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However, more recently (within last 24 hours rather than last month) on a different tweet in that thread they still say that a negative PCR test is required; that specific tweet refers to entry, not whether quarantine can be avoided; nowhere on that link in their answer does it say that UK tourists with a recovery certificate instead of negative PCR can avoid quarantine.
Also worth bearing in mind that it's the opinion of the border police that will count, not the opinion of the social media manager of a tourism board (it's certainly not the boss doing the tweeting!), and that both that TVB and the embassy they link to have caveats like: "Disclaimer: The Austrian Embassy in London does not accept any liability for the completeness of this information. No liability can be accepted for any damage that may occur."
I would be delighted if I can travel on a recovery certificate rather than PCR (though tbh I'm not certain I can get a recovery certificate with only a positive UK pre-travel PCR rather than NHS PCR, which came back negative), but unfortunately even as a triple-jabbed Austrian resident I can't see anything convincing that I can enter AND avoid quarantine without a negative PCR.
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@radar, sorry to be the permanently glass half-full person, but entry is only half of the equation and even then the embassy got it wrong and had to correct themselves. The other half is quarantine - and as the rules are written, anyone who cannot produce a negative PCR on arrival is required to quarantine, as are unvaccinated people even if they have a negative PCR. So you're welcome to enter Austria, but will have 5-10 days of quarantine before you are allowed to roam around. I'm really hoping I'm wrong on this because it could affect me personally in 10 days, but I have to work on the assumption that I need that negative test otherwise I'd be flying with my fingers crossed that they don't immediately welcome me back to Austria and then take me to one side to await transport to the designated quarantine hotel for Salzburg.
When I hope to travel on the 15th it will be 17 days after my positive LFT, 16 days after a positive PCR, and I am triple vaccinated. I will therefore tick all of the boxes except the negative PCR, and that's the challenge as the sensitivity of the PCR test may mean that I still test positive due to dead viral material. I know that I will be permitted to enter Austria. Being quarantined for 5 days of a 7 day trip is not my idea of fun, and even then if the test to release is also a PCR, that could still come back positive on day 22. That's why I have 2 Randox fit to fly PCR tests sat on a shelf now - one for a sanity check on the 11th, and one for the preflight check on the 13th.
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...and @clarky999 has essentially posted the same thing while I was typing that up between distractions 
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| ousekjarr wrote: |
| @radarThat's why I have 2 Randox fit to fly PCR tests sat on a shelf now - one for a sanity check on the 11th, and one for the preflight check on the 13th. |
How does that work for "on the shelf" for the preflight test? Surely you have to have the test supervised so it's date stamped (for the 48 hr clock) - can't see how you can do it when you want before you go as it's 48 hours from test time, not from result.
(Maybe you mean "on the shelf " as booked, so apologies if so!)
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This seems pretty clear on the Entry Regulations :: Quarantine OR triple jabbed + -PCR
"..Immediate commencement of a ten-day quarantine OR proof of vaccination via a further dose ("booster") and molecular biology test (e.g. PCR test, not older than 48 hours)..2
https://www.oesterreich.gv.at/en/themen/coronavirus_in_oesterreich/pre-travel-clearance.html
In German, but google translate will sort it !
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If the UK moves to a 'non virus variant area' I assume that the regulations will change accordingly
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I'm not vaccinated at all. I can't go to austria, right?
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@nunex, Have you had Covid? - I believe you can enter if you have a 'recovery' certificate
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Yes I had, but in June 2021. The 180 days ended in 26 December. Had no symptoms of any kind of disease since June 2021.
Could I work it out with the medical certificate form + a negative PCR?
I'm under 40 years old and very healthy, I don't want to take vaccines just to travel as I don't have any risk of serious illness.
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| nunex wrote: |
Yes I had, but in June 2021. The 180 days ended in 26 December. Had no symptoms of any kind of disease since June 2021.
Could I work it out with the medical certificate form + a negative PCR?
I'm under 40 years old and very healthy, I don't want to take vaccines just to travel as I don't have any risk of serious illness. |
That's not really how it works; everyone has some risk of serious illness, or worse - just the amount varies.
Why would anyone give you a medical certificate form; having had it six months ago is irrelevant, just look at Kier Starmer (UK opposition leader as I see you are in Portugal), second time he has had it in 3 months
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@clarky999,
Andy Rose (Snow Camps Europe) said on Facebook this morning that there is going to be an announcement from the Austrian government tomorrow. He speculated that the announcement would be that PCR testing for entry to Austria is going to be suspended.
