la Première Neige du 11 et 12 décembre prochain sont en vente. Comme nous vous l'annoncions il y a quelques semaines, l'accès au site au pied de la Face de Bellevarde sera payant cette année. Pour assister aux épreuves depuis la fan zone, espace gratuit les années précédentes, il faudra désormais payer sa place 10€ par jour. L'accès aux tribunes est fixé à 25€ et 60€ pour la terrasse VIP. L'accès restera cependant gratuit pour les épreuves dames a la Daille la semaine suivante. Pour réserver votre place c'est ici"
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@Steve Angus, perfect thanks 
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COVID info update
For those who have been eagerly asking what the resort is planning in terms of needing tests / certificates etc especially for younger members of the families... well anyway today there has been some shift. This was written on the Radio Val website this am:
"Nous pensions en être sortis, mais pas tout à fait. Les communes de Val d'Isère, Tignes et Sainte-Foy sont en train de s'organiser avec les professionnels de santé du territoire afin de pouvoir gérer le traitement des demandes de tests PCR et antigéniques cet hiver. Les règles imposées aux voyageurs de nombreux pays et compagnies aériennes incitent en effet à mettre en place des centres pour des tests dits « de confort » pour les personnes asymptomatiques. Les centres médicaux, le cabinet du centre et Médival continueront de proposer des tests, uniquement pour les personnes présentant des symptômes. Un site internet dédié ou un numéro de téléphone unique seront mis en place prochainement pour réserver facilement son test. S'il reste encore plusieurs questions à régler, le centre de test avalin sera opérationnel pour l'ouverture de la station le 27 novembre prochain. Nous vous proposerons une interview de Caroline Cerri, déléguée COVID sur Val d'Isère et Jérémie Karibian, médecin à Médival d'ici quelques jours pour fournir plus de détails."
Essentially I think what it all means that within reason to make sure it is as user friendly as possible and enticing as possible for people to keep coming / booking etc the resort are putting structure in place to allow the necessary hoops to be jumped through as easily as possible e.g. via testing in resort etc. So all in all I think it is all sounding pretty positive - phew!
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P.S. It has been dumping down virtually all day today!!!! Yay!
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Seemingly, now, after Dec 15th if you are 65 you need to have the booster, or else you must do the tests every 72 hrs.
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Thanks Steve. Do you know if pre-departure tests needed to enter France would count towards the Pass Sanitaire 72 hour window if it was in force for ski lifts? I would hope so because if it were suitable for entry to the country in the first place, they would surely be sufficient for the PS? It would save getting a test (teenage daughters) first thing on arrival on Saturday evening/Sunday morning.
Cheers.
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@Steve Angus,
Hey Steve it feels like forever since I looked at this forum and hope you are doing well.
Had like many lots of personal challenges and losses the last 18 months and was lucky to ski the last week of 2020 before lockdown .
To honour the last 18 months what better way than to be back on day 1 of a proper season
So 27th of November we will arrive in Val .
Alas my good friends @ Neilson won't have Toviere open to paying guests and although I will say hi to my good friends there this season we are staying up in town .
Fear not we also have March 2022 booked back at Tov in La Daille .
So Steve .... I am glued to the thread again
Now where is Honeybunny ...... surely she needs to appear 
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