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Avoriaz / Morzine / Les Gets / Chatel - 2007/8

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toiletduckuk wrote:
Went up a bit, then across and down some uber-mogul thing (I have no idea how to ski moguls, especially ones that might sink the titantic should they ever escape to the ocean), then down into Switzerland which was an experience. I managed to go head over heels twice crossing my skis in ugly turns and sprain the bottom of my foot (which i'm hoping will be alright tomorrow) - any tips for skiing in the slushy/icy mud based snow without dying? I'm knackered!

Err, that'll probably be The Wall you did there toiletduckuk - good choice for your first day wink
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I somehow managed to take in virtually the whole of Morzine / Les Gets today - Chamossiere and Nyon early this morning (quite nice, but every man and their dog on it); the Pleney area mid-morning (ok-ish) and the Les Gets bowl this afternoon (utter mush).

Frankly, there is little to recommend conditions around Morzine / Les Gets - the pistes are thin and mushy; holes are opening up; rocks are poking through and there's general half-term madness on top.

Morale amongst our trainee instructor group is pretty low at the moment. We're supposed to be training in readiness for our instructor course the week after next and we just can't find decent terrain to practice on - the slush isn't great to practise plough turns; nothing is grippy enough to let us practice linked carved turns without risking a very hard landing and the only slopes with decent bumps are blacks - great to ski, but not so great to practice on.

And to cap it off I've just opened two bottles of red wine that were corked; a third that was utter rubbish (something someone had left after renting the apartment last year) and the fourth...I'm just contemplating... Crying or Very sad
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drink them all anyway and make a posting at midnight. that really would be "utter mush"
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kendadj,

So its past 18.00hrs Thursday, has 0.5cm new snow arrived Puzzled
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toiletduckuk, it wouldn't be so hectic if it wasn't absolute peak weak - UK and Paris half terms. A time when only those with no choice should go anywhere near the French Alps.

As for how to survive the poor snow without killing yourself; well, you could start with reading the piste map and avoiding black slopes. Last time I was at the top of The Wall (with terrible snow) there were huge notices saying only very good skiers should attempt it. There is also a chairlift down (which I took). So anyone skiing down it in one of the busiest weeks of the year, in poor snow, unless they are very good (and lucky, as others will fall and could take you with them) is asking for it.
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It wasn't the wall! I was here last year and chairlifted down that one Neh Neh It's the one where you go up a lift and have only one choice of run, a super mogul red that if you go under the boundary rope gets smaller moguls, no alternate. Not sure of the name, I'll go try looking it up.
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A quick map browse makes me think it was Patenailles off Cubore.
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kendadj,

So its past 18.00hrs Thursday, has 0.5cm new snow arrived


I don't know - I'm not in Les Gets until 11th March. I only quoted the forecast and that is all it is - an estimate, a hope.

Actually, the forecast from Metcheck actually looks better today

"Friday
0.5cm of snow at 1954m at 12:00 [Rain at Resort]
1.1cm of snow at 1800m at 18:00 [Rain at Resort]

Saturday
0.8cm of snow at 1653m at 0:00 [Rain at Resort]
0.5cm of snow at 1697m at 3:00 [Rain at Resort]
0.7cm of snow at 1625m at 6:00 [Rain at Resort]
1.5cm of snow at 1678m at 9:00 [Rain at Resort]
2.7cm of snow at 1713m at 12:00 [Rain at Resort]
0.7cm of snow at 1604m at 21:00 [Rain at Resort]

Sunday
3.2cm of snow at 1733m at 0:00 [Rain at Resort]
0.6cm of snow at 1965m at 3:00 [Rain at Resort]
0.6cm of snow at 1885m at 6:00 [Rain at Resort]
1.8cm of snow at 2115m at 12:00 [Rain at Resort]
8.2cm of snow at 1784m at 15:00 [Rain at Resort]
12.6cm of snow at 1260m at 18:00 [Rain at Resort]

Monday
1.7cm of snow at 1006m at 0:00 [Snow at Resort]
3.1cm of snow at 1016m at 3:00 [Snow at Resort]
5.0cm of snow at 1010m at 6:00 [Snow at Resort]
1.2cm of snow at 902m at 9:00 [Snow at Resort]
2.6cm of snow at 1053m at 12:00 [Snow at Resort]
1.9cm of snow at 1085m at 15:00 [Snow at Resort]
3.5cm of snow at 1136m at 18:00 [Snow at Resort]
0.7cm of snow at 1170m at 21:00 [Snow at Resort]

Tuesday
0.9cm of snow at 1070m at 0:00 [Snow at Resort]

Thursday
3.9cm of snow at 1890m at 6:00 [Rain at Resort]

60.0cm expected over next 7 days."
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toiletduckuk wrote:
A quick map browse makes me think it was Patenailles off Cubore.


Hmm is that the one you get to by getting the Chavanette button lift but instead of heading up to the Swiss border, you instead ski down and right a bit to a chair that you'd think (by looking at the piste map) takes to a red that eventually goes down to Lindarets... but when you get there you find there is no choice but to ski down this bloody mogul thing?
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kendadj,

So its past 18.00hrs Thursday, has 0.5cm new snow arrived


Actually, the forecast from Metcheck actually looks better today

60.0cm expected over next 7 days."


