 Poster: A snowHead
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| All good this morning for getting through with a booster under 14 days ago at Birmingham. |
All good for me too at Manchester.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Has anyone been able to fly to Munich and transfer to Austria this weekend?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Doccam wrote: |
| Has anyone been able to fly to Munich and transfer to Austria this weekend? |
Yes I flew to Munich on Friday evening, stayed the night in Munich and took the train to Austria on Saturday.
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So jealous of you brave souls who are still going skiing in Austria. For various reasons - not just covid - it didn’t work out for us this Christmas (again) and I’m gutted. We should have been flying today. I just wanted to wish you a lovely time and hope for the sake of all the poor businesses caught up in this nightmare that there’s a great snowfall this season.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Anyone flying into Innsbruck should expect a bit of a queue on landing, due to police checks of all passengers for compliance with the new rules. They are being particularly thorough with flights coming in from the UK and the Netherlands. For anyone landing without a PCR test who needs one to enter (those without a booster), there is a free testing centre in the airport, though I doubt that's useful to many as you won't have been allowed to board without one. It sounds like there are increased checks on the road borders too. https://tirol.orf.at/stories/3135141/
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Thank you @Scarlet, . I'm not flying out for a couple of weeks but it's good to now that the regs are being enforced. It gives hope for the future.
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@Doccam, the German entry rules changed yesterday.
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@bambionskiis, Why "brave souls", in my view they are people who are prepared to put up with loads of hassle, and can allow for potential fall-out whilst there/ on return if they test +ve at some point. Personally I can't allow for any issues on return due to commitments early January so going is not an option but I wouldn't call them brave......I'd call them fortunate.
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Ah thought was Saturday night rules changed. Anyway updates appreciated.
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Any idea how it's for daily visits? Still 2G and obligatory PCR/booster or not? Daily commutes suppose to still go through 3G only, if I understood correct? Personally I have no wish to get another shoot less then 3 months after 2nd dose (not to mention I'm not even eligible to it until it's 6 months after 2nd dose), and god knows what else when yet another country decides to invent some other rule on their own. And 100eur PCR test for day of skiing is not really an option either.
*sarcasm on* Thanks good for well coordinated EU thing *sarcasm off*.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Latest update: https://www.austria.info/en/service-and-facts/coronavirus-information/entry-regulations
So currently its vaxxed OR recovered, plus PCR test OR booster to enter.
If you are relying on recovery (case for my 13 year old) note it now says the NHS message of +ve is not sufficient, you need certificate/medical document:
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Proof of Past Infection
You can enter Austria for 180 days after a SARS-CoV-2 infection. Please make sure you have a medical document showing when you recovered. The NHS email / text message that you tested positive is not sufficient.
What proof is accepted?
Proof of vaccination, or past infection can be a doctor's certificate, a vaccination certificate/vaccination card/vaccine passport (including a pdf from an electronic vaccine passport, either on your phone or as a hard copy), or an official/medical certificate proving a past infection, either in German or English. If your original certificate is not in English or German, please use this official health certificate in German or English as proof.
If you are unable to show any of these documents, you are required to take a PCR within 24 hours of arriving in Austria (please note that you WILL need to show proof of full vaccination/past infection when checking into a hotel). However, in this case, you will need to register digitally before travelling to obtain pre-travel clearance, and are required to show proof of it at the border (either digitally or as a hard copy). |
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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The thing taking the time at Innsbruck is they are requiring families to be stood together as you need to provide your hotel name and a phone number. This is all being written down. No check on vacination status here at all.
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For those who are concerned about timings of the booster jab - valid from day 1:
Taken from here: https://www.austria.info/en/service-and-facts/coronavirus-information/entry-regulations
"Travellers from all other countries not included in the lists above"
Entering Austria is possible.
All travellers need to show either proof of full vaccination OR proof of past infection.
In addition, travellers who have not yet received their booster jab are required to show a negative PCR test (valid 72 hours). Please note: The booster jab is valid from the first day."
We hoping to travel on 24th Dec, keeping everything crossed that nothing changes in the next few days!
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You know it makes sense.
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Well we’ve made it to Innsbruck and onto the transfer bus 
In my opinion if anything is out of place UK side then you aren’t getting on the flight anyway. They checked more thoroughly than the politzei here at the arrivals gate. He checked and stamped all passports and only asked if everyone has had a vaccine without requiring ’papers’…
He took the main contact (me) destination accommodation, return date and my phone number….that was it.
Have a good holiday.
On the bus (full) Crystal rep was quick and put an envelope with all the lift passes etc. all prebooked into my hands.
