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Icelandic volcanic ash alert grounds UK flights

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achilles, my understanding is that the captain has absolute discretion.
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Helen Beaumont wrote:
Freddie Paellahead, looking at their altitudes they are above the ash cloud. Plane over us a few minutes ago though, looks to be JET 2


Nope looking at departure and arrival codes many airports under the cloud (inc Schipphol and at least one of the Paris ones) are operational


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under a new name, in law you are spot on. Reality and the law are not always the same thing.
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davkt, yup - and were in the met office sin area when I last looked.
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On-piste fatality rate

measured how?
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Looks like wind direction might be due to change, at least acording to BBC weather http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/333?&search=heathrow&itemsPerPage=10&region=uk
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achilles, Yep, interesting hold pattern flown by a BA flight from Calgary between Liverpool and Stoke at the moment, presumably trying to get clearance for LHR but now headed into Paris by the looks of it.
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abc wrote:
Frankly, this, coming from someone who will ski off-piste when the fatelity rate is much higher than flying, is rather interesting.


On-piste fatality rate is way higher, which I find even more interesting wink

On-piste fatality is irrelavent, unless they make any claim to compare with the safety of flying in volcanic ash, as you did.
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And a BA from Vancouver currently holding over the Isle of Man supposedly heading into LHR, another from San Fransisco holding over Ireland as well and one from Lagos holding over Le Harve! If I didn't know better I'd say they are waiting for clearance into Heathrow!
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And one from Lagos circling over the Channel Islands too.

D'ya think they can keep circling until 1pm tomorrow when it looks as though Heathrow might be free:
http://metoffice.com/aviation/vaac/data/VAG_1271785386.png

Also note the big strip down Germany, Switzerland and Italy that's opening up. But it's a bit worrying that stuff is accumulating in the Atlantic when the winds are forecast to change to the South-West on Saturday and Sunday.
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all airports to re-open at 10pm, bizarrely!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8633597.stm

Dwarf Vader and Sod's Law meet again!


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davkt, an hour and 15 to wait! lol
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And now looks like the Vancouver flight is setting up for finals into Dublin

Yup, scrubbing off over 1000ft a min and down to 340kt, that one is heading into Dublin! Wonder if the other two have the go juice onboard to hold till LHR reopens in an hour!


Hhm, looks like that Vanvover might now be heading into AMS (or even back onto plan for LHR) as its now over north Wales at 25000ft


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altis wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8633597.stm

Dwarf Vader and Sod's Law meet again!


Can't help thinking the decision was made for the UK by the fact the entire of the rest of Europe seemed to have opened for business!
Hopefully back to plan A for the EoSB!
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Hopefully back to plan A for the EoSB!


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Dwarf Vader and Sod's Law meet again!


Blimey - if only BA had thought to pay Dwarf Vader to rearrange his travel arrangements this could have been over days ago!
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Let's hope it will all be back to normal by Saturday then.
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Let's hope it's actually *safe* to fly...
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jonm, of course it's safe, a politician says so Madeye-Smiley
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anarchicsaltire, quite... Neutral
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Let's hope it will all be back to normal by Saturday then.


Hope so, but I would have thought it could take a bit longer than that, given the huge backlog.
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pam w, my thoughts too, which is why I think we will still be driving.
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pam w, that's what I'm worried about too - getting to LGW at 6am on Saturday morning only to spend the next 12 hours in the airport...
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uk airspace to open from 2200 tonight, thought it will takes days if not weeks to get back to normal
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Well, if you've a confirmed ticket and the plane flys you are on it! Hopefully Swiss will be nice and efficient and have things back to normal by Sat
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Looks like at least 4 BA planes flying circuits till LHR opens again
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Make that 6!
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davkt, Laughing was just coming to post that, obviously they knew something long before we did. I dont understand why they dont just let them land now - instead of circling in all that Ash Shocked
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The look like predators stlking their prey! I particulalry like the one circling over and over again over Cornwall!
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sarep, NATS not giving anything away though - say will update before 10pm
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Looks like BAW84 is going to be the first one in. Heading for LHR now and descending fast.
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Shimmy Alcott, Can take some time to get an airport back open, after all need fire services, ATC, baggage handlers, engineers to turn aircraft around, cleaners, security etc. So it will take them some time to get into work and get everything flashed up again if it has been switched off for past few days.

But more importantly it looks like my girls will be winging their way home soon and I'll definetly get to be there for daughter #2's birth Very Happy


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davkt wrote:
Looks like at least 4 BA planes flying circuits till LHR opens again


That'll be the Ski Beat punters finally getting home from Easter week Laughing
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ozzie skier, Excellent. But is what I dont get is why there are all these planes waiting to land in London when it shouldn't have been open at least till tomorrow judging by the info they had on take off.
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Shimmy Alcott, just thinking that myself, but perhaps they have been diverted mid-flight to their original destination.
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altis, Laughing nearly there!
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Apparantly BA was telling passengers that they would head for Heathrow and hope for clearance, taking a last minute divert to an alternative airport if required (heard from a colleague with friends coming back from Shanghai as we speak - so it could be wrong)
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Shimmy Alcott, BA was probably playing a game of brinkmanship with the CAA/goverment. After all Wee Willie isn't known as being a shy retiring type when it comes to trying to get his own way. They possibly also got advance warning after all it would look pretty shabby if the first plane into LHR wasn't a BA flight.


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