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The Arlberg Snow Report 2013/2014 (Post Season 50cm New Snow :-)

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stuartm555, nice photos
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Anyone know of a local offpiste guidebook available in local stores (preferably in English)?

Also seen the rumours of Powder Club for buttons on a Saturday, website has nada, is this verifiable? Talk to them Friday evening?
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fatbob, Go to the bookshop (opposite Hotel Alte Post) in Dorfstrasse they have all the books
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fatbob, you want the Andy Thurner offpiste guide (second edition), there's also a Ski Touring one by him, both excellent. For sale at Sport Pete and Jennwein.
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Good day - mostly skiied up around Galzig. Ventured up to Valluga once but the light was rubbish. Red 19 was unpisted, there were quite a lot of people coming up on the lift and deciding to go back down. Also there was a guy being med-evaced on the way down, looked like he'd gone off the route cos of the vis and done his knee.

On piste conditions are great, off piste is looking decidedly thin in places, but still some powder to be had. Snow on piste is quite soft so the runs are getting pretty cut up, particular blue 4 and 1 back into resort.

Nearly got killed on blue 4 by a bunch of gnarly off piste c*nts who decided to overtake me very close at speed on both sides. Bellends.

Also saw the helicopter taking someone off blue 5. Be careful out there!
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Nearly got killed on blue 4


Sounds like a normal home run down Steissbachtal Sad . I'm amazed there are not more accidents down there. I tend to keep high on the right (basically traverse the Bachseit slope) as much as possible. If it's really busy you are better of taking the detour at the top to the skier's right (4a) and then skiing down Kandahar (black 2). If that doesn't appeal you can also take the Tanzboden lift up from the end of 4a and ride the cable car down from Galzig. All of these options are preferable to a blood wagon.
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Steissbachtal is the most dangerous run & its not normally the off piste folks.
Speed is the manj factor,carvers.

People in past seasons havE been killed on this run


I aways avoid this run at Peak times. Always take Kandahar or direct
Down Osthang.
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Helicopters are not unusual. During the peak season they are hauling folk off
From 1st lift till the last non stop.. Arlberg has three Choppers.
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I didn't find blue 4 too bad generally, it was just the narrow bit at the top. Once it opens up it's ok.

Beginners are quite easy to deal with, just give them loads of room and ski slowly - but when a dozen guys start zipping past you very close and you can't even put a turn in to scrub off speed without hitting them it's much harder.

In any case St Anton doesn't feel too busy to me at the moment, I assume it is a fairy quiet week overall because I was expecting it to be much busier. Barely had to queue at any lifts.

First time in St Anton or Austria though, so didn't know what to expect. (so far it's really good apart from the indoor smoking)
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bobmcstuff, only indoor smoking in temporary structures, ice bars etc.

Think people make too much of Steissbachtal, there's plenty of room down there, yes OK people ski fast but if you're a competent skier and give others a wide berth shouldn't present much of a big deal I'd have thought..... wink
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Markymark29, not in my experience.... Sad Saw people smoking in s'Murmele, in the hotel bar I was in, in Haeferl, Cafe Schneider etc. If there's a ban it's not enforced. Maybe it changed at New Year??
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Markymark29 wrote:
bobmcstuff, only indoor smoking in temporary structures, ice bars etc.



Really??!!?? I would never have guessed, people just seem to be smoking everywhere I've been... As far as I can remember anyway...
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bobmcstuff wrote:
Markymark29 wrote:
bobmcstuff, only indoor smoking in temporary structures, ice bars etc.



Really??!!?? I would never have guessed, people just seem to be smoking everywhere I've been... As far as I can remember anyway...


The Underground is the only 100% smoke free bar I know of. Although I *think* Cafe Anton is also smoke free indoors, not 100% sure though.
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sah, 1st January
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Pub 37 used to be, although isn't this season, Cuba I think is also smoke free, and Kandahar might be (been a few years since I was in either of them).

Whether you can smoke indoors or not depends on the size of the place and the owners, if a bar is below a certain size (eg Pub 37, Fang, Tom Dooley's) then it is up to the owners, larger places have to have a separate smoking area (Anthony's for example), some of which are better segregated/ventilated than others.
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Markymark29,

Its not in force yet businesses/cafes have skated arouund the issue by for example applying to become tobaconists. However, they all know an outrightban is coming & places like St anton where 50% of the guest are British they get a lot of complaints & also many of the foreign cheap eastern euro staff do not want to work in a smoke filled environments allday.

http://www.salzburg.com/nachrichten/oesterreich/politik/sn/artikel/gesundheitsminister-stoeger-will-totales-rauchverbot-91860/
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Next few days we will feel the southerley fohn & at the weekend some light dustings to clean your skis & boards Nothing to get excited about

The Snorkel still remains in the house this season. rolling eyes rolling eyes
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Folks do not forget to checkout Sonnenkopf. I ski over there qite a lot.

