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@ptex, how tight is really tight in Vienna? I’m assuming the connection comes up as a viable route on their website, rather than something you’ve picked yourself? Vienna isn’t huge, so it doesn’t take long to get through. When my mum had a tight connection and her initial flight was delayed, they picked her up in a car off the first plane and took her directly round to the next one. Her bag made it too.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@ousekjarr, we fly on a Sunday. OH won’t be able to go for a test anywhere on the Friday but I could get her to do the actusl test Friday morning then register it in the afternoon and drop it off so we get results Saturday. Does the system allow test before registration is really my question or does the registration include some photographic evidence?
Fully understand why you are doing two tests
Hope this all changes soon - holiday not until late Feb but we only have until latish Jan to cancel the hotel.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| ptex wrote: |
No realistic replacement for our January Innsbruck cancelled EasyJet flights, so it's BA Zurch then train or hire car to Austria, BA Munich then train or hire car or Austrian via Vienna. I've done the Zurich route via car and train a number of times, Munich and car a number of times but does anyone here have a very recent experience of any of these routes under the current circumstances?
Marginally edging towards Munich or Zurich as the Vienna connections are really tight. |
Have you tried https://www.tui.co.uk/flight/ or skyscanner.net as Tui and jet2 sometimes load their flights on there, obviously weekend flights only.
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One thing I can't get my head around, I tested postive for covid on 12/12, isolated for 10 days, booster booked for 11/1, double vaccinated already. I'm flying LGW to Innsbruck 17/1
What happens if I test postive on the 48 hour pcr test, not because I'm ill or have covid but because I had it a month ago...
Do the Austrain gov accept my proof of recovery via the Nhs pcr test on the 12/12 or do they deny me entry...?
Not sure where to get an answer on this. Thanks
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Jones82, very tricky. In theory the recovery on NHS app should be ok - hinted at on Gov.Uk. The advice is generally not to PCR test so soon after infection.
Gov.uk says:
Demonstrating your COVID-19 status
Austria will accept the UK’s proof of COVID-19 recovery and vaccination record and proof of COVID-19 vaccination issued in the Crown Dependencies. If you are travelling with a printed PDF proof of vaccination status, it must date from after 1 November 2021 to ensure that the certificate can be scanned successfully. Austrian immigration officials will insist on QR codes, as provided by the UK COVID Pass, as proof of vaccinations and boosters, and have denied entry to those without this evidence. Your NHS appointment card from vaccination centres is not designed to be used as proof of full vaccination.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/austria/entry-requirements
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Depends on where you’re going?
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Sorry this was in reply to the Zurich vs Munich dilemma. Didn’t realise the thread had moved on!
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| ptex wrote: |
No realistic replacement for our January Innsbruck cancelled EasyJet flights, so it's BA Zurch then train or hire car to Austria, BA Munich then train or hire car or Austrian via Vienna. I've done the Zurich route via car and train a number of times, Munich and car a number of times but does anyone here have a very recent experience of any of these routes under the current circumstances?
Marginally edging towards Munich or Zurich as the Vienna connections are really tight. |
Where is your final destination?
In general I would go for Munich over Zurich, due to substantially lower car rental prices. Also, it would seem that currently entry requirements into Germany might be easier than those going into Switzerland.
If you are heading to a resort west of Innsbruck (Arlberg, Ischgl, etc), Stuttgart or Memmingen could also be options (and renting a car).
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@Jones82, read the last line. Still 2 weeks for this to change though.
https://www.oesterreich.gv.at/en/themen/coronavirus_in_oesterreich/pre-travel-clearance.html
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| The obligation to bring a negative result of a molecular test with you or a medical certificate confirming such a test does not apply to persons who have recovered from COVID-19 and can present a medical certificate in accordance with Appendix H or Appendix I. The obligation to self-isolate, however, remains. |
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Well we paid through the nose for our hire car at Munich airport in December. About twice what it usually costs! Think they’re trying to claw back money lost in the pandemic.