(Obviously I understand that speculation from a ski instructor is not fact).
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@nunex, from 2. Feb there will be mandatory vaccination in Austria, which also applies to people entering. Before then you could theorectically enter and quarantine for 10 days, but since your recovery certificate has already expired you would not be able to use ski lifts, restaurants, shops.
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| nunex wrote: |
| I'm under 40 years old and very healthy, I don't want to take vaccines just to travel as I don't have any risk of serious illness. |
At risk of derailing this read, what you have said is not only scientifically incorrect but also incredibly selfish and ignorant. It is imperative for everyone who can be vaccinated to get jabbed. You are far more vulnerable to Covid (read up on the impact of long Covid) than to any vaccine-related side effects.
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| Oceanic wrote: |
@clarky999,
Andy Rose (Snow Camps Europe) said on Facebook this morning that there is going to be an announcement from the Austrian government tomorrow. He speculated that the announcement would be that PCR testing for entry to Austria is going to be suspended.
(Obviously I understand that speculation from a ski instructor is not fact). |
Even extending it to 72 hours (as it was) would help. The logistics for 48 hours especially for a very early Sunday morning flight are a little tricky when time cannot be taken off on the Friday for a test...
Scarlet on here (who lives in Austria) thinks restrictions may be tightened, and looking at Worldometers it seems that Omicron is now hitting Austria, this too could be possible for activities inside Austria - but hopefully they still want the tourists (the 48 hour PCR is only for UK, NL, DK, NO isn't it?)
We love to speculate though on here... look at the weather chat!
Last edited by So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much  on Wed 5-01-22 13:16; edited 1 time in total
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You know it makes sense.
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@sparklingspringwater, Wow
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Hi all,
Heading to Austria from Ireland (via Munich) on Saturday week. I received my booster before Christmas but as yet my digital vaccine certificate hasn't been updated (I doubt it will be before I leave) and I only have the card I was given at the vaccination centre as proof of being boosted.
Just wondering if anyone on here knows if presentation of this card along with my double jabbed digital cert will suffice on entering Austria, or indeed Germany at Munich airport.
Apologies if this has been asked already on the thread.
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Can anyone clarify whether the certificate of recovery needs to show recovery within 90 days or 180 days. Conflicting advice on German site - states 180 days, but the letter you can print then says recovery within 90 days?
Any ideas?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| sparklingspringwater wrote: |
| nunex wrote: |
| I'm under 40 years old and very healthy, I don't want to take vaccines just to travel as I don't have any risk of serious illness. |
At risk of derailing this read, what you have said is not only scientifically incorrect but also incredibly selfish and ignorant. It is imperative for everyone who can be vaccinated to get jabbed. You are far more vulnerable to Covid (read up on the impact of long Covid) than to any vaccine-related side effects. |
I agree. I was trying to be more polite (which is not how I react on twitter to this sort of thing...)
There are a number of cases where people who thought they were so fit that they were immune have caught Covid and died
And vaccination is to help everyone (including those who medically can't get vaccinated).
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| facedown wrote: |
| @sparklingspringwater, Wow |
Wow what? Nothing I have said is novel or controversial.
@buchanan101, totally agreed. It is also astonishing that someone is asking other skiers as to how to get around vaccine regulations when we know that if vaccine and booster take-up had been more widespread we wouldn't have these travel restrictions - which have ruined so many ski trips and caused immense difficulty for those employed in the industry - in the first instance.
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| Oceanic wrote: |
@clarky999,
Andy Rose (Snow Camps Europe) said on Facebook this morning that there is going to be an announcement from the Austrian government tomorrow. He speculated that the announcement would be that PCR testing for entry to Austria is going to be suspended.
(Obviously I understand that speculation from a ski instructor is not fact). |
Hmmm, that would be very good if that happens but if hasn’t been mentioned in the media then…
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| sparklingspringwater wrote: |
| facedown wrote: |
| @sparklingspringwater, Wow |
Wow what? Nothing I have said is novel or controversial.
@buchanan101, totally agreed. It is also astonishing that someone is asking other skiers as to how to get around vaccine regulations when we know that if vaccine and booster take-up had been more widespread we wouldn't have these travel restrictions - which have ruined so many ski trips and caused immense difficulty for those employed in the industry - in the first instance. |
If it wasn't that he'd be sitting unvaccinated on a plane for a couple of hours, I'd encourage him to try and go...and be stuck in a quarantine hotel or kicked straight back out.