Really is a weekend/day trippers place but its very quiet in the week. Some fantastic North face Tree Terrain & great Off Piste down to Langen

They noramlly (like Stuben) get more snow than St Anton

May want to check out this report or at least look at the fotos over on the German forum

http://www.alpinforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=50123&p=4964867&hilit=arlberg#p4964867
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Can you not just let one secret stay secret?
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futurecut, +1
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stanton, what's the easiest way to get to Sonnenkopf without a car? There's no direct bus from St Anton is there? Is it possible to get a Post Bus from Stuben?
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futurecut, it's no secret, never was. It's on the piste map for a start. Thing is 99% of people who know can't be bothered to go there from St Anton so it stays quiet Happy
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sah, yep 90 from Stuben. 15 mins.

http://www.stantonamarlberg.com/images/stories/pdf-dateien/fahrplaene-so-wi/winter2013-14/Linie_90_Bludenz_LangenAA_Stuben_wi-so13-14.pdf
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We were staying in St Jacob a few years ago - and we asked our landlady where the best snow was and which area was her favourite. She expressed a wry smile and said go to the Sonnenkopf area but don't tell anyone. We did and whilst not a big area, we had a ball laying down fresh tracks with just a handful of other people. I prefer these relatively unknown areas - it is great to escape the crowds and feel far safer, not getting wiped out by some noob with all the gear and no idea. Toofy Grin
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If anyone saw four bananas getting chased by a gorilla, one of the bananas was me.

Unbelievable ski today - fantastic weather and incredible pistes.
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Markymark29, futurecut,

I been shreading over there for many years (old chair) before they put the Gondola in.

Irs great everyone with there backbacks & helmets are commutting allday to Warth so what would you do
For fresh POW? No Brainer.

Tip. Never follow the Sun thats what Tourists Do!

Very Happy
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I am a tourist. I just like going skiing.
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futurecut wrote:
Can you not just let one secret stay secret?


Sonnenkopf is hardly a secret dude!
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From my limited but fun experiences, Arlberg's so big if one secret disappears there's always somewhere else to go!

So far it's been a cr@p season and I've had a great time every time i've ventured out! Still not sure if i prefer it to Montafon (there are 93.2% less douches in the Silvretta) but there appears to be a limitless number of options here!

Wouldnt worry too much about secrets, especially in a resort where everone seems to ski with a guide!
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Light above Nasserein was pretty flat so went over to Rendl, which is a great little area. Spent a little while watching people nailing themselves in the park. They're currently building an absolutely gigantic kicker, not sure if it is for public or competition.

We were a little late out this morning after overindulging at apres yesterday (and the fact it's staff day off so no cooked breakfast to get up for...) so we were skiing Rendl over lunch when it was nice and quiet.

Staff were trying to get us to go apres with them today (they're all about our age give or take), but I don't think my liver or my wallet can take it. Plus I feel disappointed with myself if I end up missing part of a ski day...

Might try and go over to sonnenkopf tomorrow - but I think there will be limited appetite from the other people in my group because it seems like a bit of a faff to get to and I feel like we've only just scratched the surface of the local stuff.
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Also there's a bit of ice showing on the resort runs down to the Nasserein. Pistes overall are still in great shape though.
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Bit more about the Rendl-Kappl link, not had chance to fully read through it yet, but though others might like to see it.
https://www.tirol.gv.at/buergerservice/kundmachungen/kundmachung/artikel/arlberger-bergbahnen-ag-und-bergbahnen-kappl-gmbh-co-kg/
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Heading to St Anton on 15 Feb, can't wait. Would be good to meet up with snowheads who are around...
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Disaster. Projekt Dias (Kappl Rendl Link) is in full plan mode.

http://www.tt.com/wirtschaft/wirtschaftspolitik/7817570-91/entscheidungsjahr-f%C3%BCr-liftverbindung.csp

If you never skied Malfontal Off Piste do it soon Sad Sad
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Folks.

The main point here.

From today all the submitted documents/plans which
Is a mountain of paper is from today up for Public Consultation.
This will take 1 year.
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Bit cloudy/misty in st anton this morning. Skiied over to Stuben which was sunny and comparatively quiet, then came back and went up Rendl for a bit. Did a few runs through the park as well, and actually held it together. Unusual for me!

Last day skiing tomorrow, unless we can get some in on Sunday morning. Will be sad to go - been very impressed by St Anton and the Arlberg in general. Need to come back to ski the Lech/Warth side. Although Scottish skiing beckons Toofy Grin
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Warm today

Rendl closed. 90kmph winds uptop coming from South west.

Snow tomorrow.
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Late start due to hangove. Snow was soft, sticky and generally hard work, then I got rained on so sacked it off.

Spent most of the time skiing wishing I had my Ones, they blast through soft cut up stuff really easy. The dinky carvers I'm using were just getting deflected all over the place.

Might go out tomorrow morning depending on visibility/hangover.
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Wondered why Rendl had been closed, been at work all day and noticed the gondolas out but unmoving. Looked like a perfect day for Rendl from resort, sunny and warm until not that long ago. Weather closing in now so I'm off to catch the rest of the rugby.
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