Good luck to you all and hope you all get plain sailing!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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So as I understand it even if only transiting through Germany on the way back we still all need a negative test on top of being jabbed. Because of Christmas, getting a test in the resort is tricky so we’re hoping to use the self administered c19 tests that we brought from the UK. Not sure they will be accepted in Germany though! Wonder what others are doing?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Does anyone know by chance, if there is any detail at all for those who have had two doses but yet it would be too early for a booster?
I am less than 120 days from my second dose, which even under Austria rules would imply that I cannot receive a booster… You would have thought that would be a valid exception from the PCR rule?
Yet I’ve found nothing in the wording that would imply that 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@surfnspear, exactly once you’re here it’s easy. It’s the check in UK side where they are likely to be particular about things and misinterpret the rules.
Apart from the mask wearing which we do at home anyway (in my local Tesco people didn’t really stop with the masks, not wearing one seemed to be the exception rather than the rule) this trip for me has been no hassle whatsoever. So far 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@TheFlyingRussian, if you read the link in the post by@katfc, it is quite clear. If you haven’t had a booster you need a negative PCR test. There are no exceptions. Why should you expect an exception if you don’t yet qualify for a booster. Getting a negative PCR test is your get of jail card.
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@Tiefschneetaucher, I brought with me a C19 testing lateral flow test for the way back so I’m going to do that at the earliest opportunity when I do my PLF. That’s all we need isn’t it? I’ve had my booster in Oct by the way.
I did a LF test yesterday anyway to check all was well.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Still confusion over children re. 2G+ for entry as to whether additional PCR is required if vaxxed or recovered:
Neither the Austrian Embassy page: https://www.bmeia.gv.at/en/austrian-embassy-london/travelling-to-austria/coronavirus-covid-19-and-travel-abroad/
nor the Austrian Social Ministry page: https://www.bmeia.gv.at/en/austrian-embassy-london/travelling-to-austria/coronavirus-covid-19-and-travel-abroad/
deal with children over 12.
The Austria.info page: https://www.austria.info/en/service-and-facts/coronavirus-information/entry-regulations
deals with the basic premise that everyone needs to be vaxxed or recovered plus PCR test (or booster), but goes on to say :
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| Children up to the age of 17 are able to enter Austria with no need to quarantine if accompanied by fully vaccinated or recovered adults, but from the ages of 12 to 17 they also have to show proof of a negative PCR test/past infection/vaccination. |
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Do children need a test?
Yes, children from the age of 12 need a PCR test or proof of vaccination/past infection. Attention! Minors travelling alone must always be tested! |
Both of those suggest that recovered or vaxxed children do NOT need additional PCR for entry if travelling with fully vaxxed adults. They need a test OR proof of vax, or recovery.
But then the Crystal/TUI guidance (usually updated daily, I won't post link as the link expires when the new version is posted) whom we are flying with :
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Children aged 12-17 need to book and pay for a PCR test to be taken in the 72 hours before your flight arrival time. This does not apply if your
child has had a booster jab. |
So Crystal seem to be asking for a children to have a PCR whereas Austria.Info suggests they need a PCR or recovery or vaccination.
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The Jet2 Experience STN to SZG 20/12/21.
Check-In. Required to show 2 Dose plus Booster OR, 2 Dose and negative PCR. People were refused boarding if non-compliant. Then directed to purchase "3 layer surgical mask" as FFP2 not good enough for the airline! Flight 1/3 full.
Arrival. COVID Pass check and given free FFP 2 mask.
You couldn't make it up.
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| Jimmole wrote: |
| @TheFlyingRussian, if you read the link in the post by@katfc, it is quite clear. If you haven’t had a booster you need a negative PCR test. There are no exceptions. Why should you expect an exception if you don’t yet qualify for a booster. Getting a negative PCR test is your get of jail card. |
Well from my perspective, if you don’t allow your own residents to get a booster under 120 days from the second jab, you can’t require that from your visitors (similar to exemptions for children or pregnant women).
But I have learned to not question rules these days for signs of logic 
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@Gazzza, No sorry, no kids in the guest's party this week.
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@Gazzza, Do your children satisfy 2G rules to enter hotels, restaurants etc.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Yes they both had covid in Oct so satisfy 2G on recovered basis .
We have a copy of their +ve test result, as well as the Austrian format Medical Certificate (https://www.ris.bka.gv.at/Dokumente/Bundesnormen/NOR40234210/II_222_2021_Anlage_4.pdf ), completed and signed by a Doctor.
The youngest is 11 and technically doesn't need it, but we've got it for both the 13 and 11 year old just to be sure.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Gazzza, This is the latest from the Austria.info web.
