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The Arlberg Snow Report 2013/2014 (Post Season 50cm New Snow :-)

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GFS looking pretty clear for snow on Sunday:



It doesn't look like a massive dump (tee hee), but is that amount of snow likely to have any impact on transfers etc.?

Pretty excited... The next 2 days of work are going to go very slowly!
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bobmcstuff wrote:
GFS looking pretty clear for snow on Sunday:



It is? I'll take your word for it, I have no idea what those graphs mean or how accurate they are. But other easier-to-read sources suggest some snow over the weekend, 11cm in the village on Sunday. E.g. Bergfex

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is that amount of snow likely to have any impact on transfers etc.?


No. 11cm is barely worth getting the ploughs out for. Roads are only usually affected when closed by avy risk, it will take a lot more than that to cause any closures. Of course Bergfex depth predictions are pretty approximate, it could be more, but it won't close any roads. Sorry!
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sah, the lines at the bottom are for precipitation (using the scale on the right), the lines in the middle are for temperature (using the scale on the left). The red line is the 30yr average, the green line is the main run (which I believe is the one many websites e.g., snow-forecast use for their forecasts). The other lines have slightly different input parameters and so on. If all the lines are saying the same thing then it's considered more likely. At least, that's my understanding Very Happy

It's from GFS which is an American weather forecast supercomputer. It's generally considered fairly accurate a few days out but beyond that (like any forecast) it gets a bit less certain.

I would guess GFS is one of the inputs Bergfex use, they seem to be saying pretty much the same thing anyway (presumably they also use other models and local knowledge as well).

I don't want any closures! Just got my eyes glued to the webcams/forecasts at the moment, you know how it is. So long as the pistes are in decent shape (apparently they are) and I can get there I'll be happy. 11cm will be enough to make the place look nice and wintery as well. So it's all good snowHead
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bobmcstuff, interesting. Bergfex use data from ZAMG, presumably ZAMG use the same (or similar) models to the US. I *think* ZAMG get data from ECMWF but I may have just made that up.
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ECMWF is the European model and according to nozawaonsen on the weather thread it's generally considered a little more accurate - however I think you need to pay to get the full data from ECM whereas GFS is freely available (hence why so many websites use it).
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Folks

Outlook for snow remains the same. Friday light snow. Saturday sunny SundayMonday snow.
If we are very lucky we may get 50cm (max) in total out of the next 3-4days.

Transfers wont be affected.

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Malfontal today, epic conditions......if I could post my GoPro footage on here I would just to show how great it is, snow is super soft and mad amounts of untracked pow, cant stop laughing at the moment....people need to stop worrying about the conditions, its just brilliant. Everything is open, the off piste routes are fantastic, pistes are as good as ive ever seen them and we've skied here 50 weeks+, back in Arlberg in March for 2 weeks, if I could I'd be back next week, just brilliant at the moment. Ignore Bergfex and just get out here,it's snowing right now, early start again tomorrow...... Toofy Grin
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stanton, can't stop laughing! Toofy Grin
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Markymark29,

Matter of interest,Whats the runout like in Pettneu?

ulmerhutte,

Just not deep enough, unless it was for sightseeing. Much better in a Glyder Very Happy
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stanton, pretty sketchy run out - the track is very icy but no stones. Corners are bermed so you just run round the outside but the track if snowplough top to bottom and at times you feel it's running away! Great fun though, the top is fantastic and after the traverse the main bowl is in great shape, as is the valley to the hut. Snow in Hinterrendl also 20-25cm soft powder yesterday.

Snowing heavily 07.30 Friday and its all white down in St Jakob, bad viz proper day ahead! Toofy Grin
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Private skiing again, it must be Saturday!

Great conditions.
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Snow today on Stuben north face and Shimmelegg as good as I've seen it, knee deep pow, awesome conditions, cold and sunny!! Very Happy

Epic week, back again in 5 weeks......just love the place!
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IMarkymark29,

Its getting there. I made a few turns over there
Today after virgin on Zurs Trittkopf
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20cm overnight, on way home. It'll be fantastic from now on, v cold too.
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Markymark29, looking forward to the Gopro footage.
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Folks. Can confirm the 20cms its still snowing.

Al higher lifts are closed!.
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Still snowing, although not as heavily as before, looking like there's around the 30cm mark in resort now, so no doubt more up the mountain.
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Just been reflecting on my week, never had so much fun in pow, with such good weather in the day and dumping at night, and nobody about... just arrived home from Munich/ Manchester perfect trip despite snow on the ground at the airport and de-iced plane, proper winter weather. Rest of our team had to fly back from Friedrichshafen because Innsbruck closed due to heavy snow. kitenski, will try a small edit over next few days and see if I can post on here 32gb to get through! Toofy Grin

Resort was rammed yesterday morning with locals all grinning like it was first day of the season, to many I guess it was!
Car parks all busy at 8.30 as we jumped on first lift for a last day until 3pm of all the "biggies", then run for train at 5pm for stop over in Munich.