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Looks like PCR changed back to 72 hrs..
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@buchanan101, the Randox FAQ has these entries which may be relevant:
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- Will my results report include both the date and time?
Yes, when registering your kit online you can select the option to add the swab time and date to your results report. Your report will also include the test date and time.
- Will my passport information be on my results certificate?
Yes you can choose to add your passport details when registering your kit after you take your swab. This will ensure that your results certificate has your passport details included. |
Their dropbox scheme works on the basis that you take the swab, register it on their site (which sets the swab time and date), and then drop it into their box for collection before 5pm. Therefore in theory your OH could do the swab in the morning, then you do one in the mid afternoon, register both of them at 4pm, and drop them both into the box for collection after 5pm - there's no requirement for any evidence that the swab was taken at that time, but there is a limit applied by Randox of 70 hours after which presumably they won't find any live cells in the sample and will declare it as unsuitable for testing. Again, I don't know their system, so the 70 hour limit might just be an admin limit between registration and testing in case you miss the collection or put it in the wrong place and it has to be redirected. But actually the simpler answer is that there are several hundred drop boxes across the UK, so your OH could test in the afternoon and then drop it at the nearest convenient box - you don't have to be at home to take the swab, as it is self-administered and so can be done just about anywhere. If they are in meetings all day, there will be coffee and toilet breaks and a lunch break, and it should be possible to do the swab during one of those. Whether they could then reach a drop box before 5pm only they could say.
Alternatively, get tested at a walk-in centre on a shorter turnaround time, and accept the additional cost - Collinson offer testing with a 3 hour window at MAN, EMA, LCY, STN and the O2 Arena, and other providers can offer 1-3, 4-6 and 7-12 hour testing on some airport sites, at a higher price. Plus all of the faster test places are open on Saturday - one of my options is a 45 minute journey to Stansted to get tested, but you may be further away.
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| stunshot wrote: |
| Looks like PCR changed back to 72 hrs.. |
Any link to that news?
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| 2planks wrote: |
| stunshot wrote: |
| Looks like PCR changed back to 72 hrs.. |
Any link to that news? |
Nothing on the 3 news agencies I checked or the government website here.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Tiefschneetaucher wrote: |
| Well we paid through the nose for our hire car at Munich airport in December. About twice what it usually costs! Think they’re trying to claw back money lost in the pandemic. |
Was just checking for half term, comparing Munich to Zurich on Sixt
using a Skoda Octavia Estate as example:
MUC: £350
STU: £240
ZUR: £680 (For Focus Turnier, cheapest estate)
On another note, does anyone know if childrens ski schools have started doing lunch again yet?
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Wed 5-01-22 20:07; edited 1 time in total
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@Jones82, to clarify the response by @Chris_n, as you are double vaccinated and have recovered from Covid, plus will have had the booster by then, Austria will permit you to enter.
However, regardless of your vaccination or recovery status, unless you can also provide proof of a negative PCR result, you will be required to quarantine for up to 10 days, with the option of a negative PCR test for release on day 5. If you are still testing positive after 5 weeks, an extra 5 days may not be enough for it to come up clear.
I'm in a similar position, but my positive was on 30/12/21 and I fly on 15/1/22. Day 6 LFT just completed, and still shows a faint positive line.
But as @Chris_n also says, there's still 10 days in which it can change for me. The benefit of a PCR test on entry is waning as Austrian rates go up, and Omicron becomes endemic across Europe. If the UK, NL, DK, NO are removed from the Virus Variant list then the general rules would apply again, and that would mean:
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Proof of full vaccination (2 jabs) OR proof of past infection (the medical document needs to show the date of recovery
AND a negative PCR test (valid for 72 hours) OR proof of a booster jab (booster is valid from the first day) |
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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It is wrong, their travel information PDF also says
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| Everyone needs to book and pay for a PCR test to be taken in the 48 hours before your flight arrival time. |
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Crystal are not a reliable source.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@ousekjarr, thanks for that. There’s a Dropbox in Cambourne for Express Test so I can do as you say. I will look in to Stansted as it’s 45 mins from here also though there are also sites in Cambridge. As results aren’t generally through until midnight (Sat) we won’t be able to do the previous eve check in at LHR (staying at Sofitel) but that’s no big deal, just a nice to have for a 7:15 flight…
Probably do as you are - precautionary test earlier. Got top level Staysure insurance for the year to cover Covid cancellations….