Actually your last post said 65.7cm over the next 7 days so todays forecast is worse and the snow forecast for today has not arrived!

Sorry i am not having a go at you i just think some of the snow forecasts are just too 'pie in the sky' and aimed at generating buisness rather than acurate.

We all hope it snows over the weekend and next week.
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toiletduckuk, The "mur de Cubore" is pretty tough in bad conditions. I am just envious that you are over there at the moment and I a back here in not so sunny Kerry.

Have fun and stay safe.
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Actually your last post said 65.7cm over the next 7 days so todays forecast is worse and the snow forecast for today has not arrived!


True, I meant to say better than the day before when it had changed from my previous posting.

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Sorry i am not having a go at you i just think some of the snow forecasts are just too 'pie in the sky' and aimed at generating buisness rather than acurate.


No problem - agree they are just forecasts. As someone on here said "it doens't count until it is on the ground!"

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We all hope it snows over the weekend and next week


Fingers crossed. Speaking purely selfishly, I hope it snows not stop until the day before I get there and then brillian sunshine for the whole week (i.e. everyone's ideal!)
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Roy Hockley, we did that when we were over there: we still don't know how we got to it but as we rode the lift up we commented on how everyone was falling over on something that looked pretty straightforward. The we set off and found it was henious icy moguls with very flat light, of course we spent most of it on our behinds!
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21 degrees on the comedy weather station and mush all over Morzine / Les Gets Mad

On the, errrr, "bright" side, I managed six runs down Creux today, which had absolutely fantastic snow until around 14:00 today - possibly because they pisted it overnight. I don't generally like Cruex when it's been pisted as I like it as a bump run. But it had been very, very well pisted (they're not generally very good at pisting around here) and the run had nice icy, but grippy hardpack - perfect for practicing short radius turns and short swings. Anyway, I'm feeling more optimistic about my skiing today.

Meteo Chamonix is forecasting 45-50 cm over the weekend at 1800m, with snow down to the village. The key question is how much lands as rain in Morzine / Les Gets and how much damage it does before it turns to snow.

Much needed day off tomorrow. I'm attempting melting centre chocoloate puddings on the BBQ tonight. Why? Why not? snowHead
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PhillipStanton, and others in town - we are looking for a Chalet Assistant start IMMEDIATLEY until the end of the season. So if you know of anyone point them our way.

Thats the sort of week I'Ve had!!!
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PhillipStanton, and others in town - we are looking for a Chalet Assistant start IMMEDIATLEY until the end of the season. So if you know of anyone point them our way.

Thats the sort of week I'Ve had!!!

Sorry to hear that.

I have a meeting with my fellow trainees and will pass the word around, although I think everyone is sorted.
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snowandtrek, I know you've had a bad week, and hope next is better Little Angel but on a purely selfish note, have you told all your guests to look after the snow for us? We are in St Jean from 3/3 and it's looking a bit ropey on the webcam Sad Appreciate it if you can have a word with the pisteurs wink
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Quick update from Chatel - I hadn't been out for a week, and wasn't expecting much in terms of good skiing today. However, once I had battled through the traffic chaos and reached the top of the Pre La Joux sector things started looking up.

The run from Chatel to Linderets - odd snow, but good fun!
Mossette/Avoriaz back bowl - great piste conditions and interesting/fun off piste.
The Wall - headed right to the gullys - icy in patches (where you don't want it to be above the cliffs) but managed to make "Fresh Tracks" as the snow soffened and allowed you to dig in.
Crossets - good but getting slushy.

And then home to Chatel at 13.00 to beat the crowds and the slush.

I am over the moon to see how well everything is holding up, and with more snow and (hopefully) colder temps forecast, could be a good week coming up.

The locals are still saying tons of snow in March & April....we'll see.

Ed
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PhillipStanton, Out on Sunday and not looking forward to the forecast of rain. Hopefully the resort will be slightly quieter, although I think it is French half term in the nearby region?
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Snowmonkey wrote:
The locals are still saying tons of snow in March & April....we'll see.

My course finishes on 16th March - so I'd say that there'll be loads of snow on 17th... wink
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PhillipStanton, Out on Sunday and not looking forward to the forecast of rain. Hopefully the resort will be slightly quieter, although I think it is French half term in the nearby region?

It's ok chrisb after the first hour of Gore Tex breakdown you hardly notice the rain for the numbing pain in your hands Skullie
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hi what it is the last weekend in the season you can ski morzine/avoriaz?
Puzzled (sorry if in wrong thread new to all this! )
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tilly - I've skied opn 1st May in Avoriaz for both of the last two years.