Great week.......bring on Warth and St Anton again early March Toofy Grin
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Markymark29,

Comeback soon.

Innsbruck was closed due to Fog not snow.

Yes, biggest dump since thr first in November.
Of course locals smiling now thry know for sure the
Season is safe.

I will be hitting some PP tomorrow morning Very Happy
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Markymark29, be brutal with the edits, 2-3 mins about max I reckon !!

How long did it take to get to Warth from Lech?? we are out early April
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Snow again overnight. I headed up just after 8:45 so nice and quiet. Was snowing slightly at the time, couple of cms fresh on the pistes and some nice powder just off the sides (about calf deep). Came down from Kapall and took what would normally be black 22 down to the Galzigbahn from Gampen (it's not been pisted or open yet this season) and got some nice soft powder, although some bits still a little thin where the wind has pushed it around. Then headed up the Galzigbahn but was much windier at the top and it had started to snow a lot heavier with visibility having dropped a lot too (from Gampen I could see all the way over to Galzig, by time I got up Galzig some 20minutes later, the Osthangbahn chairs were just about visible. After a few runs I headed back down to town where it was also snowing heavily, but it has now eased, although still snowing a little.
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kitenski,

The Warth lift does not run at full power (becuase of the middle Wiebermahd station intergrated pickups) so you have to give your self time when you head back from over there.

If you want to avoid the bus (Alpe Rauz ) scramble in Lech ski down to the old post office (Schlosskopf 2 man chair ) at the far end of Lech ( this is where the bus USED to turn round) then walk up the street to the new turna round point (Oberlechbah). Here you can load and get a seat no problems.
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kitenski,ski down to the old post office (Schlosskopf 2 man chair ) at the far end of Lech ( this is where the bus USED to turn round) then walk up the street to the new turna round point (Oberlechbah). Here you can load and get a seat no problems.


Is that where the free car park is? we usually drive over from Stuben and park there....
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Some busses still turn around by the Schlosskopf (or they did when I was there last week). Can definitely echo getting on the bus by the Oberlech cable car, much easier than the scrum at any other of the stops. Also not all the busses stop at all of the stops at peak times, when we went to Warth last week we got on at the aforementioned stop, and the bus drove straight to Rauz with just one stop at Zürs Seekopf (bus was nearly full from the Postamt in Lech anyway).
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kitenski, never went round to Lech/ Zurs/ Warth this week. We are round there for a week early March so decided to focus 100% on Rendl/ Galzig/ Stuben based stuff and avoid white ring which whilst nice to do for a day out isn't best use of pow time!

Looking forward to Warth/ Schroeken heard lots of good things from locals whilst away and have lined up some routes, also got details of a local guide we met so all useful stuff.

Plus the walkway in Stuben to the hotel you stay at looks very useful. Plus not as obtrusive as I thought. Was going to go in for lunch but wasn't sure if they'd want half the snow from Albona in there (had just come down north face in deep pow) so we went to Murmele for a great lunch instead.
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Great snow, plenty of it too.

But mainly what i've learnt so far is that our group cannot be trusted with unlimited wine at dinner... Painfully hungover.

On the plus side i was too out of it to make any decisions at ski hire this morning, they've put me on some 161cm carvers with rocker (normally ski 180cm whitedots), they seem to turn by the power of thought and require almost no effort, so they're covering for my complete lack of composure quite nicely.

Had to come back for a lie down. Might get another few runs in in a bit.
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BMC, my parents are there now, apparently in an underground bar drinking beer!
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BMC, my parents are there now, apparently in an underground bar drinking beer!


Are you sure they didn't mean "The Underground" bar; which is actually very much above ground? Happy
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BMC, my parents are there now, apparently in an underground bar drinking beer!


I find that hard to believe, the Austrians have other uses for their cellars. Toofy Grin

Shirley you mean "The Underground on the piste".


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Haha, the text said "in underground bar, large beer"

A lot can get lost in translation when 65 yr old parents are let loose with a smartphone.
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homers double, ........especially in a bar like that where they're 20 years younger than the owner!!!
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But mainly what i've learnt so far is that our group cannot be trusted with unlimited wine at dinner...


as long as there paying I wouldnt complain Very Happy
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Some photos from our trip last week ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuartmarshall/sets/72157640229153203

It looks like we managed to convert spring to winter too while we were there Smile
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