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There's a noticeable increase in the number of flights coming in this morning. Hopefully some of this week's posters managed to make it on to their trips. Hello to those on the BA from LHR who just flew past the window. I'll give the Easyjet from LGW a wave in 5 mins
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Waiting at Innsbruck airport, partner due arrive from Manchester, give her a wave !!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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BRS has dropped the Friday flight to Innsbruck.
Before Covid there was a Tues, Fri, Sun flight. Now down to just the Sunday.
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@Scarlet, ha, only messing, get him well soon.
Must admit to doing same with incoming into LBA in the summer….guess the Jet2 departure location…no waving though.
Last edited by You'll need to Register first of course. on Sun 26-12-21 12:22; edited 1 time in total
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Has anyone driven out to Austria via Harwich -Hook of Holland route whilst the tunnel is a no go? We are 2 adults, boostered and prepared to take a same day Pcr test to make the 48hr requirements. Looking at going 6th Jan for 2 weeks. Would we be able to come back via the tunnel as we would have been out of the UK for a couple of weeks? Any advice greatly appreciated
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we have made it to Salzburg from Manchester. Ryanair did not check anything leaving Manchester. At Salzburg after you got through customs the army was checking for PCR and 3g status before letting you through, but was all relatively seamless. We had FP2 masks but lots of people in normal masks and no one seemed bothered.
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@Blighty1066, it appears you can transit through Holland https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid-19/visiting-the-netherlands-from-abroad . A bigger problem is Germany. I know there are some different views on this but my understanding is that entry into Germany for anyone who has been in the UK in the past 10 days is not allowed for non German citizens or residents with a few very limited exemptions (truck drivers etc). I dont think transit is allowed, though a number of people have been travelling from Austria to Munich for return flight to the UK. That is rather different from travelling practically the entire length of the country. You might get away with not being checked (there are very few border checks, very rare on Dutch / German border). The status of the UK is due to be reviewed before 3rd January so you might want to wait until then. Currently the only definitively legal route for tourist travel between the UK & Austria is by plane.
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Thankyou @munich_irish, I thought Germany might be the grey area. I will give it some thought and time as really not up for sharing airspace on a plane right now
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I have seen on another page this morning big issues in Innsbruck with people who have 72 hr PCR from UK, seen reports that these people were put on the flight back to Luton, I haven’t seen definite confirmation of this.
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Blighty1066 wrote: |
Thankyou @munich_irish, I thought Germany might be the grey area. I will give it some thought and time as really not up for sharing airspace on a plane right now |
There is this from here -- https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/coronavirus/2317268 :: Note, I have not read it in detail...
"..Exemptions from the requirement to quarantine:
Exemptions from the requirement to quarantine apply to persons who:
have merely passed through a high-risk area (not an area of variant of concern) without a stopover,
are only passing through Germany and leaving the country via the fastest route available, or
in the case of border traffic from high-risk areas (but not Areas of variant of concern): persons who have spent less than 24 hours in a risk area or are only entering Germany for a period of up to 24 Hours..."
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You know it makes sense.
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@albob, Germany defines the UK as an "area of variant of concern" hence my interpretation that transit is not allowed except for some narrowly defined reasons which dont include tourism, pretty much the same as France. I know others read the rules differently. It might be possible to sort a route via Belgium, Luxembourg & Switzerland which would minimise the time spent in Germany but am very dubious that a tourist trip from Venlo to Kufstein (8 hours, 750km+) complies. It has been noticeable over the past few weeks that there have been many more compliance checks by the local health offices & police, I would be very careful to keep to whatever rules are in place unless you want a lot of grief.
An overnight stay would also be ruled out, so even if you decided to risk it that means around 12 hours, maybe more, non stop drive in potentially bad winter weather partly in the dark. If there was a really pressing reason maybe, but not sure a skiing holiday falls into that category.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Looks as if it might not be worth making a big effort to get to the Austrian alps in the next few days. The Tiroler Tageszeitung headline is for a "massive thaw" & lots of rain (below 2000m) in the coming days. Skiing forecast https://wepowder.com/en/forum/topic/282679
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Poster: A snowHead
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I recovered from covid 22/12 after isolating for 10 days. I’m double vaccinated and have booked my booster for 11/1.
We fly 18/1 2pm
If I get a pcr test I’ll be doing it at home in Yorkshire then getting a train to London Followed by travelling through Gatwick and Innsbruck airport. If I were to catch the virus where do you think I’d catch it?
It’s not that I disagree with pcr it’s that doing them at the wrong time and after being triple vaccinated and recovered is just stupid.