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Irish rules of re-entry changing in the “coming days” and UK’s scrapped from Friday from what I have read (on the return leg I mean). Looks like we may still need a test to get home Saturday to Ireland as the rules may not have changed yet and tomorrow is a holiday in Austria.
We’re in Schladming. Would anyone have an idea how quickly an antigen gets turned around? Reception in our place didn’t have a lot of info. Thanks in advance. We would rather it take a PCR if possible.
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| Scarlet wrote: |
Crystal are not a reliable source. |
You may be correct, seems odd they updated today however, makes little difference apart from cost..
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| Scarlet wrote: |
Crystal are not a reliable source. |
Very much so - for a document updated today, this is atrocious:
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| We’re aware that the Austrian Government have today announced that UK travellers aged 16 and over will need to quarantine upon arrival for 10 days, unless they’ve had a booster jab and have a negative PCR result from a test taken within 72 hours before their flight arrival time. This new requirement will be for customers travelling from 25th December to 31st January. |
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Recent government announcement update
Following the UK Government announcement, we're aware of the changes to post travel testing requirements. All travellers returning to the UK will now need to take a PCR day two test and self-isolate until they receive a negative test result. |
So no mention of the Virus Variant change which reduced the PCR timing to 48 hours, and it suggests a change today when in fact that change was back before Christmas. The second one is also now wrong, but shows a different "last updated" date so they haven't had time to fix that yet.
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| Scarlet wrote: |
Crystal are not a reliable source. |
Very much so - for a document updated today, this is atrocious:
| Crystal wrote: |
We’re aware that the Austrian Government have today announced that UK travellers aged 16 and over will need to quarantine upon arrival for 10 days, unless they’ve had a booster jab and have a negative PCR result from a test taken within 72 hours before their flight arrival time. This new requirement will be for customers travellin  g from 25th December to 31st January. |
Yep the only reason I know it's changed is I've booked a 12 HR turnaround test for travel sat
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Recent government announcement update
Following the UK Government announcement, we're aware of the changes to post travel testing requirements. All travellers returning to the UK will now need to take a PCR day two test and self-isolate until they receive a negative test result. |
So no mention of the Virus Variant change which reduced the PCR timing to 48 hours, and it suggests a change today when in fact that change was back before Christmas. The second one is also now wrong, but shows a different "last updated" date so they haven't had time to fix that yet. |
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Thanks, yep fingers crossed the requirements change in the next couple of weeks
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@buchanan101, the Randox FAQ has these entries which may be relevant:
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- Will my results report include both the date and time?
Yes, when registering your kit online you can select the option to add the swab time and date to your results report. Your report will also include the test date and time.
- Will my passport information be on my results certificate?
Yes you can choose to add your passport details when registering your kit after you take your swab. This will ensure that your results certificate has your passport details included. |
Their dropbox scheme works on the basis that you take the swab, register it on their site (which sets the swab time and date), and then drop it into their box for collection before 5pm. Therefore in theory your OH could do the swab in the morning, then you do one in the mid afternoon, register both of them at 4pm, and drop them both into the box for collection after 5pm - there's no requirement for any evidence that the swab was taken at that time, but there is a limit applied by Randox of 70 hours after which presumably they won't find any live cells in the sample and will declare it as unsuitable for testing. Again, I don't know their system, so the 70 hour limit might just be an admin limit between registration and testing in case you miss the collection or put it in the wrong place and it has to be redirected. But actually the simpler answer is that there are several hundred drop boxes across the UK, so your OH could test in the afternoon and then drop it at the nearest convenient box - you don't have to be at home to take the swab, as it is self-administered and so can be done just about anywhere. If they are in meetings all day, there will be coffee and toilet breaks and a lunch break, and it should be possible to do the swab during one of those. Whether they could then reach a drop box before 5pm only they could say.
