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@sparklingspringwater, people have been spreading rumours since the last one
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Certain pessimistic bar owners in Saalbach have been... but perhaps they’re wrong 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@ousekjarr, thanks - I looked up Stansted and it's <3 hour test drive through at the long stay car park for £80. This I think is safer and quicker than dropping a £50 test off and hoping it comes back by midnight the next day...
Could do the <3 hour test at LHR and hang around, but getting it earlier would be safer...
..drive 40mins to STN Sat morning, get test, home and pack, check result, drive to LHR, eve check in, stay at Sofitel, 7:15 flight... with possibly a PCR test a few days earlier as OH is a vet so client facing all day long (though all masked up, one client only in consult room - she hasn't caught it at work in two years, so maybe masks do work...)
Hopefully Austria relax to the booster only requirement, but given how Omicron reinfects triple jabbed AND recovered (see Keir Starmer) the 48 hour requirement may still stand
And it's supposed to be a holiday! How times change
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@buchanan101, I used the <3h PCR drive through on my way to LHR and it worked fine. They are usually a bit slow, so if you need it for a same day flight (not your good self) then I would give it an extra 30 mins for queuing.
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Im super confused, flying to Salzburg in 2 weeks to go to mayrhofen, 3 of us triple jabbed but my youngest daughter only double so she is unable to travel now unless she manages to catch covid in the next few days. Can anybody cofirm what tests we currently need to book?, we have booked the free gargle PCR test for return available in mayrhofen but what else iscurrently required for travel both ways?
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| Klamm Franzer wrote: |
| @buchanan101, I used the <3h PCR drive through on my way to LHR and it worked fine. They are usually a bit slow, so if you need it for a same day flight (not your good self) then I would give it an extra 30 mins for queuing. |
The Stansted one? Yes was thinking could do it on the way, but then have to hang about somewhere for a couple of hours. It's a possible, but rather get it done early on the Saturday; Caxton (near Cambridge) to Stansted is no big deal
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| ollski2.0 wrote: |
| Im super confused, flying to Salzburg in 2 weeks to go to mayrhofen, 3 of us triple jabbed but my youngest daughter only double so she is unable to travel now unless she manages to catch covid in the next few days. Can anybody cofirm what tests we currently need to book?, we have booked the free gargle PCR test for return available in mayrhofen but what else iscurrently required for travel both ways? |
Not sure about your daughter, but you all (currently) need a PCR test taken within 48 hours of landing time. Taken, not the result issued. Catching Covid wouldn't help your daughter as PCR tests can show positive for a while after recovery. Someone else hopefully can answer for your daughter; is she a child or 18+
For under 15... this is from UK gov website
"Children
Children up to the age of 12 do not have to provide a test result if travelling under supervision of an adult. If the accompanying adult has to self-isolate, the child must self-isolate too. The child can then leave self-isolation at the same time as the adult. If travelling unattended, the same requirements apply as for adults.
Children aged 12-15 who are not yet fully-vaccinated can take advantage of a “Holiday Ninja Pass” to access venues at ski-resorts. Find out how to apply online."
Here's the Ninja link
https://info.bmlrt.gv.at/dam/jcr:81719c3a-d411-4ced-bcd6-58ac69f84c90/Holiday_Ninja_Pass_engl_FINAL.pdf
You don't now need any pre-flight test on return, just a LFT taken within 2 days of landing, AFAIK
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Shes 20 but doesnt require and isnt entitled to a booster as she only had second jab 9 weeks ago so doesnt need boosting yet. I just cant make head nor tail of preflight, day 2, day 8, fit to fly, locator forms, tests in resort etc
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| ollski2.0 wrote: |
| Im super confused, flying to Salzburg in 2 weeks to go to mayrhofen, 3 of us triple jabbed but my youngest daughter only double so she is unable to travel now unless she manages to catch covid in the next few days. Can anybody cofirm what tests we currently need to book?, we have booked the free gargle PCR test for return available in mayrhofen but what else iscurrently required for travel both ways? |
If shes 16 or 17, then yes, she'll need to catch COVID in the next few days. You'll then need to present proof of recovery, which I believe (I don't know for certain, but have been told this) will appear in the NHS app after the 10 day isolation period.
UK 16 / 17 year olds are in limbo, as they can only get double jabbed and not boosted, whereas the Austrian rules require them to have all 3 OR double jabbed + proof of recovery from COVID.