I’m hoping they relax the requirements in the next couple of weeks
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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2waterford wrote: |
I have seen on another page this morning big issues in Innsbruck with people who have 72 hr PCR from UK, seen reports that these people were put on the flight back to Luton, I haven’t seen definite confirmation of this. |
Where did you see this?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Jones82 wrote: |
I recovered from covid 22/12 after isolating for 10 days. I’m double vaccinated and have booked my booster for 11/1.
We fly 18/1 2pm
If I get a pcr test I’ll be doing it at home in Yorkshire then getting a train to London Followed by travelling through Gatwick and Innsbruck airport. If I were to catch the virus where do you think I’d catch it?
It’s not that I disagree with pcr it’s that doing them at the wrong time and after being triple vaccinated and recovered is just stupid.
I’m hoping they relax the requirements in the next couple of weeks |
Very little chance of that happening given the extremely high numbers (and rising) of infections!!
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Can confirm that the Manchester to Innsbruck flight this morning had its share of mayhem with PCRs going over 48hrs in my case by 20 minutes due the last available PCR on Christmas Eve and a one hour delay at Ringway!!
I was just about to argue my case that we'd been sat on the runway for an hour and they are one hour ahead so in essence 47 hours when Aunie Rico who had a Christmas Day test got me called to the front of passport control and through.
Others were not so lucky the flight was 50% full and I'd say 40% were being held and in all likelihood sent home on the evening flight easyJet via Berlin
Cutting it fine was not a choice btw it was the combination of the rule change and when it happened
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Hospitalisations remain low and if infection rates plateaus next week I think we may see a return to a some what cautious normality
In the end there is a very real economic concern regarding another lockdown. Everyone is right to be cautious but if the health concerns prove to be light to moderate I think you’ll find states quickly back off and try to make some much needed money.
This will be the 3rd season affected by covid, the resorts are desperate for some income
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VolklAttivaS5 wrote: |
2waterford wrote: |
I have seen on another page this morning big issues in Innsbruck with people who have 72 hr PCR from UK, seen reports that these people were put on the flight back to Luton, I haven’t seen definite confirmation of this. |
Where did you see this? |
On the fb ski club page
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Uncle Rico wrote: |
Can confirm that the Manchester to Innsbruck flight this morning had its share of mayhem with PCRs going over 48hrs in my case by 20 minutes due the last available PCR on Christmas Eve and a one hour delay at Ringway!!
I was just about to argue my case that we'd been sat on the runway for an hour and they are one hour ahead so in essence 47 hours when Aunie Rico who had a Christmas Day test got me called to the front of passport control and through.
Others were not so lucky the flight was 50% full and I'd say 40% were being held and in all likelihood sent home on the evening flight easyJet via Berlin
Cutting it fine was not a choice btw it was the combination of the rule change and when it happened |
Sounds like they aren’t messing about.
I bet those people who had a test too old are absolutely kicking themselves.
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2waterford wrote: |
VolklAttivaS5 wrote: |
2waterford wrote: |
I have seen on another page this morning big issues in Innsbruck with people who have 72 hr PCR from UK, seen reports that these people were put on the flight back to Luton, I haven’t seen definite confirmation of this. |
Where did you see this? |
On the fb ski club page |
Thanks I will have a look.
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Anyone else noticed that the entire population of the Netherlands appears to be in town? How many of them had to "prove" 48 hr PCR tests I wonder.
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@RedandWhiteFlachau, it’s easy when they can just jump into the car and head south I guess….
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@RedandWhiteFlachau, they nearly all arrived Thursday and Friday, before the requirement for testing. There are a number of British registered cars here too, mainly property owners that I have seen.
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RedandWhiteFlachau wrote: |
Anyone else noticed that the entire population of the Netherlands appears to be in town? How many of them had to "prove" 48 hr PCR tests I wonder. |
We drove from Munich airport to Söll today and only saw two Dutch Cars in total, usually bumper to bumper NL cars
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Chris_n wrote: |
@RedandWhiteFlachau, they nearly all arrived Thursday and Friday, before the requirement for testing. There are a number of British registered cars here too, mainly property owners that I have seen. |
That explains it
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You know it makes sense.
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Chris_n wrote: |
@RedandWhiteFlachau, they nearly all arrived Thursday and Friday, before the requirement for testing. There are a number of British registered cars here too, mainly property owners that I have seen. |
Not here they didn't. Full changeover days yesterday and today. I have German guests so no requirement to check PCR status, but I don't see too many folks worrying about the Dutch. Flachau Ski schools all full this week as well. Great for local businesses but a bit grating for my Brit chums. Could be worse, at least we don't have the French to deal with.