Alternatively, get tested at a walk-in centre on a shorter turnaround time, and accept the additional cost - Collinson offer testing with a 3 hour window at MAN, EMA, LCY, STN and the O2 Arena, and other providers can offer 1-3, 4-6 and 7-12 hour testing on some airport sites, at a higher price. Plus all of the faster test places are open on Saturday - one of my options is a 45 minute journey to Stansted to get tested, but you may be further away. |
At the point of registering the Randox test you can actually set the swab date and time yourself. We dropped our tests at the dropbox before registering our tests.
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| Scarlet wrote: |
Crystal are not a reliable source. |
You may be correct, seems odd they updated today however, makes little difference apart from cost.. |
It could make quite a lot of difference to someone denied boarding or entry because their test is too old.
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You know it makes sense.
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Crystal will then have a bit of explaining to do..
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Any substance in rumours of fresh austrian Lockdown likely to be announced tomorrow?
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@kb36, doesn’t appear to be - the details which came out of the Gecko meeting were around reduction of the self-isolation period, with no new recommendations
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I suppose anything is possible, the tourism director for the Kitzbuhel area has asked for either a full 1 week national lockdown or a change to the isolation rules for the fully vaccinated, similar to what has happened in the UK / USA / etc etc he is worried about staffing in the sector.
The austrian version of SAGE is meeting with the politicians tomorrow and there is a press conference scheduled for 2pm CET, the current press whispers is that it will be a relaxation of the isolation rules and NOT a full lockdown....but then again this is politics so i could be talking poo-poo....only way to find out is to watch tomorrow.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@ptex,
We did Munich airport to Garmisch via train in December. The train we took to Garmisch continues on to Innsbruck.
Will be flying in to Munich on Saturday, borrowing father in laws car and driving to the Zillertal.
For the train you can buy a ‘Regio-Ticket Werdenfels Innsbruck’ from the machine on the train platform at Munich Airport. S Bahn to München Hbf then direct train to Innsbruck.
(Don’t forget you need a FFP2 for the train)
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@Redial, RTE news were saying this evening the Government hope to have the new rules in by Friday at the latest. Leaves it tight for ye if they miss that deadline though.
Hope your enjoying Schladming a great resort .
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@ptex, Flew into Zürich from London mid November, no issues at all, though things change every week....
The train from Zürich airport is much easier than from Munich though depends on your destination. There is a direct train to Vienna stopping in St Anton, Innsbruck, Jenbach, Wörgl & Kufstein every two hours from Zürich Hbf (very easy connection from airport train station). Munich is a bit of a faff having to get the S Bahn into the Hbf. Then fast trains every two hours or local trains (mainly to Kufstein but a few to Innsbruck via Garmisch) hourly
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| Redial wrote: |
Irish rules of re-entry changing in the “coming days” and UK’s scrapped from Friday from what I have read (on the return leg I mean). Looks like we may still need a test to get home Saturday to Ireland as the rules may not have changed yet and tomorrow is a holiday in Austria.
We’re in Schladming. Would anyone have an idea how quickly an antigen gets turned around? Reception in our place didn’t have a lot of info. Thanks in advance. We would rather it take a PCR if possible. |
RTE news reporting that rules take effect from 12pm tonight. Buy a few extra beers with the money buddy.
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| kb36 wrote: |
| Any substance in rumours of fresh austrian Lockdown likely to be announced tomorrow? |
Oh dear, I hope not, are these rumours widespread?
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@sparklingspringwater, people have been spreading rumours since the last one. It doesn’t make them any more or less likely. Whatever happens on Friday probably hasn’t even been discussed yet.
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@Scarlet, phew, thanks 
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Thanks All! No test needed to get us home in that case - Happy Days!
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