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| ollski2.0 wrote: |
| Im super confused, flying to Salzburg in 2 weeks to go to mayrhofen, 3 of us triple jabbed but my youngest daughter only double so she is unable to travel now unless she manages to catch covid in the next few days. Can anybody cofirm what tests we currently need to book?, we have booked the free gargle PCR test for return available in mayrhofen but what else iscurrently required for travel both ways? |
As of Friday you don't need any pre return tests to the UK just an LFT within 48 hrs after your return.
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| ollski2.0 wrote: |
| Shes 20 but doesnt require and isnt entitled to a booster as she only had second jab 9 weeks ago so doesnt need boosting yet. I just caAh - nt make head nor tail of preflight, day 2, day 8, fit to fly, locator forms, tests in resort etc |
Ah - that's unlucky. I think it's 12 weeks until you can get your booster, but maybe if your pushy, you can do it early? (no idea really)
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| ollski2.0 wrote: |
| Im super confused, flying to Salzburg in 2 weeks to go to mayrhofen, 3 of us triple jabbed but my youngest daughter only double so she is unable to travel now unless she manages to catch covid in the next few days. Can anybody cofirm what tests we currently need to book?, we have booked the free gargle PCR test for return available in mayrhofen but what else iscurrently required for travel both ways? |
If shes 16 or 17, then yes, she'll need to catch COVID in the next few days. You'll then need to present proof of recovery, which I believe (I don't know for certain, but have been told this) will appear in the NHS app after the 10 day isolation period.
UK 16 / 17 year olds are in limbo, as they can only get double jabbed and not boosted, whereas the Austrian rules require them to have all 3 OR double jabbed + proof of recovery from COVID. |
Born before 1st September 15 year olds also in limbo unless recovered within 180 days and can prove this.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| ollski2.0 wrote: |
| Im super confused, flying to Salzburg in 2 weeks to go to mayrhofen, 3 of us triple jabbed but my youngest daughter only double so she is unable to travel now unless she manages to catch covid in the next few days. Can anybody cofirm what tests we currently need to book?, we have booked the free gargle PCR test for return available in mayrhofen but what else iscurrently required for travel both ways? |
As of Friday you don't need any pre return tests to the UK just an LFT within 48 hrs after your return. |
Great so the only one we dont need is the free Austrian one?
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| ollski2.0 wrote: |
| Adam9 wrote: |
| ollski2.0 wrote: |
| Im super confused, flying to Salzburg in 2 weeks to go to mayrhofen, 3 of us triple jabbed but my youngest daughter only double so she is unable to travel now unless she manages to catch covid in the next few days. Can anybody cofirm what tests we currently need to book?, we have booked the free gargle PCR test for return available in mayrhofen but what else iscurrently required for travel both ways? |
As of Friday you don't need any pre return tests to the UK just an LFT within 48 hrs after your return. |
Great so the only one we dont need is the free Austrian one? |
Yes but on the plus side there is now a much lower chance of you getting stuck out there..
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You know it makes sense.
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| Adam9 wrote: |
| ollski2.0 wrote: |
| Im super confused, flying to Salzburg in 2 weeks to go to mayrhofen, 3 of us triple jabbed but my youngest daughter only double so she is unable to travel now unless she manages to catch covid in the next few days. Can anybody cofirm what tests we currently need to book?, we have booked the free gargle PCR test for return available in mayrhofen but what else iscurrently required for travel both ways? |
As of Friday you don't need any pre return tests to the UK just an LFT within 48 hrs after your return. |
Great so the only one we dont need is the free Austrian one? |
Nor any PCR on return, just LFTs
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Born before 1st September 15 year olds also in limbo unless recovered within 180 days and can prove this. |
I'm in the same situation with my son. In theory, I guess you could get around this by registering a positive LFT for them, which would mean you would get the recovery proof after 10 days "isolation" (I'm not advocating this, so don't flame me)
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Poster: A snowHead
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| ollski2.0 wrote: |
| Shes 20 but doesnt require and isnt entitled to a booster as she only had second jab 9 weeks ago so doesnt need boosting yet. I just caAh - nt make head nor tail of preflight, day 2, day 8, fit to fly, locator forms, tests in resort etc |
Ah - that's unlucky. I think it's 12 weeks until you can get your booster, but maybe if your pushy, you can do it early? (no idea really) |
They definitely wont, she doesnt need boosting as considered fully vaccinated.....except in the completely bizzarely made up travel rules
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| crudeFool wrote: |
| james75 wrote: |
Born before 1st September 15 year olds also in limbo unless recovered within 180 days and can prove this. |
I'm in the same situation with my son. In theory, I guess you could get around this by registering a positive LFT for them, which would mean you would get the recovery proof after 10 days "isolation" (I'm not advocating this, so don't flame me) |
I have heard of quite a few people now who have sent off PCRs from someone positive under their own name to skirt this
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@ollski2.0, in which case, either she gets a 3rd shot or stays at home unless she is happy to quarantine in Austria. The rules for adults are clear
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According to the current entry regulations, entry from a country or area mentioned there - including the United Kingdom - or entry of people who have been in any of these countries within the last 10 days, is banned from 25 December 2021.