The dangers of research using Facebook or Twitter...
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| buchanan101 wrote: |
| Scarlet on here (who lives in Austria) thinks restrictions may be tightened, and looking at Worldometers it seems that Omicron is now hitting Austria, this too could be possible for activities inside Austria - but hopefully they still want the tourists (the 48 hour PCR is only for UK, NL, DE, NO isn't it?) |
You've taken that out of context a bit. I was answering a question about news on PCR tests yesterday (no news, it will be tomorrow), and I know travellers are largely concerned with PCR entry tests, but for those of us who live here, we have to also put up with the hundreds of other regulations that change on a weekly basis  Some may loosen, some may get tighter – it is pointless speculating as there often seems to be limited logic behind the announcements, and that makes them difficult to predict.
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| Jefferson Darcy wrote: |
Hi all,
Heading to Austria from Ireland (via Munich) on Saturday week. I received my booster before Christmas but as yet my digital vaccine certificate hasn't been updated (I doubt it will be before I leave) and I only have the card I was given at the vaccination centre as proof of being boosted.
Just wondering if anyone on here knows if presentation of this card along with my double jabbed digital cert will suffice on entering Austria, or indeed Germany at Munich airport.
Apologies if this has been asked already on the thread. |
Hi Darcy, did you get your vaccination in the North or South?
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| buchanan101 wrote: |
| sparklingspringwater wrote: |
| facedown wrote: |
| @sparklingspringwater, Wow |
Wow what? Nothing I have said is novel or controversial.
@buchanan101, totally agreed. It is also astonishing that someone is asking other skiers as to how to get around vaccine regulations when we know that if vaccine and booster take-up had been more widespread we wouldn't have these travel restrictions - which have ruined so many ski trips and caused immense difficulty for those employed in the industry - in the first instance. |
If it wasn't that he'd be sitting unvaccinated on a plane for a couple of hours, I'd encourage him to try and go...and be stuck in a quarantine hotel or kicked straight back out.
The dangers of research using Facebook or Twitter... |
Thanks Sparkling something and Buchanan for your inputs, much appreciated!
I'll keep taking my vitamin D while you guys get your boosters forever, wish you well and safe travels.
(no more offtopic on my side)
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| Jefferson Darcy wrote: |
Hi all,
Heading to Austria from Ireland (via Munich) on Saturday week. I received my booster before Christmas but as yet my digital vaccine certificate hasn't been updated (I doubt it will be before I leave) and I only have the card I was given at the vaccination centre as proof of being boosted.
Just wondering if anyone on here knows if presentation of this card along with my double jabbed digital cert will suffice on entering Austria, or indeed Germany at Munich airport.
Apologies if this has been asked already on the thread. |
Hi Darcy, did you get your vaccination in the North or South? |
In the south
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@sparklingspringwater, Sorry I politely disagree. Nunex has the right to assess his/her own risk. A one size fits all approach has clearly failed and alternatives have continually been shouted down. If the innoculations did what we were led to believe they did, then you'd be protecting yourself but at no risk from anyone who chose not to get the jab.
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@Scarlet, Apologies -didn't mean to. But it was kind of what I said - that entry restrictions could well be loosened (though can't see how beyond the PCR test) and domestic restrictions (that would also apply to tourists once there) could be simultaneously tightened. The two aren't incompatible.
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| peter2512 wrote: |
| Jefferson Darcy wrote: |
Hi all,
Heading to Austria from Ireland (via Munich) on Saturday week. I received my booster before Christmas but as yet my digital vaccine certificate hasn't been updated (I doubt it will be before I leave) and I only have the card I was given at the vaccination centre as proof of being boosted.
Just wondering if anyone on here knows if presentation of this card along with my double jabbed digital cert will suffice on entering Austria, or indeed Germany at Munich airport.
Apologies if this has been asked already on the thread. |
Hi Darcy, did you get your vaccination in the North or South? |
In the south |
Ok, i was in the same position but i got vaccinated in Derry so was able to get booster cert on NI goverment website.
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@Jefferson Darcy, My NHS covid app updated within two days, so yours should have by now ?? : I believe you can request a paper copy, but no idea how to..
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You know it makes sense.
