 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| denfinella wrote: |
| polo wrote: |
| Looks like LG is closed until further notice, the current warmth probably prevents them even attempting to scrape up snow onto a few pistes, with no overnight freeze until next weekend. |
Going by the opening statuses and webcams I don't think they're quite at that stage yet, though it does look pretty bad and that's at 10am when pistes always look their best. Still a few runs open.
However it's clear that many of the open pistes in Les Gets have some very dodgy looking areas and it won't take much melting for them to close too.
Morzine looks worse with essentially three runs open (Piste B, Bellemouille, Lievre). Pleney is also now cut off from the rest of the ski area with no pistes open to get out of that sector.
Three very warm days to get through and then it may be cool enough to run snow cannons more extensively overnight.
By the way - did anyone hear back about whether PdS lift passes might be refundable? |
Heard back from the lift company last night. No refunds for passes bought in the Black Friday sale (which is when we got ours). I was told in no uncertain terms that we can still ski / board in Avoriaz … which is a fair point I suppose (but then the product on offer is not the one advertised or purchased). I’m not going to argue though. We are only in LG for a long weekend and by the looks of it we might need to pack our snorkels too.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Nothing good on the 12z update so far as the high stays over france thru to the 10th.....that's how the Op's work though, will chop and change a lot at this range, need to keep an eye on mean / ensembles later to see if there has been a big shift east
Sorrry @Dashed, don't know any ski service specialists apart from the standard ski shops.....surely someone does....
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We had low expectations for today in LG but not so bad, considering. If anything it reminded me of the last downhill of the last day in LGM (Argentière) after the party. Just a bit better as we never had to get off skis to pass the mud patches (and my son just cruises fast so that he can jump over and save his downhill skis).
However looks like it's the end for now, with talks of not even opening La Rosta and Ranfoilly tomorrow. In fact they already closed the Pierrieres run mid afternoon (we still went, the car was down there).
If you are in LG next week there are other activities though: just bike in the Chery side, or head to Avo (hopefully less queues with the end of French hols - Geneva and Vaud still have another week...), start skinning up, or drive to the Col de Joux Plane for XC...
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@franga, thanks for confirming re. lift passes and agree with all the points you make!
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Hey @polo - can we just have the control from the 12z update please?
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Coq&Bull pick up at the Local every day and are top notch. Otherwise, Gravier ski - always a good job.
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Guessing that was for me regarding ski servicing @Nadenoodlee - many thanks
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HNY all. Am I right that GFS has returned to a more unsettled (and snowier) position at 0z run? Certainly some of the automated forecasts seem to have ramped up snow amounts a bit next week.
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HNY fellow PdS fans! In news away from the weather, the Timpson family (yes … keys, shoe soles etc) have bought Le Tremplin. Plans in place to redevelop the hotel and bar by the 24 / 25 season. Rooftop bar will be one of the highlights. They have done a great job with 2 pubs / restaurants on Anglesey in North Wales and I can’t see why this will be any different.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Yes, saw that @franga. I have a lot of time for James T and the way he runs his business so hoping to run into him at some point!
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You know it makes sense.
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Skiing yesterday was very unusual, the slush at 1300m had nearly the same consistency as the slush at the very top of avoriaz (2200m!)
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Happy New Year all 
| andy from embsay wrote: |
| Am I right that GFS has returned to a more unsettled (and snowier) position at 0z run? |
The last few GFS runs have all been variations on a similar theme. They have all been pretty unsettled. The 00Z run looks unsettled from 9-12th January then goes cold but drier. It's still in the unreliable timeframe though.
For the automated forecasts, if they use GFS they usually use the operational run (green line) specifically, rather than the average of all the lines. The 00Z op. run has a moderate fall of snow, and is certainly better than the 18Z and 12Z op. runs from yesterday, which were mainly warm and dry.
But at this timescale it's better to look at overall trends rather than particular runs or ensemble members.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Hopefully it’s going to snow coming out on Friday for two weeks. Everything crossed for cold and snowy weather so we all can ski
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@denfinella, yes, it was the op run i was referring to as that seem to feed snow-forecast app that quite a few people seem to rely on - so there was much gnashing of teeth when that went from 25cm a day for a week to absolutely nothing in 12hrs! But even the op run seems to be bumpy again now - and ECM and GEM seem to concur.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@purpleskier, the one thing I think we can be pretty sure of is in the short term it’s going to be colder than it has been for the last day or two! 13° yesterday at 1700m.
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Why do we do this to ourselves!!
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@andy from embsay, hehe yes, the op run did go from amazing to rubbish on consecutive runs at some point if I recall correctly 
Given the agreement between models I think we can be reasonably confident that there will be more snow on the pistes in a fortnight's time than there is now - we just don't know how much more.