Exceptions:
A) The entry ban and the obligation to self-isolate do not apply if both of the following are provided:
proof of a “booster vaccination” (third vaccination or second vaccination in case you have been jabbed with Johnson & Johnson or in case you have recovered and were vaccinated twice thereafter, third vaccination done at least 120 days after the second one; Johnson & Johnson: 14 days after the first one ) AND
a negative PCR test taken less than 48h before the time of entry to Austria. |
from the UK Austrian embassy website https://www.bmeia.gv.at/en/austrian-embassy-london/travelling-to-austria/coronavirus-covid-19-and-travel-abroad/
As has been pointed out, if she catches it now she is very unlikely to get a negative PCR test in 14 days time, so the "recovery" option is not possible. Going by the book you need 120 days between 2nd & 3rd shot but it appears no one is checking that.
There is a chance the regulations will change before you travel otherwise she probably wont be having a ski holiday this month.
Austria is on the point of introducing compulsory vaccination, unlikely that whatever changes are brought in tourists will be exempted from the Austrian definition of fully vaccinated.
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I have spent hours and hours looking at various websites regarding the entry requirements for the 15 - 18 ages and they are pretty clear that they need the same as adults. As they can't have a booster, the only way around seems to be having recovered within 180 days. Getting proof of this for uk 15 year olds proving to be very difficult. I believe that over 16s can have proof of recovery with an nhs covid pass but under 16s can't get this (the covid pass for 12-15 yrs only shows vaccinated). So even if recovered there is a small group (those born before Sept 2006 but are not yet 16) who are in no man's land.
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In addition to my previous post, I understand that there are some institutions who can provide a certificate of recovery (£100-150) it is unclear as to whether this applies to children.
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@ollski2.0, you could get your daughter to stop by a vaccination centre or a GP's practice near the end of the working day maybe? I've heard - second hand - many stories of late-day walk-ins being given jabs that they were not officially eligible for? The reason I have been told is that it is better to use vaccines close to their expiry instead of throwing them away. Could be worth a try.
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My wife is a nurse and has been doing the odd shift at vaccination centres due to short staffing levels. Yesterday not 1 person arrived in the final 11 appointments. Typically walk-ins are accepted but it's down to availability and eligibility. No doubt someone on here will know much better 
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@ollski2.0, how are you travelling? If you are flying into to Munich, potentially, the issues are much easier. Germany still defines fully vaccinated as two shots so she would comply with no issues (though be aware that will almost certainly change to 3 at some point). There is very unlikely to be any checks going into Austria (though a small chance exists). She will need to prove her status to get into restaurants, get a ski pass etc. I believe she can do that with a combination of 2 jabs & a test but might be wrong and someone else can confirm.
Clearly doing this would be "bending the rules", some will be happy doing so others not.
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| She will need to prove her status to get into restaurants, get a ski pass etc. I believe she can do that with a combination of 2 jabs & a test but might be wrong and someone else can confirm. |
2 jabs is fine for 2G, as long as the last one is within whatever the validity limit is these days (it will be, in this case, if they're too soon for a booster), no test required except in specific circumstances (large events, I believe).
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This booster thingy continues to create massive confusion. My reading of the Austrian "Exceptions" rule is different and is consistent with what my contacts at Salzburg Airport have been telling me. The rule states:
"Exceptions:
A) The entry ban and the obligation to self-isolate do not apply if both of the following are provided:
proof of a “booster vaccination” (third vaccination or second vaccination in case you have been jabbed with Johnson & Johnson or in case you have recovered and were vaccinated twice thereafter, third vaccination done at least 120 days after the second one; Johnson & Johnson: 14 days after the first one ) AND
a negative PCR test taken less than 48h before the time of entry to Austria."
This line is the critical one. "third vaccination done at least 120 days after the second one". So if you had your second dose less than 120 Days ago, you are compliant with the exemption rule as adults CANNOT get a third dose. That is how the Military Folks at Salzburg are dealing with it. I checked. Just don't fly to Innsbruck.