I'm not so sure about this year though...
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phillipstanton thanks for that, how would i find out about this year Puzzled
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tilly - I don't know, sorry. I've had a look on the Avoriaz web site and can't see anything.

snowandtrek...?
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6 degrees on the comedy weather station and peeing down. The freezing level is definitely dropping though - it was 9 degrees an hour ago Shocked
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Had to dive into the office to give you an update - 09.30 and the heavy rain has just turned to snow in Chatel! The fields and trees behind our chalet have been getting whiter for the last hour or so. It is all looking good...
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Good to hear Snowmonkey Cool

5 degrees on the comedy weather station - so it's defo heading our way.
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hmmm...it's now turned back to sleet. Oh well, at least it's trying. it's just less than 2 deg according to my equally comedy weather station on the balcony. i'm at 1250 m so I guess a couple of hundred m altitude could make that difference. PhillipStanton, are you in Morzine at 1000 m?

the chamonix meteo is looking pretty good with talks of 30-40 cm on Sun, 30-40 on Mon, and a very active disturbance crossing over on Thur:

http://meteo.chamonix.com/MetPreE.php

While typing (I type slowly) it has turned back to snow. I don't care if I don't have to clear my steps, as long as the mountain gets coverage.

Cheerio...
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Snowmonkey wrote:
i'm at 1250 m so I guess a couple of hundred m altitude could make that difference. PhillipStanton, are you in Morzine at 1000 m?

Yep, I'm in the village - so at around 1000m. The comedy weather station's sensor is also on a southerly balcony, so does suffer from solar gain even when overcast.

One of our group has confirmed that it's been snowing in Avoriaz.

That Meteo Chamonix forecast is looking rather good. The Snow Forecast forecast has improved as well and GFS is looking good Cool
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According to the webcam the conditions at the bottom at Les Gets look awful - looks like rain has done some damage. However, on the bright side received this from Metcheck this morning:-

Latest Forecast


Sunday
1.4cm of snow at 1691m at 3:00 [Rain at Resort]
4.4cm of snow at 1907m at 6:00 [Rain at Resort]
1.4cm of snow at 1755m at 9:00 [Rain at Resort]
6.8cm of snow at 1590m at 12:00 [Rain at Resort]
2.6cm of snow at 1383m at 15:00 [Rain at Resort]
3.0cm of snow at 1111m at 18:00 [Snow at Resort]
3.0cm of snow at 1006m at 21:00 [Snow at Resort]

Monday
6.8cm of snow at 1207m at 0:00 [Rain at Resort]
5.5cm of snow at 1200m at 3:00 [Rain at Resort]
10.0cm of snow at 1154m at 6:00 [Snow at Resort]
2.4cm of snow at 1140m at 9:00 [Snow at Resort]
3.1cm of snow at 1217m at 12:00 [Rain at Resort]
0.9cm of snow at 1072m at 15:00 [Snow at Resort]
1.1cm of snow at 783m at 18:00 [Snow at Resort]

Thursday
9.6cm of snow at 2179m at 0:00 [Rain at Resort]
1.7cm of snow at 1979m at 3:00 [Rain at Resort]
6.4cm of snow at 1794m at 6:00 [Rain at Resort]
5.0cm of snow at 1558m at 9:00 [Rain at Resort]
6.1cm of snow at 1502m at 12:00 [Rain at Resort]
1.8cm of snow at 1400m at 15:00 [Rain at Resort]
6.0cm of snow at 1423m at 18:00 [Rain at Resort]
2.5cm of snow at 1442m at 21:00 [Rain at Resort]

Friday
4.1cm of snow at 1644m at 0:00 [Rain at Resort]
2.4cm of snow at 1981m at 3:00 [Rain at Resort]
4.9cm of snow at 2130m at 6:00 [Rain at Resort]
3.6cm of snow at 2120m at 9:00 [Rain at Resort]
6.9cm of snow at 1996m at 12:00 [Rain at Resort]
5.2cm of snow at 1925m at 15:00 [Rain at Resort]
10.9cm of snow at 1928m at 18:00 [Rain at Resort]
5.3cm of snow at 1668m at 21:00 [Rain at Resort]

Saturday
10.9cm of snow at 1600m at 0:00 [Rain at Resort]
6.0cm of snow at 1401m at 3:00 [Rain at Resort]
9.1cm of snow at 1256m at 6:00 [Rain at Resort]

160.8cm expected over next 7 days.
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kendadj - I suspect the person prepping that forecast owns property in Morzine / Les Gets wink
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Think so ? I would have missed out the bit about rain myself (just noticed that on re-reading my post)!
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kendadj, yes but all of the sunday to thurs snow washed away on friday equals a fat 0. Crying or Very sad
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Literally arrived back from Morzine 1/2 hour ago.

Can confirm it was snowing at 9am this morning at Le Viking 1550m hard. Not sure what happened after that but hope for all you lucky Le Gets still out or going out the forecast runs some much needed snow in. (as per PhillipStanton it was persisting down with rain in the village).

Having said that had a fantastic week, the highlight being a trip to Avoriaz on Thursday. Have got photos if I can work out how to upload?
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Absolutely chucking it down here and 3 degrees on the comedy weather station.

Will be interesting to see what the morning brings...
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kendadj,

Let me know when the forecsat 60.0cm + 65.7cm + 160.8cm = 286.5cm arrives and i will arrange for Tignes to lend you a few snow ploughs & piste bashers to help you cope with all that snow wink wink wink
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