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| purpleskier wrote: |
| Hopefully it’s going to snow coming out on Friday for two weeks. Everything crossed for cold and snowy weather so we all can ski |
Hi. Hope you and the family are all well and enjoy Les Gets
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Thanks Charlie  hope your well too,
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With the temperatures set to drop in the coming days and into the weekend, can we expect the snow cannons to do the business and get a few runs open in LG and Morzine? The situation looks dire as of this morning. All of LG closed according to the live piste map? Cheers
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@dean87,
I doubt they’ll run until it snows again. Much more efficient to make snow onto an existing base.
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@dean87, @zzz, and really not that cold. Can’t recall optimum range for snowmaking but it looks like the upper end (not ideal, I don’t *think*)
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| under a new name wrote: |
| @dean87, @zzz, and really not that cold. Can’t recall optimum range for snowmaking but it looks like the upper end (not ideal, I don’t *think*) |
@zzz Thanks for the reply. Flight arrives Friday and was looking forward to a ski on 7, 8, 9 Jan but might not be possible at this rate! Hopefully something works up in Avoriaz. Cheers
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@dean87, you’ll be fine. There’s skiing in Avoriaz.
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@dean87, the cooler temps will improve things up in Avoriaz massively (where they probably will run cannons as well). Avoriaz and Plaine Dranse will be fine. We arrive Thursday and hopefully looking forward to a wee bit of fresh sunday/monday.
Bergfex is predicting a bit this week as well now.
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You know it makes sense.
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That’s brilliant thanks all. Given me a bit of hope and I’ll know to head up to Avoriaz. Cheers
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Photo from a mate this morning with the caption “RIP Proclou”. Super M not the best way up and down the hill!
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Poster: A snowHead
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@andy from embsay, oh thats a bit grim. We were supposed to be there right now but postponed - god it must be so stressful for the businesses, they could do with one normal winter!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| andy from embsay wrote: |
| Photo from a mate this morning with the caption “RIP Proclou”. Super M not the best way up and down the hill! |
It looks like it was in the August heatwave with some old snow sprinkled onto it
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Keep the faith…
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| andy from embsay wrote: |
| Keep the faith… |
I've given up trying to understand these graphics you keep posting. When's it going to snow, and how much?
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| Chaletbeauroc wrote: |
| andy from embsay wrote: |
| Keep the faith… |
I've given up trying to understand these graphics you keep posting. When's it going to snow, and how much? |
I think that chart shows a fair chance of colder (but not to low levels) temps and precipitation from Sunday/Monday.
So I guess “in a few days, a bit”!
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| andy from embsay wrote: |
| Photo from a mate this morning with the caption “RIP Proclou”. Super M not the best way up and down the hill! |
Yikes, that’s the Proclou chair is it? From 1634m up to 1873m according to online sources.
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@Chaletbeauroc, no one can say for sure re. next week. It's knife edge stuff regarding temps with a lot of uncertainty....apart from precipitation, which looks substantial.
Normally when the Op's (main model output) vary so much swinging from -3c to +3c we can fall back on looking at the mean pressure anomaly charts, but even these, averaging out 50 plus model iterations, there is unprecedented volatility, with the averages themselves moving about at relatively short timeframes (6-8 days). One day the ECM mean looks good, the next it's gone and GFS looks good etc.
No consistency whatsover as to how this plays out. What we do know is the models have once again underestimated the extent of high pressure over europe and further north towards scandi. This means it's a slower moving pattern, and likely milder than some previous output was showing (less of an atlantic ridge visible now), with high pressure never far away to the south and east.
So best guess is there will be a dump to low levels on the 9th, but temps creep back up on the 10-13th as the pattern turns flatter.....still looking good around mid month on the mean charts as the low clears east it will bring colder air down the western flank (opposite to a high).
Above 1800m should see enough snow to guarantee a solid base for the rest of the season, avi risk will be high, but below 1500m it's still a very uncertain picture.....most likely snow - rain - snow, so who knows what the end result will look like.
Right now it looks like the mean temperature stays very close to 0 at 1500m for the next 2 weeks, so that's a lot better than recently. And precipitation is going to be very heavy next week. Best case we have a new base down to 1200m, worst case green fields below 1500m but still going to be very good above 1800m.
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Avoriaz should and could be very good towards the end of next week (with the usual caveats : avi risk, visibility etc).
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They were downloading by chair to Super M fire the last 3 days. We managed to ski down on NYE but we were on 1m wide ribbons for stretches.
Avoriaz today snow wasn't too bad nowhere near as lumpy as NYE and softened up nicely towards lunch.
Lift queues and busy slopes everywhere. Helicopters and stretcher bearers were busy today too.
All the lifties, ticket office staff and restaurant staff are working very hard and being very cheerful and amiable with everyone despite being mobbed by Les Gets and Morzine skiers.
Prodain car park was full by 8:45 this am - we had to drive up to resort.
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@Chaletbeauroc,
After your inciteful comments on the lack of föhn a couple of weeks ago, after which most of the snow disappeared, I assumed you were an expert on the weather 
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