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@RedandWhiteFlachau, Austrian chaos continues 
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On the UK Gov website it now seems to suggest that proof of recovery is not sufficient as a standalone. I thought it was before but it now states that it's only valid with double vaccinations. I was hoping my 11 year old (12 the day before we travel) would be able to use that but seems he will have to go through the Ninja process and risk of isolation. Anybody know different?
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You know it makes sense.
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Hello,
I am flying to Salzburg on Saturday 15th January. I have QR codes for my 2 vaccination jabs but I only have the green card for my booster. Will this card be accepted as proof.
Cheers.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@bitsand, where from, and what does your health system provide as a means of proof? If from the UK, only the official NHS QR code is accepted, and one code should have all of your data in it - if the booster shows up on the app, it is present in the QR code. If not, you have 9 days to get that fixed.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@bitsand, generally the paper vaccination books and cards are accepted most places in AT (I've used them in the past at the border too).
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@bitsand, assuming you are from Ireland, the answer is yes. Irritating they havent fixed the issue with boosters showing on the proper certificate!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Could I ask another question. One other member of our party is isolating currently after a positive PCR test. Does anyone know how to go about getting a proof of recovery certificate. He is worried that his 48 hour PCR test might return positive result.
Cheers.
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Thanks everyone for the replies. I really appreciate them.
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Sorry I should have said that we are flying from Belfast and have the COVIDCert NI App.
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| Scarlet wrote: |
| @ptex, how tight is really tight in Vienna? I’m assuming the connection comes up as a viable route on their website, rather than something you’ve picked yourself? Vienna isn’t huge, so it doesn’t take long to get through. When my mum had a tight connection and her initial flight was delayed, they picked her up in a car off the first plane and took her directly round to the next one. Her bag made it too. |
@Scarlet, thanks; we've only transited in Vienna a couple of times and both times the London flight was late on arrival; the layover is 35 mins (from the Austian site) - pretty tight I think. The remainder of flights are giving big layovers, sadly.
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No realistic replacement for our January Innsbruck cancelled EasyJet flights, so it's BA Zurch then train or hire car to Austria, BA Munich then train or hire car or Austrian via Vienna. I've done the Zurich route via car and train a number of times, Munich and car a number of times but does anyone here have a very recent experience of any of these routes under the current circumstances?
Marginally edging towards Munich or Zurich as the Vienna connections are really tight. |
Have you tried https://www.tui.co.uk/flight/ or skyscanner.net as Tui and jet2 sometimes load their flights on there, obviously weekend flights only. |
Hadn't tried TUI - I'll have a look, though we're going weekday to weekday; might have been the reason we had our EJ flight cancelled as the W/E flights haven't changed, by the looks of it.
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No realistic replacement for our January Innsbruck cancelled EasyJet flights, so it's BA Zurch then train or hire car to Austria, BA Munich then train or hire car or Austrian via Vienna. I've done the Zurich route via car and train a number of times, Munich and car a number of times but does anyone here have a very recent experience of any of these routes under the current circumstances?
Marginally edging towards Munich or Zurich as the Vienna connections are really tight. |
Where is your final destination?
In general I would go for Munich over Zurich, due to substantially lower car rental prices. Also, it would seem that currently entry requirements into Germany might be easier than those going into Switzerland.
If you are heading to a resort west of Innsbruck (Arlberg, Ischgl, etc), Stuttgart or Memmingen could also be options (and renting a car). |
@ski_free, Arlberg & Innsbruck; it looks like Munich is the best option for choice of flights and you're so right about the car hire - just checked and Munich is 80% less than the same group, same company than our previous quote at Innsbruck!
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Ahead of this afternoons press conference the national press agencies are reporting a strong support for the relaxation of isolation rules for vaccinated persons, this will ease the staffing issues in the coming weeks to ensure critical infrastructure stays open and operational (food / fuel / transport).
There is a strong direction towards NO lockdown at this time being reported.
For those of you (myself included) looking for some relaxation of entry requirements it doesn't look like it will feature in todays announcement, i could easily be wrong, but today feels very much like a domestic issue kind of day.
The current entry rules have an expiry / review date of the 31st Jan on the legislation so i suspect they will leave them as they are until then.
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@enduroaid, not so sure about lockdown. Slalom in Flachau has just been cancelled due to extreme incidence in Flachau @ 7600/100K. If it's that high there then I would be surprised if it's much different in the rest of Salzburg & Tirol.
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