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| facedown wrote: |
| @sparklingspringwater, Sorry I politely disagree. Nunex has the right to assess his/her own risk. A one size fits all approach has clearly failed and alternatives have continually been shouted down. If the innoculations did what we were led to believe they did, then you'd be protecting yourself but at no risk from anyone who chose not to get the jab. |
You can disagree all you like, but your argument is wrong both empirically and rationally. The vaccines perform exactly as we were told they would. Furthermore, vaccine take-up serves to protect the most vulnerable in society, so it is not just a question of individuals assessing their own risk.
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| facedown wrote: |
| @sparklingspringwater, Sorry I politely disagree. Nunex has the right to assess his/her own risk. A one size fits all approach has clearly failed and alternatives have continually been shouted down. If the innoculations did what we were led to believe they did, then you'd be protecting yourself but at no risk from anyone who chose not to get the jab. |
No vaccine offers 100% protection. None ever has, nor was it promised (there were always efficacy values quoted). It's always been said that vaccines are for community as well as personal protection. Hardly blame the vaccines for reduced efficacy against new strains
"one size fits all" - really haven't a clue what you mean by this; I do hope you aren't going to mention deworming tablets - prevention is always better than cure, especially unproven ones. (We have more and more genuine additional treatments in a number of antivirals, steroids etc, but these are always complimentary to the baseline of vaccines)
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| albob wrote: |
| @Jefferson Darcy, My NHS covid app updated within two days, so yours should have by now ?? : I believe you can request a paper copy, but no idea how to.. |
I assume he was vaccinated in Ireland as that is where he is travelling from, not the UK? (My app also updated very quickly - one of the better bits of government work)
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| Our flights to Innsbruck have just been cancelled by EasyJet because of 'changes in government travel restrictions' - is there something that they know of that we don't yet, I wonder? |
Which route/date was that please? I'm flying Gatwick - Innsbruck on Saturday 8th... |
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The return flight has also been cancelled.
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| ptex wrote: |
| clarky999 wrote: |
| ptex wrote: |
| Our flights to Innsbruck have just been cancelled by EasyJet because of 'changes in government travel restrictions' - is there something that they know of that we don't yet, I wonder? |
Which route/date was that please? I'm flying Gatwick - Innsbruck on Saturday 8th... |
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The return flight has also been cancelled. |
That's BS! They are probably rationalising in to fewer flights; BA have done that to me for Innsbruck - but for April, and there were alternatives.
Government policy has resulted in fewer people wanting to travel - that's the reason. It stinks that they've left it so late and not been honest
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@buchanan101 I was indeed vaccinated in ROI
@peter2512 Thanks for that. The form only shows space for the dates of my first and second vaccines. I have these on my covid cert. It's proof of my third (booster) vaccine that I'm worried about. Is there an updated form where a date for a third jab can be entered?
Thanks for the responses
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@Jefferson Darcy, You call it ROI? Someone had a real pop at me a while back for referring to it as ROI not Ireland (though that was twitter, and he is a bit of an a*** "what, you can't type 4 more letters..?". His schtick is quite anti-English).
So, please - Is it Ok to say ROI?
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| buchanan101 wrote: |
@Jefferson Darcy, You call it ROI? Someone had a real pop at me a while back for referring to it as ROI not Ireland (though that was twitter, and he is a bit of an a*** "what, you can't type 4 more letters..?". His schtick is quite anti-English).
So, please - Is it Ok to say ROI? |
It's fine by me.
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| ptex wrote: |
| Our flights to Innsbruck have just been cancelled by EasyJet because of 'changes in government travel restrictions' - is there something that they know of that we don't yet, I wonder? |
Which route/date was that please? I'm flying Gatwick - Innsbruck on Saturday 8th... |
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The return flight has also been cancelled. |
That's BS! They are probably rationalising in to fewer flights; BA have done that to me for Innsbruck - but for April, and there were alternatives.
Government policy has resulted in fewer people wanting to travel - that's the reason. It stinks that they've left it so late and not been honest |
You may be right - I phoned EJ for a refund (no vouchers, thank you) and asked about what the changes are - no point in rebooking if there are going to be more cancellations. The most recent government regulations on their system date from 24 December... and are the same as is being discussed here. So nothing new.
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@buchanan101, I cant see why not, as that is the name of the political entity which the 1948 Act referred to when the it was enabled (so they must have been happy with that name ). Yes, they call it Ireland, but in reality it can be viewed Ireland is the island, on which there are two states, the part not part of the UK (viz. the Republic) and Northern Ireland.
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EJ flight INN-LGW 27 Jan at 15.15 also cancelled and no flights at all 25 or 26 Jan LGW-INN or INN-LGW (don't know if its cancellations, full flights or both)
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