ENTRY TO AUSTRIA
Everyone aged 12 years and older needs to show proof of full vaccination, recovery, or a negative PCR test to enter Austria. Please note: From 20 December, a negative PCR test is needed in addition to vaccination/recovery proof unless you have already received your booster jab.
Seems the goal posts are continually moving.
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@Mankei, thanks for the reply.
So just to be clear you're saying that UK travellers, (even triple jabbed with a letter from their mum's) can't fly to Germany, say Manchester to Munich for onward transit to Austria, in our case by train from the Airport to Mayrhoffen?
Before I rebook passage has anyone tried this since the rule change?
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You know it makes sense.
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Is the Pcr test 48 hours or 72 hours before arrival in Austria. The websites just say a PCR test but no time limit.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Uncle Rico, There is some confusion over this. If you read further up (yes I know it is a very long thread but practically every question has been answered multiple times) you will see that as I read the rules, with very few exceptions - which do not include transit via train to Austria, arrivals from the UK are banned. Others have found some text on the Germany Interior Ministry site which suggests that transit is allowed in certain circumstances with a pile of paperwork. No clear answer which is correct.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Uncle Rico, @munich_irish, transit by car through Germany seems to be allowed, stopping only for fuel and bathroom use.
The ban on carriage applies to all forms of public transport including flights, train, bus, taxi. Transit through a DE airport, not leaving the airside terminal is permitted.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Cheers guys that was the confusing bit, the train and acceptable transit. I had read earlier posts but was none the wiser about my admittedly specific concerns added to the fact that as an adult group of 10 we had varying degrees of optimism/pessimism spreading through our ranks on an hourly basis
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Mankei, That is my interpretation. Though the car bit is pretty moot as getting across the channel is well nigh impossible if you are in the UK.
This is from the Lufthansa website, updated this morning
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Lufthansa is currently only allowed to carry the following booked passengers on departures (or travel commencements) from the countries of the Virus variant areas:
- Passengers with German nationality or passengers with a valid residence permit in Germany (upon presentation of a German registration certificate). These passengers (aged 12 years and older) must present a negative PCR test result at the time of departure. The test must not have been carried out more than 72 hours before the planned arrival time in Germany. An online registration on the website http://www.einreiseanmeldung.de is also required. (also valid for passenger with a German nationality with a connecting flight).
- Passengers of other nationalities, but only if they have a connecting flight to a destination outside Germany and do not leave the transit area in Frankfurt or Munich. Also in this case, a negative PCR test must be carried out no longer than 72 hours before the scheduled time of arrival in the transit area in Germany.
- All guests with final destination in Germany must follow the local German quarantine regulations. Information about this can be found on the pages of the German Federal Ministry of Health Arrivals from the above-mentioned virus variant countries are currently subject to a 14-day quarantine obligation in Germany, which cannot be terminated prematurely. |
Pretty clear Lufthansa will NOT be transporting passengers from the UK you if you are not a German resident or directly transferring to another flight. No transiting to Austria or anywhere else!
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I was chatting to one of the Hutte owners earlier today who mentioned that 27 flights from the UK arrived at Innsbruck yesterday  . I’ve not verified that but, there’s definitely concern that the Brits are bringing Omicron on holiday with them…
Anyway, the local solution seems to be to dish out plenty of Blasius’ Krauter Schnapps as suitable protection. Against every known ailment and injury.
Incidentally, the lifties were rigorously enforcing mask wearing.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Austria’s infection rates were down again yesterday.
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I don’t understand why Lufthansa insists on a PCR when the German government website is clear that a rapid antigen test less than 24 hours old is also acceptable?
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Hi,
We are hoping to travel from Dublin on the 27th through Munich. We are 21 days post booster but the app isn't updated yet. We have flimsy cardboard vaccination booster cards. Will they be accepted or will we need PCR TESTS?
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| Tiefschneetaucher wrote: |
| I don’t understand why Lufthansa insists on a PCR when the German government website is clear that a rapid antigen test less than 24 hours old is also acceptable? |
I thought that link above was for flights from the UK not going back.
I’ve had a quick look on the Lufthansa website and there’s no mention of needing to do anything different for the way back home.
You would think they would send an email if they needed a PCR done for the way home.
So I think the lateral flow test is still alright.
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@hrooney18, official proof of 3rd vaccination in German or English is acceptable.
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I’ve had a quick look on the Lufthansa website and there’s no mention of needing to do anything different for the way back home.
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Was also looking at this on the Lufthansa website. It doesn't seem to mention anything extra for a return to the UK.
Hoping I now don't have to get a PCR test to get home to UK.
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