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Thought Holland was in full lockdown, are the Russians in town too, they were banned earlier in the year I think?
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Poster: A snowHead
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There were Russians and Dutch in Obertauern for sure. Slopes got busier today. They desperately need some snow but it’s forecast to get very warm this week!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@VolklAttivaS5, that's the point the timing of the changes meant that the window of testing opportunities was too narrow. People couldn't react in time it wasn't a case of mañana and then falling foul of well if only I'd sorted this out a day or two earlier and their inaction catching them out.
As a UK traveller the flight was full of people who had done or tried to do the right thing gone the extra mile (other passengers going from Birmingham to Heathrow for a walk in PCR driving up to Manchester and getting knocked back for half an hour isn't fair.
The 72hr chancers weren't allowed to board from what we experienced and to set it at landing time didn't help.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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2waterford wrote: |
VolklAttivaS5 wrote: |
2waterford wrote: |
I have seen on another page this morning big issues in Innsbruck with people who have 72 hr PCR from UK, seen reports that these people were put on the flight back to Luton, I haven’t seen definite confirmation of this. |
Where did you see this? |
On the fb ski club page |
Which ski club?
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Uncle Rico wrote: |
@VolklAttivaS5, that's the point the timing of the changes meant that the window of testing opportunities was too narrow. People couldn't react in time it wasn't a case of mañana and then falling foul of well if only I'd sorted this out a day or two earlier and their inaction catching them out.
As a UK traveller the flight was full of people who had done or tried to do the right thing gone the extra mile (other passengers going from Birmingham to Heathrow for a walk in PCR driving up to Manchester and getting knocked back for half an hour isn't fair.
The 72hr chancers weren't allowed to board from what we experienced and to set it at landing time didn't help. |
so someone got sent back to uk cos he was half an hour over the 48, and that being CET time based when his test was GMT?
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Yes and that would have been me too if Auntie hadn't got asked whether she was travelling alone by the customs officer in the booth.
It's so small that he had a view of what was going on in the hall and Auntie was in front of his queue. He beckoned me out of the your going home area and stated that we shouldn't be concerned about a few minutes.
It was on the train from Jenbach to Mayrhofen that I twigged that the delay was compounded by the time difference my half an hour out of time wasn't beyond 48hrs since my test.
We shared a bus journey with a couple heading to Neiderau who were on our flight with friends that didn't make the cut passport's confiscated.
Obviously we made our onward journey but it was an unsatisfactory episode it has been well documented on here how much effort has gone into people trying to do the right thing
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So has anyone managed to get through with 3 jabs and a proof of recovery?
We’re due out middle of January and my other half is just getting over covid, she will be past the 14 days so will be ok with a proof of recovery certificate but she will likely fail a pcr test given how recently she had it
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Can I just add that beyond the guy patrolling the entrance door at the Arrivals Hall it's been excellent and plain sailing.
If you're coming out be aware and have a great trip
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Just had a great week in Austria at Obertauern, Salzburgerland.
Think we were very lucky as we flew in on 19th (Austria's lockdown finished on 18th and they didn't insist on PCR until 20th)
They'd had snowfall in run up to arrival but not much whilst we were there, mostly blue skies and sunshine.
Actually starting to get a little 2 warm but still plenty of snow plus snow cannon top ups
Had to wear masks in hotels and on ski lifts
Not ideal but just a more uncomfortable snood really
Navigated the confusing requirements for return to UK
- private pre-departure LFT
- Passenger Locator Forms
- day 2 PCR tests
Thanks to everyone on this forum for prior advice
Talk of possible forthcoming lockdown in Austria.
Hope not
Would just encourage everyone to go for it
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Curious re those who have travelled to Austria direct from the U.K. in the last two days - did the airline not check the “48 hour PCR” pre boarding? Appreciate this can be problematic when flights get delayed…
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Jcl34 wrote: |
Curious re those who have travelled to Austria direct from the U.K. in the last two days - did the airline not check the “48 hour PCR” pre boarding? Appreciate this can be problematic when flights get delayed… |
Not for me -> Luton > Salzburg as this wasn't a requirement when we flew out on the 19th
although EasyJet threw a curveball in-flight of asking everyone to complete a paper PLF
no passengers were expecting it
the cabin crew were not expecting it
nobody asked for it on arrival - just covid pass
Coming back, Salzburg airport was painfully slow
had to present PLF (which includes reference number for Day 2 PCR) + pre-departure LFT eveidence at both bag drop and the gate
but not in UK - go figure...
Everybody is just trying to do their best and cover their backsides
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